Bye-bye Multiversal Miraculous

[Suigetsuhyugs]

That's literally not even true lmao, in this Wiki the word countless (which has the same definition) consensually represents a finite amount.

Countless means too many to count which is different from impossible to count.

 

[Hixkaryana]

Countless means too many to count which is different from impossible to count.

Too many to count=impossible to count. Also why have we moved on to semantics when the issue isn't even about that..

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Too many to count=impossible to count. Also why have we moved on to semantics when the issue isn't even about that..

You started on semantics and definitions. And this is useless, if you wanna make a thread so do it, but your arguments are horrible even more now talking about the meaning of infinity.

 

[Hixkaryana]

You started on semantics and definitions. And this is useless, if you wanna make a thread so do it, but your arguments are horrible even more now talking about the meaning of infinity.

My sole argument is that we have no proof of the contents of the Guardian's book, which makes your argument unreliable and a fallacy.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

My sole argument is that we have no proof of the contents of the Guardian's book, which makes your argument unreliable and a fallacy.

No, your argument is that a statement of being infinite doesn't count because you have a vague statement which might or might not mean it's less

 

[Hixkaryana]

No, your argument is that a statement of being infinite doesn't count because you have a vague statement which might or might not mean it's less

Then you might've read with your eyes shut, because I only brought that up because you made a mistake when writing your quote.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Then you might've read with your eyes shut, because I only brought that up because you made a mistake when writing your quote.

That wasn't a quote it was my words. I use "" when I quote

 

[Hixkaryana]

That wasn't a quote it was my words. I use "" when I quote

You said that he claimed something, that's indirect speech but that's still a form of quoting. Anyways we've made our points clear.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

When you say “billions of universes,” you're still dealing with a finite number, no matter how large. Even though billions are large, they don’t come close to infinity. If Tikki says “billions of universes,” it doesn’t imply “infinite universes” . Just because billions are part of an infinite set (like how 2 is part of infinity) doesn’t mean billions = infinity. If there were an infinite amount of universes, Tikki would have never said billions, and if there were an infinite amount of universes, Tikki would be infinite years old.

It doesn’t imply infinity, but it doesn’t contradict it as well, thus Gabriel’s statement still has an authority.

 

[Wikisource]

Seems fine.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Why are we arguing about the cosmology when it doesn't pertain to the thread? Furthermore it doesn't matter anyway since nobody scales to it yet. I'm sure when someone does, they'll give more confirmation as to whether the multiverse has finite or infinite universes.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

the goat has arrived. the yap in this blog is no more

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This debunk is flawed. Let's use inductive reasoning to present an argument as to why it's incorrect.


Logical Argument 1: If a valid source affirms that the windows are indeed windows and are connected to "every" available space-time, then we must conclude that if the burrow exists independently in every universe, or if it's referring to a singular burrow, the conclusion still stands that Cat Blanc can affect these universes.


Logical Argument 2: The reason for this can be directly supported by the most recent media, specifically the London Special. In the London Special, several things are revealed. First, we know that when a wish is made, it destroys and erases the timeline, as we saw at the end of season 5. In the London Special, we observe that when a wish is made, a window disappears, indicating that the timeline has been completely erased. One cannot argue that this happens within the same timeline because, when the villain first makes the wish, the windows are black, showing that that timeline—or "future"—no longer exists. Additionally, trying to go back in time through that window doesn't work either. Each window is a "snapshot" of a timeline, which can be rewound, fast-forwarded, or stopped. If a window turns black (or, in Cat Blanc's case, static), that means the timeline has been destroyed, and the connection is lost.

A wish from Gimmi destroys the past, present, and future. When a wish is made, it rewrites everything that exists, creating a new reality, which inherently changes all three temporal states. If everything were part of the same timeline, why wouldn't all the portals disappear? The answer is simple: because they are different time-spaces. This argument has been affirmed by the official source regarding the burrow and by Ladybug herself. This also aligns with the "streams = timelines" analogy, which refers to the semantic implications of what a timeline is. In this sense, we can equate things X and Y because they share similar properties—specifically, their general appearance. We use terms like "flowing," "stream," and others that are commonly associated with both rivers and timelines.
To clarify, if you have a car with four doors and two people with keys, this analogy refers to the burrow as the car and the portals as the destinations the car can travel to, not whatever you may be suggesting.
Within the narrative, this interpretation makes much more sense than the one you're trying to argue. Another point to consider is that the alternative interpretation of the burrow would limit Cat Blanc to being just 2-A. If you believe that when Bunnyx says "all of time," she is referring to the entirety of the Miraculous Ladybug multiverse, then Cat Blanc's ability to affect that "connector" would scale him to that level. However, there is no evidence that there is more than one burrow, right? Well, sort of. The current interpretation is that all we know is that there exists a burrow within the main Miraculous universe. But if that's the case, why can't the burrow travel to other universes? The answer is simple: there exists a burrow in each universe, which would explain why they cannot do what I just mentioned. But that's an argument for another day.



