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Archie Sonic can't scale to this in any shape, otherwise it breaks R>F. So he can't have 1-A plot manip or anything else.
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R>F Off Panel Sonic
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Yes, I agree with this situation and even think that plot manipulation should be completely removed.
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I've seen this work in Novel Dio and Beyond. As long as Archie Sonic is the main Character of the novel, won't the narrative flow progress for him?
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If there is any hint that the writters always make it so sanic wins, then boom, easy 1-A plot manip for him.
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You agreed this Calc?
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I mean, I agree with making off sonic 1-A, but not with making it so regular sonic has 1-A passive hax, unless scans says otherwise.
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Thread looks fine, I agree
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The beyond is the one actively helping Dio. You would need some proof the off-panel writers actively help Sonic in some way rather than just writing the comic as it is.
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That’s a point... Well. Archie Sonic can wait. For now I'll just focus on Off Panel Sonic then. So do you agree with this?
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Yeah this seems fine
Neutral on a Key, figured a page would be better, but sure I guess.
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Mb.That make sense
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Mostly.
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A key? This is a different character we're talking about. Why does it have to be a key exactly?
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Why can't alternative variants receive keys? Off Panel Sonic also writes Archie Comics. It's like drawing a Comic's own avatar and writing about his adventures.
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It's literally a different character, so it's a different page, and what are your thoughts on the subject right now? (If you don't mind)
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I'm not very knowledgeable on Archie so I'm going off of the heaps of information I can find here, I guess i agree.
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Then provide it instead of just saying it exists
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This is legitimately like if an anime or manga had a fourth wall-breaking omake at the end of a chapter and we decided to give 1-A keys to all the characters who showed up in it as a consequence.
Just, no. Absolutely not.
Just, no. Absolutely not.
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My request from you is to examine the additional contexts. This is not a matter of the 'fourth wall' in but rather the realm of the writers, where everything is seen as fiction (including plays and comic books). Everything is created by the writers, and there are no fictional elements that cannot access this realm
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So what is the exact deduction here? Because this R>F context is not exactly the same, and in the Imgur link I provided (as extra context), there are much more detailed comic images. You can check that.
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Yeah, I've seen your posts. "It's not fourth wall breaking, it's a realm where everyone is a writer/actor/editor/etc" is just hairsplitting. The point is that this does not seem to be a serious part of the verse whatsoever and is just a bunch of comedic extras where the characters live in a "real world" of sorts. Really just seeing cosmology where there isn't any.
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Your comments are always valuable, so I think it would be better if I explained myself during the time I'm here:
If we split cosmology into two parts, I need to treat all the games and comics as one part, and Deadline as a separate part. The main point here is that the plot of Archie Sonic should be fully removed, and a new page should be created. But let's not get into the R>F issue for now.
This version, which is completely different from Archie Sonic, is written by an author who lives in a way that’s very different from the plot. This can be considered as a fourth-wall awareness, but the main issue is that the structures covering the entire cosmology in the Imgur links I provided are seen as a story by the writer. The writer Sonic (i.e., Off Panel Sonic) sees this as a narrative and rewrites his own story. All writers see the story as fiction, and their worlds are entirely independent of the cosmology, existing in realms that are completely inaccessible. The reason for their inaccessibility is as follows:
No fictional character has ever reached the deadline or Off Panel, and none has been aware of their existence (let alone can't sensing them). Given all this, I would like to note that it meets the R>F standards, but you are the expert here, and your decision would be more reasonable than mine.
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So what do we do with the Deadline page? R>F is accepted there prior to the revisions. Downgrade it?
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Then this simply isn't "a key" for the characters since they're so far removed from the fictional characters that they're not even the same. Furthermore, just from these short comics they don't have enough material to warrant their own pages.
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We ALREADY have pages for Off-Panel:
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I do think only Sonic out of the Off-Panel characters has enough material for a page, but we got to decide on what to do with Deadline. Downgrade or upgrade?
Deadline
Deadline is an antagonist in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series and its spin-offs published by Archie Comics. Deadline is an entity and a fan of the Archie Sonic comic book continuity, who very possibly represents a persistent, Archie Sonic fan mailer to Sonic Grams, Ian Potto,[1] mirroring Amy...
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I do think only Sonic out of the Off-Panel characters has enough material for a page, but we got to decide on what to do with Deadline. Downgrade or upgrade?
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I mean specifically the Sonic characters themselves. We have rules against making profiles for characters that are just the base characters but with a different tier.We ALREADY have pages for Off-Panel:
Deadline
Deadline is an antagonist in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series and its spin-offs published by Archie Comics. Deadline is an entity and a fan of the Archie Sonic comic book continuity, who very possibly represents a persistent, Archie Sonic fan mailer to Sonic Grams, Ian Potto,[1] mirroring Amy...
I do think only Sonic out of the Off-Panel characters has enough material for a page, but we got to decide on what to do with Deadline. Downgrade or upgrade?
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Tbf 4th Wall Sonic would most likely have different hax, but that's a discussion for another time. We need to decide on what to do with Deadline's page.
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Bruh, did he seriously rename the page just so he could make it a key instead? That just kinda ruins everything.
Anyway, he does have some abilities, I'm seeing he creates a mini-tornado (Air Manipulation), he goes Werehog too (Transformation, Elasticity, Body Control, Body Weaponry).
Well, that's about as much as I could find, I'm sure there has to be more from the earlier versions
Anyway, he does have some abilities, I'm seeing he creates a mini-tornado (Air Manipulation), he goes Werehog too (Transformation, Elasticity, Body Control, Body Weaponry).
Well, that's about as much as I could find, I'm sure there has to be more from the earlier versions
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I changed the name because it's not archie Sonic
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Their achievements and the presence of all Off Panel pages in Pre genesis may at least provide enough material for them. At least a new page should be opened for them because it has nothing to do with Archie Sonic, And what is your opinion on the subject right now?
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I disagree. I think there is some merit to warrant having previous abilites from Archie Sonic and should warrant a Super Form. Same should be applied with Mega Man.
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But why? We have nothing to guarantee this, and it seems illogical. What is your current view on CRT?
They are already completely different and distinct characters, and as we know, Off Panel has powerful abilities like Acausality 5/Transduality 2/Plot Manipulation (1A). I think such a comparison is illogical.
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I mean…..you saw the links I posted right? I edited them to where they show the images.
Anyways, I agree with 1-A Off Panel Sonic and do believe he should receive Plot Manipulation, BDE Type 2, and Transduality Type 2. Other than that, previous abilities from Archie Sonic and a Super Form. You technically can argue Ultra Sonic as well since we see that he acts out the previous stories as implied by other Off Panel stories (Off Panel in Archie Sonic Issue 252).
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sorry non of this images work.
oh okey then but this is not the topic rn
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