(Completed!) Finally Tier 1! Ultra Series Multiversal to Higher Infinity Upgrade

[Peter1129]

Alright let's try and get this over with as soon as possible. Everybody's been pitching in and working on this for the past half a year or so digging through nearly 60 years worth of lore. Here in this thread I asked about the tiers for the cosmology and I think I have an idea on what tier the characters will be now post revision.

Cosmology​

So first of all let's begin with cosmology. No staff bothered looking at this cosmology thread so I think I'll just merge that thread with this one and try to get everything important for the majority of the verse evaluated before a potential Son Gohan vs Ultraman Zero Death Battle matchup gets announced due to how popular that matchup seems to be among fans. The 1-A stuff about the Real World will be on a separate thread since we still have yet to figure out the full extent of the different Real Worlds in the series as there's supposed to be countless of those with some transcending the other in the franchise.

Here’s the full cosmology blog

So to begin with the Ultra Series Multiverse is directly stated to be based off of Max Tegmark’s Four Levels of the Multiverse. Here’s a quick summary of the hierarchy from Max Tegmark’s official website. So to start off

Terminology​

In the Ultra Series, the term countless 無数 (Musū) is synonymous with the term infinite 無限 (Mugen). This is shown when the amount of universes are stated to be countless and infinite throughout the series. So whenever something is said to be countless that would mean it’s infinite. Example being the bubble universes. One time it was said to be countless 無数 (Musū) and another time it was said to be infinite 無限 (Mugen).

The catch all term for the various levels of the multiverse are commonly referred to as just parallel universe 並行宇宙 (Heikō uchū) or parallel world 並行世界 (Heikō sekai). Outside of this term other terms used to refer to the different levels of the universe are.

Dimension 次元 (Jigen) being the term used to refer to the level 2 universes in the series which are otherwise just called bubble universe 泡状宇宙 (Awa-jō uchū).

Space-time 時空 (Jikū) is the term used to refer to the normal level 1 universes which are otherwise just called universe 宇宙 (Uchū).

Timeline タイムライン and sometimes time axis 時間軸 (Jikan-jiku) is the term used to refer to the level 3 universes that have branched off from one of the infinite possibilities that existed for the existing universe.

Level I Multiverse​

To begin with, the universes in the series have been stated to be infinite in size many times. They were also stated to contain infinite time in Heisei Ultraseven. Each universe is also said to contain its own flow of time as mentioned on this thread a while back. And we’re told that space-time is also the wall/barrier that separates the universes from each other. As well as being stated that there are an countless/infinite number of these universes.

This is further supported by Max Tegmark’s various articles, where he says multiple times that in a Level 1 Multiverse space is infinite and there are an infinite number of universes in a Level 1 Multiverse. Here’s an excerpt for example

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

I. LEVEL I: REGIONS BEYOND OUR COSMIC HORIZON

Let us return to your distant twin. If space is infinite and the distribution of matter is sufficiently uniform on large scales, then even the most unlikely events must take place somewhere. In particular, there are infinitely many other inhabited planets, including not just one but infinitely many with people with the same appearance, name and memories as you. Indeed, there are infinitely many other regions the size of our observable universe, where every possible cosmic history is played out. This is the Level I multiverse.

Only difference being in the ultra series, the universes in the Type 1 Multiverse are also infinite in size and not just the size of the observable universe.

Examples of level 1 multiverse would be the worlds with the Earths that all the ultras from the Land of Light went to that aren't the Showa Earth such as the Earth that Ultraman Max went to. It's in the same dimension as the Showa Earth but in a different universe. This is proven as the ultras are capable of traveling to these universes without needing all the energy of the Land of Light like in Belial Galactic Empire.

4th Dimension​

The Ultra Series has a 4th spatial dimension that transcends the 3rd dimension (The universe) and has another dimension outside of the usual length, width, and depth (height) used in the 3rd dimension. It exists above the time axis of the universes as it was said in Ultraman Z Episode 15, that in order to sustain a giant universe, an existence like Bullton who is from the 4th dimension is needed to bear its irrationalities. Implying that the 4th dimension is in fact a part of the universe and is important in the sustenance of one. It is further shown and stated in the Mega Monster Battle Saga, that the 4th dimension is in fact still a part of the universe as Yapool who lives within the 4th dimension fears Reiblood reviving and controlling the whole universe once more. Thus each universe within the series has at least 4 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension.

Level II Multiverse​

In a level 2 multiverse, there are infinite bubble universes floating around in hyperspace with its own physical laws. As mentioned, in the terminology section, a bubble universe is also referred to as a dimension, and in the Ultraman Geed movie it was stated that a dimension contains countless (infinite) universes. The Tregear novel, also supports this as Tregear said there are many multiverses in the series with those multiverses being referred to as dimensions.

Max Tegmark’s theories which the cosmology was based off of mentions the same thing thus supporting the idea that a single bubble universe contains a level 1 multiverse.

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

II. LEVEL II: OTHER POST-INFLATION BUBBLES

If you felt that the Level I multiverse was large and hard to stomach, try imagining an infinite set of distinct ones (each symbolized by a bubble in Figure 1), some perhaps with different dimensionality and different physical constants. This is what is predicted by most currently popular models of inflation, and we will refer to it as the Level II multiverse. These other domains are more than infinitely far away in the sense that you would never get there even if you traveled at the speed of light forever. The reason is that the space between our Level I multiverse and its neighbors is still undergoing inflation, which keeps stretching it out and creating more volume faster than you can travel through it. In contrast, you could travel to an arbitrarily distant Level I universe if you were patient and the cosmic expansion decelerates.

An example of this is Another Space shown in Belial Galactic Empire, which required all the energy of the Land of Light at the time to travel beyond a single dimension into the hyperspace of the multiverse.

Possible 5th, 6th, and other possible higher dimensions​

So since the series' cosmology is directly stated to be based off I was wondering if we could use this info from Tegmark’s article.

