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I highly doubt the Shinju Ego are physically inferior to Pre-God Tree Juubidara
What’re you basing this on though? We’ve seen through TT Fission / Claw Grimes that Bodies that come from/are composed of Juubi’s Body/Chakra are not equally as strong as the original.

Therefore, it’s certainly plausible that the Shinju Ego’s ā€œcanā€ have weaker bodies than Pre-God Tree Madara for Example.
 
😭you dont even like azathoth youre just choosing him cuz hes strong, I on the other hand at least am a die hard TF fan
I don't play fairāœŒļø:cool:
What’re you basing this on though? We’ve seen through TT Fission / Claw Grimes that Bodies that come from/are composed of Juubi’s Body/Chakra are not equally as strong as the original.

Therefore, it’s certainly plausible that the Shinju Ego’s ā€œcanā€ have weaker bodies than Pre-God Tree Madara for Example.
It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
 
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It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them.
That wouldn't happen no matter how strong the characters get. Outside of a Wind Style jutsu, no top tier is going to damage a weaker character by breathing on them - unless you're just being facetious.
 
That wouldn't happen no matter how strong the characters get. Outside of a Wind Style jutsu, no top tier is going to damage a weaker character by breathing on them - unless you're just being facetious.
I think he just meant that Boruto has to actually use ninjutsu and weapons to harm the shinju instead of just like, flicking their heads off, so they clearly are somewhat relative to him physically
 
Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
 
Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
Pray to the scaling gods that a character interacts with it physically
 
For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style
Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.
Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike
Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.

Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.
Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically
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Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
The year is 2034, the gang is still fighting Ryu and co in the sand
 
Video game/novel character type beat
Usually they get it scaled to their physicals, because no one’s willing to read the series enough to argue against it
Pray to the scaling gods that a character interacts with it physically
I mean the way we usually do it is just use statements of ā€œhis strongest jutsuā€ ā€œfar superior to x which includes their combat capabilitiesā€ ā€œx costs more chakra than yā€


But this is a different case because it’s not making use of finite values, if I can output aleph 5 joules in a chidori I don’t see why I can’t do the same to my rasengan or even punches
 
Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.

Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.

Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.

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@Nierre Boruto should get durability negation with Uzuhiko.
 
I don't play fairāœŒļø:cool:

It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
Isshiki is scaled billions of times higher than Naruto Rikudō and Sasuke and they also didn't explode with a sneeze from Isshiki
 
Almost like Isshiki had reasons for keeping the duo alive or had reasons to not expend lots of energy cuz he had 20 hours left to live or sometimes both were true at the same time
 
Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.
That just shows that characters that tank it scale somewhat to the user as well. Even if very low end. Even if its "intent" isn't to hurt opponents, it still packs the chakra of the user in an offensive form.
Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.
I disagree pretty strongly. Sharp weapons are super effective, but there are plenty of cases where they're tanked when there's a large stat difference.
Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.
He'd have to reinforce his body with chakra to tank them, which he has no reason to waste his energy on if he can just stand to the side
Almost like Isshiki had reasons for keeping the duo alive
We been over this that's not what he was doing 😭

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Him holding back is fine but he was most certainly not intentionally keeping them alive
 
@MinatoSparkle

My point is, it is not wise to Blanket them with that Generalization. Hidari / Mamushi physical feats don’t inherently scale to Ryu or Matsuri.

So when you say things like, they shouldn’t be weaker than Six Paths Madara physically because These 2 ā€œotherā€ Characters have shown XYZ, that is textbook ā€œAssociation Fallacyā€.
 
Sharp weapons are super effective, but there are plenty of cases where they're tanked when there's a large stat difference.
When?
That just shows that characters that tank it scale somewhat to the user as well. Even if very low end. Even if its "intent" isn't to hurt opponents, it still packs the chakra of the user in an offensive form.
No, the technique literally does 0 damage. All it does is send people flying, it's an LS feat, not an AP feat. He got sent flying, so his LS is lower than the LS of Boruto's Breakthrough. Mitsuki used Breakthrough against Boro and his gas and literally did 0 damage despite being relative.

But regardless, Hidari still has mid physicals?? He literally has nothing to show for Tier 5 physicals as of now. He got knicked by Sarada's chidori and got his (wood) arm cut in half by Boruto, and got his shoulder blown off with a Rasengan.

Just based on his showings, he is NOT relative to Boruto, and only with Chidori.
 
Btw, is there any specific reason why we don't have separate keys for 4 tail/6 tail Naruto?
why give out separate keys to transformations, keys are generally for when you get stronger overall and have all transformations and attack variations bumped up
 
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