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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Dark_Soul20189 said:
This CRT is not in English
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sea of thieves cosmology and some character additions

Before I start I would like to mention that in Sea of Thieves we are presented with quite a few cosmological factors and information about the universe in a vague way and the amount of this information is quite small, so it might be a short start and this is my first cosmology CRT, so I am very...
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Uh it is? It's shown as English language on my phone
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
This CRT is not in English
vsbattles.com

sea of thieves cosmology and some character additions

Before I start I would like to mention that in Sea of Thieves we are presented with quite a few cosmological factors and information about the universe in a vague way and the amount of this information is quite small, so it might be a short start and this is my first cosmology CRT, so I am very...
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What're you talking about? All I see is English.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Apparently he posted it in whatever language that is, then edited it to English a bit after my report.
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the best course of action in this case would be asking the one who posted the thread to change into English first, if they didn't, refused to change then we can report. We always advise, warn first before going for any reports, punishments, etc.....
 
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Dragon Ball

For detailed information about this series from the Dragon Ball Wiki, you can click here. Dragon Ball (Japanese: ドラゴンボール, Hepburn: Doragon Bōru) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Akira Toriyama. Originally serialized in Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump from...
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A page added without the discussion finishing about the very important canon element being done with in this thread, basically a very important part of the page links a blog with elements of a continuity not accepted to be canon to the DBS Anime, and not even proposed, such as noted by @LordTracer in the thread, who asked for proof of said continuity being canon for the page to be posted, @Nierre(would link the messages directly, but i am currently on mobile) also asking for the said proof, OP didn't waited for staff evaluations for said elements to be canon and applied the thread before discussion on it was finished
 
Omegabronic said:
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Dragon Ball

For detailed information about this series from the Dragon Ball Wiki, you can click here. Dragon Ball (Japanese: ドラゴンボール, Hepburn: Doragon Bōru) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Akira Toriyama. Originally serialized in Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump from...
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A page added without the discussion finishing about the very important canon element being done with in this thread, basically a very important part of the page links a blog with elements of a continuity not accepted to be canon to the DBS Anime, and not even proposed, such as noted by @LordTracer in the thread, who asked for proof of said continuity being canon for the page to be posted, @Nierre(would link the messages directly, but i am currently on mobile) also asking for the said proof, OP didn't waited for staff evaluations for said elements to be canon and applied the thread before discussion on it was finished
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Ok I need to clear this of the blog was applied on 3rd March 3:25 pm before lord tracer raised concerns over it and the thread was accepted by mods and time limit for crt was finished so no the op didn't apply it mid contentions
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Ok I need to clear this of the blog was applied on 3rd March 3:25 pm before lord tracer raised concerns over it and the thread was accepted by mods and time limit for crt was finished so no the op didn't apply it mid contentions
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Not really(unless the wiki's time and the forum's is different? Never know how to exactly count the time in here with my time scale)
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Smooth DBS stuff

Not much to say about this blog, but that it has stuff for the cosmology of DBS.
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Even if it was, it was still applied with non accepted information as part of it that was being contested on the thread, and then thread was closed without said concerns brought up by Staff being acknowledged, still need to be reversed and the thread re-opened
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
The OP has asked me to close it.
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Yeah i know, that's also part of the report

DarkDragonMedeus said:
And it was accepted by 4 staff members and no staff members had contentions to my knowledge. And there basically was just too much circular arguments throughout the rest of it.
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I just said how @LordTracer and @Nierre showed contentions with it tho?

Also no staff agreed with OG DB Anime being canon to DBKai as tgat wasn't even in the OP as a proposition, LordTracer poiting that out even, so the blog factually had non accepted stuff in contention in the thread by 2 staff that it sneakly passed... that is a problem
 
Omegabronic said:
Yeah i know, that's also part of the report


I just said how @LordTracer and @Nierre showed contentions with it tho?

Also no staff agreed with OG DB Anime being canon to DBKai as tgat wasn't even in the OP as a proposition, LordTracer poiting that out even, so the blog factually had non accepted stuff in contention in the thread by 2 staff that it sneakly passed... that is a problem
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I suppose I overlooked that, and yeah. DBZ Kai in general has always been agreed to be a secondary canon to the primary canon in general; such as cinematic timeframes for feats faithful to the OG manga are valid. And stuff exclusively shown in Kai, but Manga neither contradicts nor reveals have always had some degree of dubious canon. But DBS Anime does indeed showcase more obvious examples. Which the only real contention was Vice Shout is present in Kai iirc, but possible outlier status for the DBS version of Super Buu.

For the OG Dragon Ball stuff. I did not realize that, and yeah. Even some of the Anime Filler stuff seem contradictory; such as Shula being "King of the Demon World" when the canonical status belongs to Dabura. And I still think Kai is more so intended to be a sequel to the manga rather than the Anime as far as OG saga is concerned. But Antvasima pinged them above, so hopefully there could be resolve.
 