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

B. What are Level II parallel universes like?

The prevailing view is that the physics we observe today is merely a low-energy limit of a much more general theory that manifests itself at extremely high temperatures. For example, this underlying fundamental theory may be 10-dimensional, supersymmetric and involving a grand unification of the four fundamental forces of nature. A common feature in such theories is that the potential energy of the field(s) relevant to inflation has many different minima (sometimes called “metastable vacuum states”), and ending up in different minima corresponds to different effective laws of physics for our low-energy world. For instance, all but three spatial dimensions could be curled up (“compactified”) on a tiny scale, resulting in an effectively three-dimensional space like ours, or fewer could curl up leaving a 5-dimensional space. Quantum fluctuations during inflation can therefore cause different post-inflation bubbles in the Level II multiverse to end up with different effective laws of physics in different bubbles — say different dimensionality or different types of elementary particles, like two rather than three generations of quarks

As shown here it was stated that the compactified dimensions can curl up into either a 3-dimensional space or 5-dimensional space. Which means that each bubble universe in Tegmark’s proposed theory for the bubble universes can potentially have up to two higher spatial dimensions outside of the 3rd dimension. And since the Ultra Series is already known to have a 4th dimension this may mean that the series has up to the 6th dimension.

I’m proposing this as it was mentioned before in the description for Yapool’s dimension that there are many dimensions. Thus indicating that there might be more than just a single higher dimensional space outside of the 4th dimension (Though it is also possible that this many different dimensions could also be referring to the lower dimensions like the 1st to 3rd dimension). However, in Ultraman X Episode 5, Daichi and Professor Gourman, one of the smartest beings in the multiverse, talk about the Super-Dimensional (Hyperspace) Theory (Otherwise known as the Superstring Theory) and jokes about him eating the 5th and 6th dimension indicating that higher dimensions beyond the 4th dimension does potentially exist.

Level III Multiverse​

The universes in the series are stated multiple times to be quantumly branching for every possibility in the series. So each individual universe can branch into infinite universes or in this case timelines. Once again matching what is stated in Tegmark’s articles

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

III. LEVEL III: THE MANY WORLDS OF QUANTUM PHYSICS

There may be a third type of parallel worlds that are not far away but in a sense right here. If the fundamental equations of physics are what mathematicians call unitary, as they so far appear to be, then the universe keeps branching into parallel universes as in the cartoon (Figure 5, bottom): whenever a quantum event appears to have a random outcome, all outcomes in fact occur, one in each branch. This is the Level III multiverse. Although more debated and controversial than Level I and Level II, we will see that, surprisingly, this level adds no new types of universes.

An example of this is the Heisei Ultraseven series which was directly stated to be a timeline that branched off from one of the infinite possibilities of the future.

Level IV Multiverse​

No point wasting time on this theoretical section as we haven’t seen an example of it yet.

Summary​

Each universe in the series is 5D (4 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension) with the 4th spatial dimension existing above the time axis. Each bubble universe on the other hand is at least 6D due to containing an uncountable infinite amount of these 5D universes and possibly contains two more extra spatial dimensions making them possibly 8D. Destroying the known multiverse including hyperspace would be 7D possibly 9D.

The Ultra Series Cosmology has a level 2 multiverse contains a level 1 multiverse in each of its bubble universes. For each universe in the level 1 multiverse there is a level 3 multiverse due to the universes in it quantum-branching infinitely for every possibility.

• Destroying the 3rd dimension universe = High 3-A
• Destroying the 4th dimension = Low 2-C
• Destroying a universe’s 4-dimensional space-time = At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-A
• Destroying the entire 5D universe (4-dimensional space-time + 4th dimension) = Low 1-C
• Destroying a bubble universe = 1-C (6D possibly 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse = 1-C (Infinite 6D possibly infinite 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse including hyperspace = 1-C (7D possibly 9D)

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Feats​

Juda​

Just bringing this up as how it’s the current feat that the High 3-As upscale from so I don’t think I’ll need to explain this again as it’s already on the profiles. But I am instead proposing that Juda gets a likely Low 2-C rating. As mentioned above the 4th dimension is in fact a part of the universe and Juda was originally going to destroy the universe by distorting space. And even during the Showa era the ultras were shown to be capable of affecting and destroying the 4th dimension. Like it's an outlier for the ultras as they clearly struggle against weaker characters but it does show that the characters are in fact capable of affecting higher dimension space with the abilities. So I propose that Juda's destroying universe feat gains a likely Low 2-C for likely having affected even the 4th dimension.

At least High 3-A, likely Low 2-C
(Had a discussion and Juda’s feat is still just High 3-A. But 4x High 3-A now as the LoL Universe contains multiple universe sized structure)

Edit: Some new info regarding the universe. The universe (or at least the Land of Light Universe) also contains a Mirror World which is also stated to be the 逆宇宙 (Gyaku uchū) Reverse Universe of the 3rd dimension (Universe) located in 異次元 (I jigen) Different Dimension (Yapool's Dimension located in the 4th dimension)). As mentioned above Yapool's dimension is none other than the 4th dimension, however, it turns out the Minus Universe, a universe that is described to be the 裏宇宙 (Ara uchū) Reverse (Inner) Universe (Kinda like Type Moon's 世界の裏側 (Sekai no uragawa) Reverse Side of the World), exists opposite to the actual universe, might exist in 4th dimension space as you can't attack it from the 3rd dimension and Ace was only able to travel there via the dimensional travel ability that the ultras use to travel to higher dimensional space. So destroying the entire universe like Juda also would've destroyed the Minus Universe, the reverse (inner) side of the universe, that possibly exist in 4th dimensional space as well as the Mirror World which is a mirror of the 3-dimensional universe that exist in 4-dimensional space. Hence making Juda's feat of destroying the Land of Light Universe likely a 2-C feat as he would've destroyed at least three universe sized realms (Mirror World, Minus Universe, Different Dimension [Which contains the prior two higher-dimensioned infinite universe]) in 4th dimensional space when destroying the entire Land of Light Universe. And this was what the tiering system said

Low 2-C: Universe level+​

Characters or objects whose power is uncountably infinitely greater than the prior tiers. That is to say, they can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that exceed lesser objects by an uncountably infinite margin. An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any 4-dimensional structure of a similar scope.

2-C: Low Multiverse level​

Characters or objects that can significantly affect, create and/or destroy small multiverses composed of two to a thousand separate space-time continuums, or an equivalent.

So destroying 4-dimensional universes should also count as Low 2-C. Therefore destroying at least three of them should be considered a 2-C feat.