Now, here's the current understanding of how time works within the verse.


The Burrow is the connector of all time within a universe.
The totality of time flows to it and exists within it.
The Burrow's time is "distinct" from all the other timelines that exist within a universe.
Within the verse, we directly see that altering time affects portals and vice versa.


If Event A exists within a window and then Person A changes Event A with an ability, causing it to become Event B, this does not mean that Event A never happened. Instead, it means that Event A now exists differently from Event B. For these two distinct, tangent events to coexist, a separate time-space is required for them to exist independently. Both tangent events cannot exist within the same temporality, as that would create a contradiction.


For example, if Ladybug dies (let's take the wish as an example and assume she doesn't get saved due to plot reasons, and we can also place a ghost in her place if necessary), then that window is gone. Everything before it still exists, but when Ladybug fails multiple times, the windows that allowed her to travel to those places turn black. This indicates one thing: timelines within the verse operate on a principle known as root-cause-contingency (RCC). RCC refers to the concept where timelines branch off from the main timeline, but when the main timeline is destroyed, the others are also destroyed. This is because their fundamental existence depends on the existence of the main timeline, even though they are distinct time-spaces. This process explains the events we see in the movie.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In conclusion i have provided arguments and reasoning behind why what your sayng is wrong and the correct interperation of the burrow.



gg ez no re

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

the goat has arrived. the yap in this blog is no more

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This debunk is flawed. Let's use inductive reasoning to present an argument as to why it's incorrect.


Logical Argument 1: If a valid source affirms that the windows are indeed windows and are connected to "every" available space-time, then we must conclude that if the burrow exists independently in every universe, or if it's referring to a singular burrow, the conclusion still stands that Cat Blanc can affect these universes.


Logical Argument 2: The reason for this can be directly supported by the most recent media, specifically the London Special. In the London Special, several things are revealed. First, we know that when a wish is made, it destroys and erases the timeline, as we saw at the end of season 5. In the London Special, we observe that when a wish is made, a window disappears, indicating that the timeline has been completely erased. One cannot argue that this happens within the same timeline because, when the villain first makes the wish, the windows are black, showing that that timeline—or "future"—no longer exists. Additionally, trying to go back in time through that window doesn't work either. Each window is a "snapshot" of a timeline, which can be rewound, fast-forwarded, or stopped. If a window turns black (or, in Cat Blanc's case, static), that means the timeline has been destroyed, and the connection is lost.

A wish from Gimmi destroys the past, present, and future. When a wish is made, it rewrites everything that exists, creating a new reality, which inherently changes all three temporal states. If everything were part of the same timeline, why wouldn't all the portals disappear? The answer is simple: because they are different time-spaces. This argument has been affirmed by the official source regarding the burrow and by Ladybug herself. This also aligns with the "streams = timelines" analogy, which refers to the semantic implications of what a timeline is. In this sense, we can equate things X and Y because they share similar properties—specifically, their general appearance. We use terms like "flowing," "stream," and others that are commonly associated with both rivers and timelines.
To clarify, if you have a car with four doors and two people with keys, this analogy refers to the burrow as the car and the portals as the destinations the car can travel to, not whatever you may be suggesting.
Within the narrative, this interpretation makes much more sense than the one you're trying to argue. Another point to consider is that the alternative interpretation of the burrow would limit Cat Blanc to being just 2-A. If you believe that when Bunnyx says "all of time," she is referring to the entirety of the Miraculous Ladybug multiverse, then Cat Blanc's ability to affect that "connector" would scale him to that level. However, there is no evidence that there is more than one burrow, right? Well, sort of. The current interpretation is that all we know is that there exists a burrow within the main Miraculous universe. But if that's the case, why can't the burrow travel to other universes? The answer is simple: there exists a burrow in each universe, which would explain why they cannot do what I just mentioned. But that's an argument for another day.