Omegabronic is correct, I had asked the OP to send the evidences in the thread because as it stood I disagreed with the DB Anime being canon to DBKai. Although I hadn't explicitly expressed that in the thread, the fact of the matter was that the OP was trying to get it passed when it was never accepted in any other thread prior, which Omega and Tracer pointed out.

I didn't even get to read fully the evidences of the thread the OP sent in the thread itself because I've been busy with exams just to find it was already locked despite Omega still arguing the topic within the thread. So the changes should be reverted until that problem is resolved.
 
Antvasima said:
@Nierre @LordTracer @Vietthai96
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Hmm, well, i was just asked to applies the thread, since it passed the grace period, and everyone including staffs agreed with the blog and only asking to put references on it since initially the blog lack references. look like @LordTracer concerns was raised after the grace period and me apply the thread

Anyway, re-reading the thread, @LordTracer concerns is Time Room thing which belong to DB OG Anime, then it is later devolved into debate about canonicity between DB Anime, DB Manga and DBZ Kai. @Nierre asked for proofs on why DB OG Anime canon to Kai and @TheGodOfICE777 replied, though i didn't see response, probably he didn't have time before it was locked

Since this isn't Content Revision Thread, i will just make it short that @DarkDragonMedeus is correct that currently, the canonicity status between Kai and DB OG Anime, DB OG Manga is ambiguity. I'm not exactly agree or disagree about these topic

Anyway, i don't think we need to "revert" the changes, since the "changes" is actually a creation of a new page, unless we delete it, and then recreate it when we reach a new conclusion, that kinda redundant and waste of energy, we can remove the DB OG Anime parts on the page and then either re-open the CRT to continuing the discussion or make a new CRT to discuss the canonicity. If everyone have no problem with me removing the DB OG Anime parts on the page, notifies me so i will do my part
 
Yes, as Nierre mentioned, the OP was using material from the original DB anime when that was never accepted as being useable, and the page was applied before that could be resolved.
Vietthai96 said:
we can remove the DB OG Anime parts on the page and then make a new CRT to discuss the canonicity.
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I think this would be the best solution.
 
Vietthai96 said:
Hmm, well, i was just asked to applies the thread, since it passed the grace period, and everyone including staffs agreed with the blog and only asking to put references on it since initially the blog lack references. look like @LordTracer concerns was raised after the grace period and me apply the thread

Anyway, re-reading the thread, @LordTracer concerns is Time Room thing which belong to DB OG Anime, then it is later devolved into debate about canonicity between DB Anime, DB Manga and DBZ Kai. @Nierre asked for proofs on why DB OG Anime canon to Kai and @TheGodOfICE777 replied, though i didn't see response, probably he didn't have time before it was locked

Since this isn't Content Revision Thread, i will just make it short that @DarkDragonMedeus is correct that currently, the canonicity status between Kai and DB OG Anime, DB OG Manga is ambiguity. I'm not exactly agree or disagree about these topic

Anyway, i don't think we need to "revert" the changes, since the "changes" is actually a creation of a new page, unless we delete it, and then recreate it when we reach a new conclusion, that kinda redundant and waste of energy, we can remove the DB OG Anime parts on the page and then either re-open the CRT to continuing the discussion or make a new CRT to discuss the canonicity. If everyone have no problem with me removing the DB OG Anime parts on the page, notifies me so i will do my part
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I Believe re-openning the thread would be best, i agree with your solution
 
Vietthai96 said:
Anyway, i don't think we need to "revert" the changes, since the "changes" is actually a creation of a new page, unless we delete it, and then recreate it when we reach a new conclusion, that kinda redundant and waste of energy, we can remove the DB OG Anime parts on the page and then either re-open the CRT to continuing the discussion or make a new CRT to discuss the canonicity. If everyone have no problem with me removing the DB OG Anime parts on the page, notifies me so i will do my part
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Yeah it'd be best to remove them for now, and if the OP wants to, they can make a new CRT proving that the DB Anime is canon to Kai to then readd to the page.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
I suppose I overlooked that, and yeah. DBZ Kai in general has always been agreed to be a secondary canon to the primary canon in general; such as cinematic timeframes for feats faithful to the OG manga are valid. And stuff exclusively shown in Kai, but Manga neither contradicts nor reveals have always had some degree of dubious canon. But DBS Anime does indeed showcase more obvious examples. Which the only real contention was Vice Shout is present in Kai iirc, but possible outlier status for the DBS version of Super Buu.