At least High 3-A, likely 2-C

So yeah had a talk on discord and this is just higher High 3-A stuff not 2-C

Dark Zagi & Alien Bat’s Mothership/Hyper Zetton​

Dark Zagi is stated to be capable of destroying the universe and also scales above other universe busters, and and is the first character in the series stated to be capable of affecting space-time via sheer destructive power outside of already scaling above ultras like Jack who can destroy parts of the 4th dimension with their abilities.
We’re told that Alien Bat had destroyed a universe in the past but it’s unclear whether or not he destroyed the physical universe or also space-time. We are told and shown multiple times however that his mothership is capable of traveling through space and time and they also scale above Dark Zagi who as mentioned above can destroy the universe and affect space-time via sheer destructive power. And as mentioned above in the UCL storyline, we’re told that the barrier that surrounds the universe is considered space-time.

So I’m personally more inclined to believe that his mothership destroyed the universe on a space-time scale as the characters that are far weaker than him at this point in the story are fully capable of damaging space-time and even destroying higher dimension space. And it was said in the series that the time axis is made up of three points as shown in Gaia: past, present, and future. We’re also told that a single universe can quantum-branch into as many timelines in the future as there are possibilities of which there are an infinite amount. Since Alien Bat likely affected time this should at least mean he affected one snapshot of the timeline and only possibly the infinite branching timelines (possibilities).

So either Dark Zagi or Hyper Zetton which had merged with the mothership to enter its Imago form would scale to this. So I propose an at least Low 2-C, possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C tier for them as Zagi has statements of affecting space-time and is by scaling and statements capable of destroying the universe as well as above characters that can destroy higher dimensions with their powers implying that stronger characters can do the same with their abilities. And the weapon Alien Bat used to destroy a universe is shown to move through space and time and Hyper Zetton was repeatedly stated to be the strongest character in the entire franchise at the time of its appearance and thus stronger than Dark Zagi.

At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C

Super-Dimension Eradication Bomb​

Originally, this feat was treated as where Low 2-C began on this thread. But with all the new info we got for the cosmology this bomb should be upgraded to 1-C.

So in the Ultimate Force Zero novel, we are told that the bomb affected the Waterfall of Time in the past before its own creation showing that not only has it affected multiple points of the time axis but it also has a range that affected more than just a single universe. This is further supported as we found out that in the script for Ultraman Geed, it was said that King had merged with the bubble universe to stop the bomb’s effect. This is further proven as it was said that the bomb was destroying the entire Side Space which is the name of the bubble universe (dimension) and not the universe. And a bubble universe is a multiverse with an uncountable infinite amount of 5D universes. So the bomb should be 1-C for affecting the entire bubble universe.

1-C (1 Universe)

Diavolo​

Diavolo was outright shown to destroy multiple bubble universes (dimensions) one screen in the UCL storyline. So he should also scale to the new tier we found for the bubble universe due to the cosmology.

1-C (6 Universe)

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Scaling​

I already have the scaling blog prepared but just to summarize

• The current High 3-As become At least High 3-A, likely Low 2-C (Higher into High 3-A)
• Everybody that scales to Dark Zagi (600x Baseline High 3-A) or Hyper Zetton (10,800x Baseline High 3-A) becomes At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C
  • Dark Zagi has a statement of destroying the universe and scales above universe busters with his main form of attack being capable of affect space-time
  • Alien Bat has an actual universe destruction feat of unknown level (Could be physical or space-time)
• The current Low 2-Cs become 1 Universe 1-C
• The current 2-Cs become 6 Universe 1-C

I’ll also update the blog with the changes once the upgrades have been accepted

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Agree: 18? (TsukasayaEmmaDCD, EddisherSound, DragonZeroNova, WanderingGecko, mgtsti, Nicetoderp, Tonygameman, Harith0cell, Apex_Predator_GX, Sir_Ovens, Yamachiho, VeryGoodyToddler2 (All but the bubble universes?), DarkDragonMedeus, Duragoji123, Hjdjdhf, Mr.Cutlery, Elizhaa, Theglassman12)

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Following. Praying that this is will be accepted

 

[EddisherSound]

This is a historic moment, following

 

[WanderingGecko]

Following the thread.

 

[mgtsti]

This is perfectly logical to me

 

[Nicetoderp]

Finally, another Tokusatsu to tier 1.

Look good so far.

 

[Tonygameman]

Perfect and very acceptable, straight-forward agreement right here.

 

[Harith0cell]

Agree with op above

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Alright let's try and get this over with as soon as possible.

Level IV Multiverse​

Level 4 multiverse is referred to as the universes corresponding to all possible mathematical structures basically Low 1-A. So far we have not seen an example of a level 4 multiverse as the largest cosmology we’ve seen on screen so far is the level 2 multiverse. However, as it was stated that the worldview of this work (The Ultra Series) is based on Tegmark’s cosmological theory of the multiverse and we saw that the other three levels of the multiverse do in fact exist. This implies that the level 4 multiverse likely does exist as well just that we haven’t seen one just yet. So the full cosmology should include the level 4 multiverse and thus gain a likely Low 1-A rating if anyone were to claim they would destroy all of existence I guess. Since claiming to destroy the multiverse would only equate to them destroying the type 2 multiverse right now. But so far nobody has yet to destroy a level 2 multiverse let alone a level 4 one.

Summary​

• Destroying the 3rd dimension universe = High 3-A
• Destroying the 4th dimension = Low 2-C
• Destroying a universe’s 4-dimensional space-time = 2-A
• Destroying the entire 5D universe (4-dimensional space-time + 4th dimension) = Low 1-C
• Destroying a bubble universe = 1-C (6D possibly 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse = 1-C (Infinite 6D possibly infinite 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse along with hyperspace = 1-C (7D possibly 9D)
• Destroying all of existence = Likely Low 1-A

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Scaling​

I already have the scaling blog prepared but just to summarize

• The current High 3-As become At least High 3-A, likely Low 2-C
• Everybody that scales to Hyper Zetton (10,800x Baseline High 3-A) becomes Possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C
• The current Low 2-Cs become 1 Universe 1-C
• The current 2-Cs become 6 Universe 1-C

This seems good to me

I remember there was another Ultraman CRT proposing a 1-A upgrade months ago; do you know how it went?

Also, are you sure that no Ultraman character scales to Likely Low 1-A?

Finally, another Tokusatsu to tier 1.

Look good so far.

Which is the other one?

 

[The_Impress]

Damn this series has like, no staff reviewers.