Now, here's the current understanding of how time works within the verse.


The Burrow is the connector of all time within a universe.
The totality of time flows to it and exists within it.
The Burrow's time is "distinct" from all the other timelines that exist within a universe.
Within the verse, we directly see that altering time affects portals and vice versa.


If Event A exists within a window and then Person A changes Event A with an ability, causing it to become Event B, this does not mean that Event A never happened. Instead, it means that Event A now exists differently from Event B. For these two distinct, tangent events to coexist, a separate time-space is required for them to exist independently. Both tangent events cannot exist within the same temporality, as that would create a contradiction.


For example, if Ladybug dies (let's take the wish as an example and assume she doesn't get saved due to plot reasons, and we can also place a ghost in her place if necessary), then that window is gone. Everything before it still exists, but when Ladybug fails multiple times, the windows that allowed her to travel to those places turn black. This indicates one thing: timelines within the verse operate on a principle known as root-cause-contingency (RCC). RCC refers to the concept where timelines branch off from the main timeline, but when the main timeline is destroyed, the others are also destroyed. This is because their fundamental existence depends on the existence of the main timeline, even though they are distinct time-spaces. This process explains the events we see in the movie.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In conclusion i have provided arguments and reasoning behind why what your sayng is wrong and the correct interperation of the burrow.



gg ez no re

I think this is really confusing. Maybe try with simpler words

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Hey I wast to throw something in there about the flying power ups existing in every universe.


It's never said they are the same entity, as each universe has a separate time it probably also has a separate creation and destruction hence separate entitys repersenting those concepts, even if the concepts are identical there for the physical manifestions are as well, this dosen't mean each one individually is the same entity as the others (this is like saying every spiderman in the multiverse is the same entity and all would need to die to beat spiderman in a fight)

 

[Hixkaryana]

"The Burrow's time is "distinct" from all the other timelines that exist within a universe." Since when are their multiple timelines per universe?

 

[Hixkaryana]

Hey I wast to throw something in there about the flying power ups existing in every universe.


It's never said they are the same entity, as each universe has a separate time it probably also has a separate creation and destruction hence separate entitys repersenting those concepts, even if the concepts are identical there for the physical manifestions are as well, this dosen't mean each one individually is the same entity as the others (this is like saying every spiderman in the multiverse is the same entity and all would need to die to beat spiderman in a fight)

No I think it was explicitly stated the Kwamis of Creation and Destruction were apart of every universe, and represented these concepts in them.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

No I think it was explicitly stated the Kwamis of Creation and Destruction were apart of every universe, and represented these concepts in them.

Yes there is a kwam of Creation and destruction in every universe, I'm saying nothing says there all collectively the same entity. Rather it's more likely they are separate but identical entitys

 

[Hixkaryana]

Yes there is a kwam of Creation and destruction in every universe, I'm saying nothing says there all collectively the same entity. Rather it's more likely they are separate but identical entitys

I don't understand what you mean...you first affirmed that they're not the same entities, and then you said they're identical entities.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

I think this is really confusing. Maybe try with simpler words

tldr: if the burrow is just windows of different times within the same universe, but then we see a wish destroys the past present and future, then why isn't all the windows destroyed if their all the same timeline, this would mean that their all different timelines connected to one main timeline.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Is nobody going to attack my argument, lel

the goat has arrived. the yap in this blog is no more

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This debunk is flawed. Let's use inductive reasoning to present an argument as to why it's incorrect.


Logical Argument 1: If a valid source affirms that the windows are indeed windows and are connected to "every" available space-time, then we must conclude that if the burrow exists independently in every universe, or if it's referring to a singular burrow, the conclusion still stands that Cat Blanc can affect these universes.


Logical Argument 2: The reason for this can be directly supported by the most recent media, specifically the London Special. In the London Special, several things are revealed. First, we know that when a wish is made, it destroys and erases the timeline, as we saw at the end of season 5. In the London Special, we observe that when a wish is made, a window disappears, indicating that the timeline has been completely erased. One cannot argue that this happens within the same timeline because, when the villain first makes the wish, the windows are black, showing that that timeline—or "future"—no longer exists. Additionally, trying to go back in time through that window doesn't work either. Each window is a "snapshot" of a timeline, which can be rewound, fast-forwarded, or stopped. If a window turns black (or, in Cat Blanc's case, static), that means the timeline has been destroyed, and the connection is lost.

