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currently on the wiki KCM 1 Naruto and V1 Karma Boruto (pre true essence and all that) are close-ish stats, boruto being stronger but the gap not being x10 or anything, who you guys got winning?
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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My point still stands. There is a separation between those that are satisfied with the godtier Ap and those that are not. This Arc is a big hypocrite ask him how long he has been working on 2c bleach, even right now with the rating past galaxy level he still constantly working on upgrading the verse which I have no problem with. But for some reason he wants every naruto fans to accept the current rating for the Verse and keep quiet.
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Whew, here we go again.
Ghostimuscrime
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boruto sends naruto's decapitated head flying
I’m one giant hypocrite. I’m not allowed to think Bleach is stronger than Naruto. The great Lex said so
Ghostimuscrime
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man please
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Boruto, with karma he can absorbs an ninjutsu that Naruto throws at him and AP-wise his> honestly off my head I don't know if naruto has any Wincon.
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Lex it’s not downplay to create a profile with all the concrete feats/information that we currently have. We don’t have to wait for a character to showcase their true potential to create a profile lol
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BFR and absorption are kinda tuff ngl. Prolly Bort for me.
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Naruto bodies imo. even if you want to argue speed equal, Naruto still has his Shunshin which Boruto will def struggle against. I don't think Boruto has the reaction speed to respond to his Shunshin (which he uses in character). Naruto is more skilled, has more experience, superior close combat fighter, far higher chakra pool so he can spam more clones faster and better(?) than Boruto can defeat them. Boruto's best wincons are AP, Karma (rift and absorption), but Naruto doesn't need to use absorbable ninjutsu to defeat him
Ghostimuscrime
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Does naruto get mentioned by other general threads, with the time ive spent on here im a bit surprised that no one discusses one piece vs naruto here, its just bleach vs naruto with bleach being concluded stronger
on twitter its naruto bleach and op consistently being included in discussions
on twitter its naruto bleach and op consistently being included in discussions
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“Ssgengar,” Honestly, I will just let this die. It is fine. Please next time read the whole arguments before choosing sides.
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it happened a ton after the wano revisions completed, but they've slowed down now
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That's because everyone here know Naruto absolutely bodies One Piece. It's not really a discussion if we're being fr.
MinatoSparkle
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I'm not particularly happy with the current God Tier ratings either
Ghostimuscrime
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naturally I heavily agree but wiki stats wise, before net and test came in clutch with their threads naruto got pushed back as the weakest hst verse for a while
below 1 zettaton in ap and 2.11c speeds compared to OP god tiers with more than 1 zettaton and 10.66c
even now theyre both in the same tier (tier 5)
it makes much more sense to do naruto vs op match ups instead of bleach as they bleed into tier 3 and mftl (almost 50x faster compared to back then)
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I think bleach vs naruto is discussed more here because there’s quite a few bleach supporters that are active on this thread. From what I’ve seen if naruto is brought up in the OP thread it’s just him getting shit on lmao
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The two Bleach supporters (Deceived and I) never bring up cross verse Bleach Naruto match ups here. It only gets brought up when people complain that I scale Bleach to 2C but not Naruto
Ghostimuscrime
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I thought you didnt care about GT stuff
smh typical op fanbase behaviour
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bleach vs naruto is barely discussed here because its such a ridiculous stomp
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There was a lot of Naruto vs OP matches being made a while back. It just kinda slowed down after dozens of threads ended in "genjutsu gg" stomps.
Stats aside tho, Naruto beats One Piece because of its superior hax, not really its stats (although it beats it there too IMO). This is also why we don't get a lot of Naruto vs Bleach matches anymore either, Bleach just went kinda crazy with the hax they got.
Ghostimuscrime
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alright man zip it up once youre done, we get itbleach vs naruto is barely discussed here because its such a ridiculous stomp
MinatoSparkle
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It's not my biggest interest, but I do have the verse at Tier 4 and MFTL+
Ghostimuscrime
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oh boy
Tbh Kishimoto could also go crazy with his hax too, it's no bleach but its crazy good compared to the average verse, it might even have reached bleach heights but the issue was those hax ruins practicality, one needs to really rewrite the story with precision to fit them in and not have those haxed people overpower higher people easily
Ghostimuscrime
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Naruto is a massively superior as a story so that makes it up for worse hax 
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as a note this version boruto cant BFR casually whenever he wants
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Nah yeah I didn’t mean that yall actually bring match ups up. Just that since we have bleach supporters here and that the verse is brought up more often than OP, it makes sense as to why those match ups are discussed here more often
MinatoSparkle
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Itachi is sadly not FTL+
Ghostimuscrime
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in wiki? yeah that's why I said crt
outside wiki? there's really no objective hold on how strong a character is allowed to be, he can be mach1 or even infinite speed, its upto the person with the right arguments
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They’re not all like that. But yeah I actually like OP and have nothing bad to say about the series, so it sucks to see Naruto spoken about so negatively by some every time it’s brought up over there
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both itachi and minato are ass
pierced by rando shuriken and splinter for the latter
pierced by rando shuriken and splinter for the latter
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MinatoSparkle
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Sure, I'm saying I disagree with him being FTL+. FTL is fine tho
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Itachi might unironically have a MFTL rating on his profile.
Ghostimuscrime
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but itachi is majestic, his beauty can make the biggest man hating lesbians come to appreciate the goat
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Ghostimuscrime
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playing hard to get huh, I'll take it
Tsukiyomi right? Jutsu Activation speed metas go brr
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if we knew what kind of camera was being used in that one itachi novel, we could get some good wank for kid itachi unironically
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Does that feat appear in the anime adaptation? I don't recall tbh, especially cause the anime version was loose asf, it was NOT faithful lol
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your pfp gives brawl star vibes (meant to say to shadow)