I'll try and DM some people over discord ig

 

[Peter1129]

This seems good to me

I remember there was another Ultraman CRT proposing a 1-A upgrade months ago; do you know how it went?

I mentioned it on the op. That thread got cancelled since no staff was coming and we discovered more 1-A Real World stuff that needs to be looked over first. Like there’s like apparently an entire multiverse of 1-A real worlds with Eiji Tsuburaya the creator of the Ultra Series existing in multiple of those worlds. And something about a chicken and egg dilemma where it’s not sure if the Eiji Tsuburaya created the series or the series existed which gave Eiji Tsuburaya the idea to create the Ultra Series. Or how there’s this theoretical unknown energy that might’ve been the reason why Eiji had the idea of creating the Ultra Series.

Also, are you sure that no Ultraman character scales to Likely Low 1-A?

Nobody scales to it right now. The Level 4 Multiverse is just a theoretical thing and so far nobody has even been shown to destroy the entire Level 2 Multiverse let alone destroy a Level 4 Multiverse.

Which is the other one?

Super Sentai and Kamen Rider have tier 1s as well.

Damn this series has like, no staff reviewers.

I'll try and DM some people over discord ig

Yeah that would be very helpful thanks.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Nice work. Everything checks out to me.

Don't know about scaling tho.

 

[Peter1129]

Nice. One staff agreement on the upgrade.

The scaling should be fine. Unless there’s some info that I missed. But overall it should be good unless people disagree with the notion that the characters can get stronger over time and claim none of the characters get stronger throughout the course of the entire franchise.

 

[Yamachiho]

Looks really good.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I’ll take what I’ve read from the blog and OP at face value since I could only judge what I’ve read and how it was scaled.

.Possible 5th, 6th, and other possible higher dimensions
So since the series’s cosmology is directly stated to be based off I was wondering if we could use this info from Tegmark’s article.

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

B. What are Level II parallel universes like?

The prevailing view is that the physics we observe today is merely a low-energy limit of a much more general theory that manifests itself at extremely high temperatures. For example, this underlying fundamental theory may be 10-dimensional, supersymmetric and involving a grand unification of the four fundamental forces of nature. A common feature in such theories is that the potential energy of the field(s) relevant to inflation has many different minima (sometimes called “metastable vacuum states”), and ending up in different minima corresponds to different effective laws of physics for our low-energy world. For instance, all but three spatial dimensions could be curled up (“compactified”) on a tiny scale, resulting in an effectively three-dimensional space like ours, or fewer could curl up leaving a 5-dimensional space. Quantum fluctuations during inflation can therefore cause different post-inflation bubbles in the Level II multiverse to end up with different effective laws of physics in different bubbles — say different dimensionality or different types of elementary particles, like two rather than three generations of quarks

As shown here it was stated that the compactified dimensions can curl up into either a 3-dimensional space or 5-dimensional space. Which means that each bubble universe in Tegmark’s proposed theory for the bubble universes can potentially have up to two higher spatial dimensions outside of the 3rd dimension. And since the Ultra Series is already known to have a 4th dimension this may mean that the series has up to the 6th dimension.

Is it actually in the series? I know Tegmark heavily influences it but specifics of how it’s defined should be in the series as opposed to just using the name. So the higher dimensions that include 5D and more is highly speculative which you pointed out.

I’m proposing this as it was mentioned before in the description for Yapool’s dimension that there are many dimensions. Thus indicating that there might be more than just a single higher dimensional space outside of the 4th dimension (Though it is also possible that this many different dimensions could also be referring to the lower dimensions like the 1st to 3rd dimension). However, in Ultraman X Episode 5, Daichi and Professor Gourman, one of the smartest beings in the multiverse, talk about the Super-Dimensional (Hyperspace) Theory (Otherwise known as the Superstring Theory) and jokes about him eating the 5th and 6th dimension indicating that higher dimensions beyond the 4th dimension does potentially exist.

Eh, that barely makes the mark in my opinion. Though, I guess that's fine.

Level III Multiverse​

The universes in the series are stated multiple times to be quantumly branching for every possibility in the series. So each individual universe can branch into infinite universes or in this case timelines. Once again matching what is stated in Tegmark’s articles

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

III. LEVEL III: THE MANY WORLDS OF QUANTUM PHYSICS

There may be a third type of parallel worlds that are not far away but in a sense right here. If the fundamental equations of physics are what mathematicians call unitary, as they so far appear to be, then the universe keeps branching into parallel universes as in the cartoon (Figure 5, bottom): whenever a quantum event appears to have a random outcome, all outcomes in fact occur, one in each branch. This is the Level III multiverse. Although more debated and controversial than Level I and Level II, we will see that, surprisingly, this level adds no new types of universes.

An example of this is the Heisei Ultraseven series which was directly stated to be a timeline that branched off from one of the infinite possibilities of the future.

Level IV Multiverse​

Level 4 multiverse is referred to as the universes corresponding to all possible mathematical structures basically Low 1-A. So far we have not seen an example of a level 4 multiverse as the largest cosmology we’ve seen on screen so far is the level 2 multiverse. However, as it was stated that the worldview of this work (The Ultra Series) is based on Tegmark’s cosmological theory of the multiverse and we saw that the other three levels of the multiverse do in fact exist. This implies that the level 4 multiverse likely does exist as well just that we haven’t seen one just yet. So the full cosmology should include the level 4 multiverse and thus gain a likely Low 1-A rating if anyone were to claim they would destroy all of existence I guess. Since claiming to destroy the multiverse would only equate to them destroying the type 2 multiverse right now. But so far nobody has yet to destroy a level 2 multiverse let alone a level 4 one.

Summary​

Each universe in the series is 5D (4 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension) with the 4th spatial dimension existing above the time axis. Each bubble universe on the other hand is at least 6D due to containing an uncountable infinite amount of these 5D universes and possibly contains two more extra spatial dimensions making them possibly 8D. Destroying the known multiverse including hyperspace would be 7D possibly 9D.

The Ultra Series Cosmology potentially has a Level 4 multiverse and the current level 2 multiverse we see right now is potentially just one among it. The level 2 multiverse contains a level 1 multiverse in each of its bubble universes. For each universe in the level 1 multiverse there is a level 3 multiverse due to the universes in it quantum-branching infinitely for every possibility.