A wish from Gimmi destroys the past, present, and future. When a wish is made, it rewrites everything that exists, creating a new reality, which inherently changes all three temporal states. If everything were part of the same timeline, why wouldn't all the portals disappear? The answer is simple: because they are different time-spaces. This argument has been affirmed by the official source regarding the burrow and by Ladybug herself. This also aligns with the "streams = timelines" analogy, which refers to the semantic implications of what a timeline is. In this sense, we can equate things X and Y because they share similar properties—specifically, their general appearance. We use terms like "flowing," "stream," and others that are commonly associated with both rivers and timelines.
To clarify, if you have a car with four doors and two people with keys, this analogy refers to the burrow as the car and the portals as the destinations the car can travel to, not whatever you may be suggesting.
Within the narrative, this interpretation makes much more sense than the one you're trying to argue. Another point to consider is that the alternative interpretation of the burrow would limit Cat Blanc to being just 2-A. If you believe that when Bunnyx says "all of time," she is referring to the entirety of the Miraculous Ladybug multiverse, then Cat Blanc's ability to affect that "connector" would scale him to that level. However, there is no evidence that there is more than one burrow, right? Well, sort of. The current interpretation is that all we know is that there exists a burrow within the main Miraculous universe. But if that's the case, why can't the burrow travel to other universes? The answer is simple: there exists a burrow in each universe, which would explain why they cannot do what I just mentioned. But that's an argument for another day.



Now, here's the current understanding of how time works within the verse.


The Burrow is the connector of all time within a universe.
The totality of time flows to it and exists within it.
The Burrow's time is "distinct" from all the other timelines that exist within a universe.
Within the verse, we directly see that altering time affects portals and vice versa.


If Event A exists within a window and then Person A changes Event A with an ability, causing it to become Event B, this does not mean that Event A never happened. Instead, it means that Event A now exists differently from Event B. For these two distinct, tangent events to coexist, a separate time-space is required for them to exist independently. Both tangent events cannot exist within the same temporality, as that would create a contradiction.


For example, if Ladybug dies (let's take the wish as an example and assume she doesn't get saved due to plot reasons, and we can also place a ghost in her place if necessary), then that window is gone. Everything before it still exists, but when Ladybug fails multiple times, the windows that allowed her to travel to those places turn black. This indicates one thing: timelines within the verse operate on a principle known as root-cause-contingency (RCC). RCC refers to the concept where timelines branch off from the main timeline, but when the main timeline is destroyed, the others are also destroyed. This is because their fundamental existence depends on the existence of the main timeline, even though they are distinct time-spaces. This process explains the events we see in the movie.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In conclusion i have provided arguments and reasoning behind why what your sayng is wrong and the correct interperation of the burrow.



gg ez no re

 

[Hixkaryana]

tldr: if the burrow is just windows of different times within the same universe, but then we see a wish destroys the past present and future, then why isn't all the windows destroyed if their all the same timeline, this would mean that their all different timelines connected to one main timeline.

But they did all get destroyed tho? I have foggy memory but I do remember the debate we had in the original thread, when one window collapsed all of them followed through.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

But they did all get destroyed tho? I have foggy memory but I do remember the debate we had in the original thread, when one window collapsed all of them followed through.

I addressed that in the argument I posted but I'm referring to in the movie when we first see a wish happening

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Yes there is a kwam of Creation and destruction in every universe, I'm saying nothing says there all collectively the same entity. Rather it's more likely they are separate but identical entitys

tiki and plagg are the same tiki and plagg btw they just are present within every single universe.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I don't understand what you mean...you first affirmed that they're not the same entities, and then you said they're identical entities.

They are separate entitys with the same personality and probably name but live in different universes. Aka the concepts of time creation and destruction are not multiverseal but every universe has there own separate concept of each.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

tiki and plagg are the same tiki and plagg btw they just are present within every single universe.

Well I am a little behind on the show, where is this said, I thought there was just one of them in each, they certainly don't share memories

 

[henryzx900ruly]

They are separate entitys with the same personality and probably name but live in different universes. Aka the concepts of time creation and destruction are not multiverseal but every universe has there own separate concept of each.

this is NOT how this works.

 

[Hixkaryana]

They are separate entitys with the same personality and probably name but live in different universes. Aka the concepts of time creation and destruction are not multiverseal but every universe has there own separate concept of each.