For the OG Dragon Ball stuff. I did not realize that, and yeah. Even some of the Anime Filler stuff seem contradictory; such as Shula being "King of the Demon World" when the canonical status belongs to Dabura. And I still think Kai is more so intended to be a sequel to the manga rather than the Anime as far as OG saga is concerned. But Antvasima pinged them above, so hopefully there could be resolve.
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My apologies for clogging the thread, but i'd like to state something.

If the decision is to revert and properly resolve this, I'm fine with it. If i may though, blaming the OP for something that was fundamentally a staff oversight is dishonest. The accusations of ‘sneaking things in’ were baseless from the start, and it’s about time we dropped that narrative. Words have meanings, let's not forget that.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
My apologies for clogging the thread, but i'd like to state something.

If the decision is to revert and properly resolve this, I'm fine with it. If i may though, blaming the OP for something that was fundamentally a staff oversight is dishonest, which is a point that was pushed upon. The accusations of ‘sneaking things in’ were baseless from the start, and it’s about time we dropped that narrative.
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It was objectively added into the Cosmology Blog despite it not being accepted in any CRT. I don't think, however, it was malicious on the OPs part because he seemed to genuinely think that it was accepted in another CRT (when it wasn't). I didn't mean to make my comment accusatory though, if it was read that way.
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
My apologies for clogging the thread, but i'd like to state something.

If the decision is to revert and properly resolve this, I'm fine with it. If i may though, blaming the OP for something that was fundamentally a staff oversight is dishonest, which is a point that was pushed upon. The accusations of ‘sneaking things in’ were baseless from the start, and it’s about time we dropped that narrative. Words have meanings, let's not forget that.
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I may have worded myself badly, i never intented to accuse anyone of anything, it was 2 AM when i wrotte the report... and i was in a bad state of mind at the time

I apologize to @Vietthai96 and @TheGodOfICE777 , i should have stopped and think of the wording better... i created a narrarive in an irresponsible manner, that shouldn't happen
 
Nierre said:
It was objectively added into the Cosmology Blog despite it not being accepted in any CRT. I don't think, however, it was malicious on the OPs part because he seemed to genuinely think that it was accepted in another CRT (when it wasn't). I didn't mean to make my comment accusatory though, if it was read that way.
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Just to clarify, my comment wasn’t directed at you but at the person who reported this, since it’s not the first time they’ve pulled some stunts like this, using "heavy" words, I'd just like for them to be more careful about what they say. No hard feelings towards you or LordTracer, or anyone else.

EDIT : didn't see the comment above by OmegaBronic above until now.
 
LordTracer said:
I think this would be the best solution.
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Omegabronic said:
I Believe re-openning the thread would be best, i agree with your solution
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Nierre said:
Yeah it'd be best to remove them for now, and if the OP wants to, they can make a new CRT proving that the DB Anime is canon to Kai to then readd to the page.
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I have done my part

There is a room inside the Living World that creates all of space-time for it: confirming that it’s serviced by its own time dimension
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This is the part where the problem arise, which everyone can check @LordTracer comment

If i missed anything, please tell me, thank everyone ^^
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
My apologies for clogging the thread, but i'd like to state something.

If the decision is to revert and properly resolve this, I'm fine with it. If i may though, blaming the OP for something that was fundamentally a staff oversight is dishonest. The accusations of ‘sneaking things in’ were baseless from the start, and it’s about time we dropped that narrative. Words have meanings, let's not forget that.
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Worry not, I do not think anyone in particular needs punishment; accidents happen. But a reopening of the thread and reclarification to remove some things not accepted is reasonable.
 
It doesn't help that he's referring to a user as 傻逼, which a google search suggests this is a massive slur in Chinese.
 
I'm getting other answers like "************" and "****" but yeah, needless to say he's doubling down on his behavior over a disagreement in scaling.
 
Seems to be a deliberate troll even based on first impressions, there is also this note on the approval queue.

Content country NL does not match registration country FR

I'm leaning towards banning them if the main premise is they came here just to spite Honkai fans. But want to see more staff votes before doing so.
 
Some of their comments amount to criticism, which is good but only really if it is constructive. Still, I hesitate to call this trolling; I feel it is an important distinction to make that trolling is lashing out mindlessly with no intent of other action, for the user's entertainment. We tend to crack down quite hard on trolling because that trolling is all they have to offer us (and, need it be said, we don't want that). This feels more like agitation and frustration. Still worthy of a stern rebuttal, of course.

@XxhuixX If you have anything to say in your defense, now would be the time.
 
They are likely correct regarding that Honkai has been heavily exaggerated, and urgently needs to be downgraded to accurate statistics, but that is not an excuse for slurs, agitation, and strong racism. 🙏
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Yeah, those questions are pretty egregious no matter how you take them. Does the Twitter account belong to OP, or some other person?
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Ben 10 scalers has done similair things in the past, We do know it's one of them, just not who's of the Ben 10 scalers it is.
 
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