• Destroying the 3rd dimension universe = High 3-A
• Destroying the 4th dimension = Low 2-C
• Destroying a universe’s 4-dimensional space-time = 2-A
• Destroying the entire 5D universe (4-dimensional space-time + 4th dimension) = Low 1-C
• Destroying a bubble universe = 1-C (6D possibly 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse = 1-C (Infinite 6D possibly infinite 8D)
• Destroying the multiverse along with hyperspace = 1-C (7D possibly 9D)
• Destroying all of existence = Likely Low 1-A

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Feats​

Juda​

Just bringing this up as how it’s the current feat that the High 3-As upscale from so I don’t think I’ll need to explain this again as it’s already on the profiles. But I am instead proposing that Juda gets a likely Low 2-C rating. As mentioned above the 4th dimension is in fact a part of the universe and Juda was originally going to destroy the universe by distorting space. And even during the Showa era the ultras were shown to be capable of affecting and destroying the 4th dimension. Like it's an outlier for the ultras as they clearly struggle against weaker characters but it does show that the characters are in fact capable of affecting higher dimension space with the abilities. So I propose that Juda's destroying universe feat gains a likely Low 2-C for likely having affected even the 4th dimension.

At least High 3-A, likely Low 2-C

Alien Bat’s Mothership/Hyper Zetton​

We’re told that Alien Bat had destroyed a universe in the past but it’s unclear whether or not he destroyed the physical universe or also space-time. We are told and shown multiple times however that his mothership is capable of traveling through space and time and weaker characters in the series are capable of affecting space-time via sheer destructive power and even destroying parts of the 4th dimension with their abilities. And as mentioned above in the UCL storyline, we’re told that the barrier that surrounds the universe is considered space-time.

So I’m personally more inclined to believe that his mothership destroyed the universe on a space-time scale as the characters that are far weaker than him at this point in the story are fully capable of damaging space-time and even destroying higher dimension space. And it was said in the series that the time axis is made up of three points as shown in Gaia: past, present, and future. We’re also told that a single universe can quantum-branch into as many timelines in the future as there are possibilities of which there are an infinite amount. Since Alien Bat likely affected time this should include all the branching timelines. This means he likely scales to destroying a universe that can branch into infinite timelines. And this would scale to Hyper Zetton which had merged with the mothership to enter its Imago form. So I propose a possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C tier for them as the weapon used to destroy a universe is shown to move through space and time and are stronger than characters that can affect space-time and destroy higher dimensions with their powers implying that they potentially destroyed the entire universe including the higher dimensions along with space-time.

Possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C

Super-Dimension Eradication Bomb/King​

Originally, this feat was treated as where Low 2-C began on this thread. But with all the new info we got for the cosmology this bomb should be upgraded to 1-C.

So in the Ultimate Force Zero novel, we are told that the bomb affected the Waterfall of Time in the past before its own creation showing that not only has it affected multiple points of the time axis but it also has a range that affected more than just a single universe. This is further supported as we found out that in the script for Ultraman Geed, it was said that King had merged with the bubble universe to stop the bomb’s effect. This is further proven as it was said that the bomb was destroying the entire Side Space which is the name of the bubble universe (dimension) and not the universe. And a bubble universe is a multiverse with an uncountable infinite amount of 5D universes. So the bomb should be 1-C for affecting the entire bubble universe.

This is in association with Type III Multiverse, yes? If so then I do see that. However, I don't really account containing infinite 5D without properly being not applicable in size as 1-C. For one, the 5D thing is hypothetical and infinite 5D x infinite 5D is just more 5D. So that may be brought down to Low 1-C unless the whole 5D is proven yet that's only one problem solved.

1-C (1 Universe)

Diavolo​

Diavolo was outright shown to destroy multiple bubble universes (dimensions) one screen in the UCL storyline. So he should also scale to the new tier we found for the bubble universe due to the cosmology.

That could range from 2-A to Low 1-C(Again, that's entirely relying on the fact that 4D space-time is proven and the higher echelons of dimensions being more or less a sore subject).

1-C (6 Universe)

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Scaling​

I already have the scaling blog prepared but just to summarize

• The current High 3-As become At least High 3-A, likely Low 2-C
• Everybody that scales to Hyper Zetton (10,800x Baseline High 3-A) becomes Possibly 2-A, likely Low 1-C
• The current Low 2-Cs become 1 Universe 1-C
• The current 2-Cs become 6 Universe 1-C

I’ll also update the blog with the changes once the upgrades have been accepted

Hmmmmm……

 

[Peter1129]

I’ll take what I’ve read from the blog and OP at face value since I could only judge what I’ve read and how it was scaled.

Is it actually in the series? I know Tegmark heavily influences it but specifics of how it’s defined should be in the series as opposed to just using the name. So the higher dimensions that include 5D and more is highly speculative which you pointed out.

Eh, that barely makes the mark in my opinion. Though, I guess that's fine.

Yeah that’s kinda what I wanted to know for the series. Like we’re told the series is based on Tegmark’s multiverse articles but I’m not exactly sure if we could use it. Hence why I brought this up on this thread wanting to see others’ opinions regarding this.

This is in association with Type III Multiverse, yes? If so then I do see that. However, I don't really account containing infinite 5D without properly being not applicable in size as 1-C. For one, the 5D thing is hypothetical and infinite 5D x infinite 5D is just more 5D. So that may be brought down to Low 1-C unless the whole 5D is proven yet that's only one problem that needs to be solved.

Thought this was uncountable infinity? Like that’s what everybody on the Q&A thread told me. Infinite universes with each universe quantum branching infinitely for the tiniest possibility such as a person choosing to drink a grape juice in one world while orange juice in another and than they decide to drink or not drink it right after buying it thus making this go on and on making it uncountable infinite. Like this is what the tiering system said.

1-C: Complex Multiverse level​

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are two to five uncountably infinite levels above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^6 to R^9 (6 to 9-dimensional real coordinate space).

Also the 5D is because the universe is confirmed to have 4 Spatial Dimensions + 1 Temporal Dimension making it 5D. The possible 5th and 6th dimensional space has nothing to do with this.

That could range from 2-A to Low 1-C(Again, that's entirely relying on the fact that 4D space-time is proven and the higher echelons of dimensions being more or less a sore subject).