All entities share a consciousness, every Tikki in the multiverse is aware of the doings of her other versions.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Well I am a little behind on the show, where is this said, I thought there was just one of them in each, they certainly don't share memories

Tiki has memory from the other versions of herself she just doesn't care to talk about them.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

the goat has arrived.

Not really.

the yap in this blog is no more

What blog?

Logical Argument 1: If a valid source affirms that the windows are indeed windows and are connected to "every" available space-time, then we must conclude that if the burrow exists independently in every universe, or if it's referring to a singular burrow, the conclusion still stands that Cat Blanc can affect these universes.

Contradicted by every single depiction.

Logical Argument 2: The reason for this can be directly supported by the most recent media, specifically the London Special. In the London Special, several things are revealed. First, we know that when a wish is made, it destroys and erases the timeline, as we saw at the end of season 5. In the London Special, we observe that when a wish is made, a window disappears, indicating that the timeline has been completely erased. One cannot argue that this happens within the same timeline because, when the villain first makes the wish, the windows are black, showing that that timeline—or "future"—no longer exists. Additionally, trying to go back in time through that window doesn't work either. Each window is a "snapshot" of a timeline, which can be rewound, fast-forwarded, or stopped. If a window turns black (or, in Cat Blanc's case, static), that means the timeline has been destroyed, and the connection is lost.

A wish from Gimmi destroys the past, present, and future. When a wish is made, it rewrites everything that exists, creating a new reality, which inherently changes all three temporal states. If everything were part of the same timeline, why wouldn't all the portals disappear? The answer is simple: because they are different time-spaces. This argument has been affirmed by the official source regarding the burrow and by Ladybug herself. This also aligns with the "streams = timelines" analogy, which refers to the semantic implications of what a timeline is. In this sense, we can equate things X and Y because they share similar properties—specifically, their general appearance. We use terms like "flowing," "stream," and others that are commonly associated with both rivers and timelines.
To clarify, if you have a car with four doors and two people with keys, this analogy refers to the burrow as the car and the portals as the destinations the car can travel to, not whatever you may be suggesting.
Within the narrative, this interpretation makes much more sense than the one you're trying to argue. Another point to consider is that the alternative interpretation of the burrow would limit Cat Blanc to being just 2-A. If you believe that when Bunnyx says "all of time," she is referring to the entirety of the Miraculous Ladybug multiverse, then Cat Blanc's ability to affect that "connector" would scale him to that level. However, there is no evidence that there is more than one burrow, right? Well, sort of. The current interpretation is that all we know is that there exists a burrow within the main Miraculous universe. But if that's the case, why can't the burrow travel to other universes? The answer is simple: there exists a burrow in each universe, which would explain why they cannot do what I just mentioned. But that's an argument for another day.

No scans, so I am not addressing that. Come here when you get them.

The Burrow is the connector of all time within a universe.

True.

The totality of time flows to it and exists within it.

True.

The Burrow's time is "distinct" from all the other timelines that exist within a universe.

Prove that there is time in Burrow.

Within the verse, we directly see that altering time affects portals and vice versa.

True.

Thanks for helping my argument.

If Event A exists within a window and then Person A changes Event A with an ability, causing it to become Event B, this does not mean that Event A never happened. Instead, it means that Event A now exists differently from Event B. For these two distinct, tangent events to coexist, a separate time-space is required for them to exist independently. Both tangent events cannot exist within the same temporality, as that would create a contradiction.

Claim without any proof which is directly contradicted by Cat Blanc and other episodes.

For example, if Ladybug dies (let's take the wish as an example and assume she doesn't get saved due to plot reasons, and we can also place a ghost in her place if necessary), then that window is gone. Everything before it still exists, but when Ladybug fails multiple times, the windows that allowed her to travel to those places turn black. This indicates one thing: timelines within the verse operate on a principle known as root-cause-contingency (RCC). RCC refers to the concept where timelines branch off from the main timeline, but when the main timeline is destroyed, the others are also destroyed. This is because their fundamental existence depends on the existence of the main timeline, even though they are distinct time-spaces. This process explains the events we see in the movie.

Headcanon without any scans, again.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In conclusion i have provided arguments and reasoning behind why what your sayng is wrong and the correct interperation of the burrow.

Uh… no.

gg ez no re

So intelligent.

 

[Hixkaryana]

I'm gonna make a structured argument, I still agree with Orange on the nature of the Burrow.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

"Prove that there is time in the burrow"

I'll

Not really.