Hmmmmm……

It’s already accepted that they are destroying space-time on a previous thread but since you asked about it. We’re told in the UCL storyline that the characters are in fact damaging space-time across various dimension throughout the multiverse as a side effect of them fighting within a single bubble universe.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Thought this was uncountable infinity? Like that’s what everybody on the Q&A thread told me. Infinite universes with each universe quantum branching infinitely for the tiniest possibility such as a person choosing to drink a grape juice in one world while orange juice in another and than they decide to drink or not drink it right after buying it thus making this go on and on making it uncountable infinite. Like this is what the tiering system said.

1-C: Complex Multiverse level​

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are two to five uncountably infinite levels above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^6 to R^9 (6 to 9-dimensional real coordinate space).

At face value without further context having a universe branch off quantumly with infinite 4D is Low 1-C especially since all the timelines occupy only the universe that can house any amount of those whether countable or uncountable.

However, that's where we have to place it as. As I mentioned the 5D thing is speculative, if it were proven true then I do see the argument for 1-C.

It’s already accepted that they are destroying space-time on a previous thread but since you asked about it. We’re told in the UCL storyline that the characters are in fact damaging space-time across various dimension throughout the multiverse as a side effect of them fighting within a single bubble universe.

Yeah, that could be Low 1-C. 1-C shout seems more like the higher end.

 

[Peter1129]

At face value without further context having a universe branch off quantumly with infinite 4D is Low 1-C especially since all the timelines occupy only the universe that can house any amount of those whether countable or uncountable.

However, that's where we have to place it as. As I mentioned the 5D thing is speculative, if it were proven true then I do see the argument for 1-C.

Yeah, that's could be Low 1-C. 1-C shout seems more like the higher end.

No uhh I think we have some misunderstanding here. A normal universe in fiction was always 4D (3 Spatial + 1 Temporal Dimension). So if just that is branching like you said that would be Low 1-C already. But the Ultra Series universe has a 4th Spatial Dimension that transcends the lower dimensions so it’s 5D (Infinitely branching infinite amounts of 4D universes) + 1D (4th Spatial Dimension) making destroying a bubble universe 6D at minimum.

The stuff regarding the 5th and 6th dimension has nothing to do with the 1-C tier they currently have.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

No uhh I think we have some misunderstanding here. A normal universe in fiction was always 4D (3 Spatial + 1 Temporal Dimension). So if just that is branching like you said that would be Low 1-C already. But the Ultra Series universe has a 4th Spatial Dimension that transcends the lower dimensions so it’s 5D (Infinitely branching infinite amounts of 4D universes) + 1D making destroying a bubble universe 6D.

In that it is 4D by transcending the 3D Universe then itself still remains 4D. I don't know where the jump to 5D is coming from.

Also, I don't get your logic about adding an extra higher dimension when all it is just bigger expanse of 5D.

 

[Peter1129]

In that it is 4D by transcending the 3D Universe then itself still remains 4D. I don't know where the jump to 5D is coming from.

Also, I don't get your logic about adding an extra higher dimension when all it is just just bigger expanse of 5D.

Because the 4th dimension transcends the 3rd dimension and exist above the time axis and is likely the size of the entire type 1 multiverse or that each universe has a 4th dimension the size of the infinite universe. As Yapool who lives in the 4th dimension can travel between different universes in the type 1 multiverse which all have its own space-time using his dimension which exist in 4th dimension space. And based on the Bullton lore in Ultraman Z, the 4th dimension is needed for a universe to even be created as the phrase they used in Japanese was Bullton is needed for a giant universe to 成立 (Seiritsu) come into existence. Implying that the 4th dimension exist above 4-dimensional space-time itself. Point is the 4th dimension doesn't just transcend the 3rd dimension but is also above the time axis.

I'm just going off by what I'm told by the users in the Q&A thread. They said this was 6D (4 Spatial Dimensions + 1 Temporal Dimension + Infinite branching) because of the info that I gave so that's what I decided to go with in the CRT. So you're gonna have to ask them why this wouldn't be 1-C I guess.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I'm just going off by what I'm told by the users in the Q&A thread. They said this was 6D (4 Spatial Dimensions + 1 Temporal Dimension + Infinite branching) because of the info that I gave so that's what I decided to go with in the CRT. So you're gonna have to ask them why this wouldn't be 1-C I guess.

Infinite branching timelines from a source that's 5-D according to you, would just be 5-D.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

The thing defines it as encompassing all mathematical structures and thing that defines it is part of the series. Seems pretty explicit and beyond a name drop to me.

The argument wasn't for Type IV Multiverse which the section for it is also empty in the blog.

 

[Peter1129]

Infinite branching timelines from a source that's 5-D according to you, would just be 5-D.

Ugh this is why I hate all these higher dimension mumble jumbo tiers. So let's try and get all the infos out lined out

So we're told that a single universe is 5D as many sources imply the 4th dimension is part of the universe which means a single universe is 5D (4 Spatial + 1 Temporal Dimension). There are an infinite number of these universes within the bubble universe. Each and every one of these 5D universes can also branch off and become infinite 5D universes (timelines). Thus making a single bubble universe 6D.

That's what I've been told how the tier would work from the Q&A thread. And what you're trying to say is that infinitely branching 5D is not 6D correct? Just making sure did you already factor in the infinite number of 5D universes that already existed before the branching? Or is there just something I'm missing here that's making the tier lower than I was told? Like this was what I was told on the Q&A thread by TheGreatJedi

if a single bubble contains a branching multiverse that branches for every event a little or big to the quantum level (that seems to hint at including quantum states)
Then each of that multiverse qualifies for the low 1-C Uncountable universe of MWI theory. via Non-Collapsing Wave Function

That means each bubble is 5D

But if we include that additional 4th spatial axis then it will be 6D
(though elaboration on how this 4th-dimensional space functions in response to the Temporal dimension {Whether it exists higher or lower than it} is important to determine the priority of Axis)

If the 4th spatial axis exists higher
then each Bubble/Universe destroyed is 6D (Complex Single universe)
If it is lower. It is 6D (Complex infinite multiverse)

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

So we're told that a single universe is 5D as many sources imply the 4th dimension is part of the universe which means a single universe is 5D (4 Spatial + 1 Temporal Dimension). There are an infinite number of these universes within the bubble universe. Each and every one of these 5D universes can also branch off and become infinite 5D universes (timelines). Thus making a single bubble universe 6D.

My logic aligns with making sure that it truly was 5D and not anything lower. Is there a mention of infinite universes within a bubble Universe? It should be more in line with the universe being a bubble universe from which diverges into countless timelines which is still 5D unless you prove your case about the bubble universe.

That's what I've been told how the tier would work from the Q&A thread. And what you're trying to say is that infinitely branching 5D is not 6D correct? Just making sure did you already factor in the infinite number of 5D universes that already existed before the branching? Or is there just something I'm missing here that's making the tier lower than I was told? Like this was what I was told on the Q&A thread by TheGreatJedi

Where is the notion of your claim that the 5D universes were already branching? Instead of the 5D Universe being the branching point.

 

[Peter1129]

My logic aligns with making sure that it truly was 5D and not anything lower. Is there a mention of infinite universes within a bubble Universe? It should be more in line with the universe being a bubble universe from which diverges into countless timelines which is still 5D unless you prove your case about the bubble universe.

Where is the notion of your claim that the 5D universes were already branching? Instead of the 5D Universe being the branching point.

Did. Did you really not read the whole thing.

Level II Multiverse​

In a level 2 multiverse, there are infinite bubble universes floating around in hyperspace with its own physical laws. As mentioned, in the terminology section, a bubble universe is also referred to as a dimension, and in the Ultraman Geed movie it was stated that a dimension contains countless (infinite) universes. The Tregear novel, also supports this as Tregear said there are many multiverses in the series with those multiverses being referred to as dimensions.

Max Tegmark’s theories which the cosmology was based off of mentions the same thing thus supporting the idea that a single bubble universe contains a level 1 multiverse.

Spoiler: The Multiverse Hierarchy

II. LEVEL II: OTHER POST-INFLATION BUBBLES

If you felt that the Level I multiverse was large and hard to stomach, try imagining an infinite set of distinct ones (each symbolized by a bubble in Figure 1), some perhaps with different dimensionality and different physical constants. This is what is predicted by most currently popular models of inflation, and we will refer to it as the Level II multiverse. These other domains are more than infinitely far away in the sense that you would never get there even if you traveled at the speed of light forever. The reason is that the space between our Level I multiverse and its neighbors is still undergoing inflation, which keeps stretching it out and creating more volume faster than you can travel through it. In contrast, you could travel to an arbitrarily distant Level I universe if you were patient and the cosmic expansion decelerates.

An example of this is Another Space shown in Belial Galactic Empire, which required all the energy of the Land of Light at the time to travel beyond a single dimension into the hyperspace of the multiverse.

Like I thought this was pretty clear cut already. In Geed, they said other dimensions have countless universes. And we’re told multiple times throughout the series that a dimension is referring to a bubble universe. Tregear’s novel even says that there’s multiple multiverses and says he’ll revive in another dimension. A single bubble universe contains a level 1 multiverse. And each and every one of these universes are stated to be branching if you just look at the blog under type 3 multiverse. And as I said above past, present, future exists all at once in the Ultra Series.

"It's a bit complicated," Yuu began, "but in the realm of quantum mechanics, time doesn’t simply flow from past to present to future. Under certain special conditions, they can coexist and influence each other simultaneously."

And when they affect time they can affect even the timeline of the past before its creation like the super-dimension eradication bomb.

"At that time, Zero completed the trial given by the guardian and returned to the waterfall. The guardian said to Zero:

“Since you have this power now, I have a favor to ask you.”

“A favor…?”

“I want you to bring my "body" back.”

According to the Guardian of Time’s explanation, not long ago (but from the timeline where Zero is currently in, it seems to be in the very distant future) someone triggered an explosion large enough to wipe out space-time, and the Waterfall of Time was also affected by the strong impact.

Fortunately, the collapse of the universe was stopped midway. However, the impact caused the Guardian of Time’s body to be separated from his spirit. His physical body was blown away to an unknown era, and there is no trace of it."

And we know that there are multiple universes in a single dimension as back then in the Showa Era before Max Tegmark’s Multiverse theory even existed we were shown that the ultras can travel to different universes with its own space-time continuum. And yet on the multiverse map none of those universes that the M78 Ultras went to were considered a dimension (bubble universe). Max for example is only listed as having gone to his own Land of Light Dimension as well as Ginga and X’s dimension. His own universe where only he and Xenon went to was not listed among the different dimension here. If it was it would’ve listed the two of them with a separate description like they did with Tiga and Dyna.

We know for a fact that this isn’t referring to a branching timeline/universe as none of the ultras in the series capable of traveling to a different timeline and timeline is what they call the level 3 multiverses.

The era of Ultra series The world depicted in the Showa Ultra series and "Ultraman Mebius" has shown a connection to the "Mega Monster Battle" world. Of course, "Ultraseven" is also branched and connected to the Heisei Seven series, so be aware that this timeline is only one of the infinite "possibilities of Future".

The only one who can travel to different timelines is Absolute Tartarus via his pocket dimension Narak. And maybe Zero in his Ultimate Shining form as it’s implied that he can do the same as Tartarus. But that’s in present day when he actually has time manipulation and time travel. Back then none of the ultras had these abilities.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Did. Did you really not read the whole thing.

Like I thought this was pretty clear cut already. In Geed, they said other dimensions have countless universes. And we’re told multiple times throughout the series that a dimension is referring to a bubble universe. Tregear’s novel even says that there’s multiple multiverses and says he’ll revive in another dimension. A single bubble universe contains a level 1 multiverse. And each and every one of these universes are stated to be branching if you just look at the blog under type 3 multiverse. And as I said above past, present, future exists all at once in the Ultra Series.

And when they affect time they can affect even the timeline of the past before its creation like the super-dimension eradication bomb.

And we know that there are multiple universes in a single dimension as back then in the Showa Era before Max Tegmark’s Multiverse theory even existed we were shown that the ultras can travel to different universes with its own space-time continuum. And yet on the multiverse map none of those universes that the M78 Ultras went to were considered a dimension (bubble universe). Max for example is only listed as having gone to his own Land of Light Dimension as well as Ginga and X’s dimension. His own universe where only he and Xenon went to was not listed among the different dimension here. If it was it would’ve listed the two of them with a separate description like they did with Tiga and Dyna.

We know for a fact that this isn’t referring to a branching timeline/universe as none of the ultras in the series capable of traveling to a different timeline and timeline is what they call the level 3 multiverses.