What blog?

Contradicted by every single depiction.

No scans, so I am not addressing that. Come here when you get them.

True.

True.

Prove that there is time in Burrow.

True.

Thanks for helping my argument.

Claim without any proof which is directly contradicted by Cat Blanc and other episodes.

Headcanon without any scans, again.

Uh… no.

So intelligent.

instead of giving some type of deductive/inductive reasoning you quite literally just say a couple words and disengage with the argument at hand.


Also did you just say "prove that there's time within the burrow"

Are you suggesting the burrow has no time? That would be the affirmation you would have to take if you were to take the negation to my claim.

Also "headcannon" I don't know if we know this but we've both watched the movie right? And we've both watched past season 5 right?

 

[henryzx900ruly]

"Claim without any proof which is directly contradicted by Cat Blanc and other episodes."

can blud eudlidate apon this claim rq cuz ain't no way bro just asserted something and just didn't give supporting reasoning behind it.

Another thing is that I literally gave you are stuff you would see when you watch the movie and the last few episodes of season 5. I gave you the places when they happen, I cannot find a reliable way to upload them without them getting taken down, but if you want even more evidence I can give you the timestamps within these episodes with what I'm talking about.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

"Prove that there is time in the burrow"

I'll

You seem cut off.

instead of giving some type of deductive/inductive reasoning you quite literally just say a couple words and disengage with the argument at hand.

Because you sent no scans, maybe? How is anybody supposed to know any of your yappery is true?

Also did you just say "prove that there's time within the burrow"

Are you suggesting the burrow has no time? That would be the affirmation you would have to take if you were to take the negation to my claim.

There is no proof from your side that there is a time within Burrow. We do not assume y by default that all structures have time.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Also strangely enough why isn't there a disagree section on the blog? Hmmm?

 

[henryzx900ruly]

You seem cut off.

Because you sent no scans, maybe? How is anybody supposed to know any of your yappery is true?

There is no proof from your side that there is a time within Burrow. We do not assume y by default that all structures have time.

because I literally said when these events happened and where, you can literally just go watch it for yourself.

Secondly, you think that the place, which connects all of time, which you agree is the TOTALITY OF TIME, doesn't have time itself.

Also what's gonna be the argument for why would should assert that "if it wasn't shown to have time then it doesn't" especially within the context of miraculous.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Also stop avoiding the question. You have watched past season 5 and you've watched the movie right?

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Low 2-C.
Also how tf are you so fast
And I accidentally published this before I wanted to, so I will add some things to OP. Sorry about that. Why can't we delete CRTs we made.

You can create a sandbox to finish the CRT before publishing

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Also strangely enough why isn't there a disagree section on the blog? Hmmm?

What blog, again?

because I literally said when these events happened and where, you can literally just go watch it for yourself.

No, you are the one who needs to provide scans and not expect anybody else to watch 1h+ movie and many hours long series.

Secondly, you think that the place, which connects all of time, which you agree is the TOTALITY OF TIME, doesn't have time itself.

Appeal to incredulity. Provide actual proof or stop.

Also what's gonna be the argument for why would should assert that "if it wasn't shown to have time then it doesn't" especially within the context of miraculous.

Because that’s how the wiki works. Create henryzx900ruly battles wiki and have Miraculous at 1-A, idc. Here, you need to follow the rules, comrade.

Also stop avoiding the question. You have watched past season 5 and you've watched the movie right?

No. Although I’d probably like to, but not my top priority.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

You can create a sandbox to finish the CRT before publishing

I was already told so in the very first page, but thank you.

 

[henryzx900ruly]

What blog, again?

No, you are the one who needs to provide scans and not expect anybody else to watch 1h+ movie and many hours long series.

Appeal to incredulity. Provide actual proof or stop.

Because that’s how the wiki works. Create henryzx900ruly battles wiki and have Miraculous at 1-A, idc. Here, you need to follow the rules, comrade.

No. Although I’d probably like to, but not my top priority.

refute 1:This thread. There isn't a disagree section

refute 2: You do realize I said if needed I would give the timestamp and episode to EACH of my claims

refute 3 and 4: where in vsbw does it say we automatically assert a realm that we don't know if it has time, it's automatically a timeless realm.

Refute 5: So your arguing apon things you've never seen for yourself and even when I give you the points in times when these things happen you ignore said fact.