The many world interpretation has leeway into bringing about that out but I highly doubt that the Type II Multiverse definition aligns with “bubble universe counting infinite sets of worlds/universes” in conjunction with the context of the verse. So in other words, it would be more closely linked to Low 1-C as a whole at the point, but I can see where the 1-C aspects come in that the space can be filled with countable and uncountable infinite while existing in a higher space beyond any measurement from the lower topology of the dimensional spectrum.

While I can see that as the case for 1-C, the specific context to invoke 1-C isn't met when only complying with infinite 5D space unless all of it is meant to directly correlate to a higher space that can accumulate any amount of 5D spaces while occupying a higher dimensional state. As far as I'm aware you haven't really said much about the case of how 1-C would be met in that specific criteria.

 

[Peter1129]

The many world interpretation has leeway into bringing about that out but I highly doubt that the Type II Multiverse definition aligns with “bubble universe counting infinite sets of worlds/universes” in conjunction with the context of the verse. So in other words, it would be more closely linked to Low 1-C as a whole at the point, but I can see where the 1-C aspects come in that the space can be filled with countable and uncountable infinite while existing in a higher space beyond any measurement from the lower topology of the dimensional spectrum.

While I can see that as the case for 1-C, the specific context to invoke 1-C isn't met when only complying with infinite 5D space unless all of it is meant to directly correlate to a higher space that can accumulate any amount of 5D spaces while occupying a higher dimensional state. As far as I'm aware you haven't really said much about the case of how 1-C would be met in that specific criteria.

I have no clue what half the stuff here you said means as I have no clue how all those higher dimension stuff work as I’m only bringing up the stuff I heard about from others. So I’ll just stop here as I already have given all the information I know on the different multiverse levels. Just gonna let somebody else who’s more knowledgeable on this speak. Low 1-C was what I originally expected from a bubble universe anyways. I’m only talking about it being 1-C as everybody has been telling me it’s 1-C based on the information given.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I have no clue what half the stuff here you said means as I have no clue how all those higher dimension stuff work as I’m only bringing up the stuff I heard about from others. So I’ll just stop here as I already have given all the information I know on the different multiverse levels. Just gonna let somebody else who’s more knowledgeable on this speak.

Well, you really just need to convince three mods for this thread evaluation to continue.

 

[Peter1129]

Well, you really just need to convince three mods for this thread evaluation to continue.

Well duh I know that. I’m saying I’ll just let others who are more knowledgeable regarding all these stuff go on about it. I’m only in charge of posting the thread any giving out the basic information stated in the series. I’m no expert at all these higher dimension stuff and what counts as what.

I just know that I showed this to people and they said the bubble universe is 1-C. It’s as simple as that. I myself originally only expected the bubble universe to be around like Low 1-C like you said. But since people have been telling me this is 1-C that’s what I went with in this CRT.

If in the end it turns out it’s just Low 1-C then cool. Low 1-C is a better tier than 1-C anyways. There’s honestly much more matches you can make in that tier. And either way they’ll still end up in tier 1 so there’s no need for me to change the title of the CRT.

So for now I’m just gonna wait and see what other users and staffs say about all this.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Damn us DB scalers better lock in or else Gohan finna lose his death battle

 

[Peter1129]

Early bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[Peter1129]

Oh wow thanks DDM. Huh didn’t think this thread would get approval from staff this quickly. Really thought this was gonna go on for months and not have any staff come check it out like the previous one.

But even if everybody agrees I guess I’ll still wait a bit and see as VeryGoofyToddler2 does disagree with only the bubble universe tiering being a tad bit higher than what he thinks it’s supposed to be.

 

[Shiroiyo]

I'm curious about the Low 1-A rating, I went to open the blog and came across this, I re-read the thread and it seems that L1-A is coming from Type 4 Multiverse, but there are no scans and examples of it existing in the verse?

 

[Peter1129]

About the type 4 multiverse it’s because of this

"Multiverse" refers to...

The worldview of this work is based on the latest cosmological theory of the multiverse — the idea that countless parallel universes exist. These parallel universes are divided into levels:「Level 1」— Universes identical to ours, existing beyond the observable boundaries of our universe,「Level 2」— An infinite number of bubble-like universes,「Level 3」— Quantum-level branching, where parallel versions of oneself exist simultaneously in neighboring realities,「Level 4」— Universes corresponding to all possible mathematical structures. In this work, Another Space corresponds to Level 2. Incidentally, if the alternate worlds depicted in traditional series like『Ultra Galaxy Mega Monster Battle Saga』are classified as Level 3, then there would be no contradiction between the two concepts.

I was assuming that since it’s specifically stated that the worldview of the franchise is based on Tegmark’s Multiverse theory this means all four levels likely exist in the franchise. Since there’s evidence showing that the first three levels do in fact exists in the franchise I thought that it’s likely that the level 4 exist as well just that we haven’t seen it yet. Hence the full cosmology gets a likely Low 1-A even if we haven’t seen a Type 4 Multiverse yet.

Though I could see why people find this skeptical. But it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things as nothing scales to the entire type 2 multiverse let alone the theoretical type 4 multiverse. So if people disagree with the full cosmology potentially containing a type 4 multiverse than I can just remove that section from this CRT.

 

[Peter1129]

Bump

 

[Duragoji123]

I agree with the thread. Welcome to the Tier 1 Tokusatsu Club, Ultra Series

Not shaping up to be a good day for Gohan

 

[Peter1129]

If this weren’t a tier 1 CRT we would’ve been able to change the profiles already

But anyway thanks for the vote. Just need to wait for one more staff to come evaluate this and then 24 or 48 hours of grace.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

But even if everybody agrees I guess I’ll still wait a bit and see as VeryGoofyToddler2 does disagree with only the bubble universe tiering being a tad bit higher than what he thinks it’s supposed to be.

CRT requires mod evaluation. So it doesn't matter what I say in the end(I’m saying this because I'm not likely to change my mind nor do I find it necessary as long as you convince the others).

 

[The_Impress]

CRT requires mod evaluation. So it doesn't matter what I say in the end.

I mean not entirely, if you think the revision is actually bad and you think staff haven't acknowledged your posts when approving a CRT you can tag them and ask them to at least consider your rebuttals :v

And like, if there is a disagreement ongoing that isn't addressed in front of an admin and acknowledged I'd say the thread is very much continuing.

It's just that if they say they have read your points and still lean towards the OP, it ends there.