Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

[Vietthai96]

ngl i think ozriel stomps blazblue

Infinite x countless layers passive haxes

I think

 

[Vietthai96]

they cant interact with ozriel and some of the passive stuff ozriel has they dont resist

Huh??, what stuffs, read on mobile is a pain in the ass, BB have CM1, Info hax, EE and someshit

 

[Vietthai96]

• Nonexistent Physiology (All Natures - All Aspects [Logic, Causality, Time, Fate & Information] - Without their physical manifestations[72] Fiends of Chaos are half real creatures[3] that inherently lack souls[73] and logic[27] due to being composed of shards of pure chaos[4], the substance of[50] the Void which is the sheer lack of existence[51] outside the Way[74] that inherently lacks any of it's functions such as archetypal concepts[43] including nonexistence[43] and existence[75], laws and physics[38] that are erased from within it[47], causality[37] which it serves as a dead-end/pitfall to[28], fate[76][74] and fundamental information[43])

Type 1 and 3 is useless, BB god tier can interact with type 2

 

[Livinmeme]

Type 3 is useless,

Nah, BB needs proofs of them interacting with a living paradox, which they haven't, so Ozriel hits them with the History EE that bypasses Type 4 acasuality, and calls it a day. Also BB CM1 is ******* shaky as all hell, like what is this justification.

• With self-observation, user can separate parts of themselves as seen with Noel observing herself to separate Mu from her body. This is seen when Amaterasu manipulated the concept of "world" coming from an already erased universe

That only looks like type 2, the only thing that may give them type 1, is the interacting with something that doesn't exist anymore, which may or not give ground for interacting with concepts greater than the universe, but even that can just be handwaved as being NEP interaction, also that is only interaction with ONE specific concepts, they aren't touching Ozriel like....8 different concepts he embodies.
PD: Yes, before you say it, Ozriel is able to erase basically all concepts in Willverse, because his job is basically destroying universes so hard that not evven the fiends (who literally don't exist), would be able to regenerate from that, AND, blazblue NPE2 should be NPE1 due to the revisions
TLDR: Joblue are frauds that got replaced by their superior series (GGR+, I refuse to play Str*ve tough)...Also Ozriel is there.
PDD:Forget it, I misunderstood BB NEP2, they qualify.

 

[Vietthai96]

Nah, BB needs proofs of them interacting with a living paradox, which they haven't, so Ozriel hits them with the History EE that bypasses Type 4 acasuality, and calls it a day. Also BB CM1 is ******* shaky as all hell, like what is this justification.

Type 3 is just the character is exist yet behave or have nonexistent trait, pretty much useless, it is described by the page to be part 0 (nonexistent) and part 1 (existent), able to interact with nature type 1 is most of the time enough to interact with type 3, let alone able to interact with type 2

 

[Livinmeme]

Type 3 is just the character is exist yet behave or have nonexistent trait, pretty much useless,

Nah man, it is a paradox, you need proofs of them being able to affect paradoxes

 

[Robo432343]

ong BB can't interact with this too

• Nonduality (Type 2 - True Fiends defy classification by nature[77] because The substance of their being[4] is that of the Void itself[22], unable to end because it is without "beginnings" and "endings"[23], existing nowhere because it is neither "there" nor "here"[78] and lacking the inherent functions of the Way[43], that are yet still separate from the Way itself[79], such as the archetypal concepts known as Icons[80] which pair with complementary halves/opposites to form dualities[75] such as "Non-Existence"[43] and "Existence"[75], "Life"[81] and "Death"[82], "Cold"[83] and "Heat"[84] etc.)

 

[Megaraptor149]

Btw this is kinda oot.

Should strongest Non-Smurfs Multiversal (2-C to 2-A) characters thread created too?

 

[CodeCCLL]

Ozriel

So is the Chineman's cosmology just a single Low-1C structure?

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

@Rakih_Elyan

Cradle is Chinese????

Nah it's not lol

It's heavily, and i mean heavily, inspired by xianxia and wuxia genre stuff but it's not chinese

It's a fantasy series (more akin to something like Brandon Sanderson's cosmere) set in a world very much like a wuxia or xianxia

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

@Rakih_Elyan

Cradle is Chinese????

Xianxia written by Western Author.

 

[Livinmeme]

New chinamen (from china) coming up, and this time he may become da strongest

 

[Robo432343]

Ozriel vs Master Unit: Amaterasu (1st Place for Strongest 5-D Character)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ozriel vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Unit:_Amaterasu SBA Speed Equal

vsbattles.com

 

[444_OverTimeNights]

lol

And it's definitely Type 2 by what Truenames are.

I have a question, how are the layers calculated for D&D? And if possible Can u show scans as well

 

[Tyranno223]

fack w101 is getting 1-A
rip low 1-c

From the Low 1-C bargain sale to the 1-A bargain sale.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Question, what prevents Yang Kai from Negging Celestial Foundation Eater?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

his hax is only 3d

Isn't it the same for CFE though?

 

[Vietthai96]

Question, what prevents Yang Kai from Negging Celestial Foundation Eater?

Yang Kai hax is 3d to 4d at most, which get negged by CFE 5D HDE, only his CM1 in his last key is 5D but is baseline and is resisted. Meanwhile CFE just eat him at cm1 and info 2 level

 

[Vietthai96]

Isn't it the same for CFE though?

CFE hax is 5D

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

CFE hax is 5D

hmmmm

 

[Vietthai96]

hmmmm

Or rather 4D, possibly 5D, but since this thread is about 5D, so we use the possibly 5D. CFE hax, or rather the most useful are CM1 and Info 2 hax is 5D cause he can affect and eat celestial foundation which is 5D, celestial foundation is conceptual and informational foundation of space-time, the fish also resists the passive effect of the seal which destroy celestial foundation that do not have canopy, so yeah, Yang Kai can't do anything to CFE while CFE just need to eat him

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

From the Low 1-C bargain sale to the 1-A bargain sale.

Yup and Arceus was one of the first to get a sweet deal iirc (again still surprised neither Xenoblade nor Kirby became the first Nintendo rep to reach 1-A).

And now I leave this thread while my brain hasn't fully rotted away yet.

 

[Vietthai96]

Nitendo is dead

 

[Arthex]

Quick question, what exactly does the sugar swan have that makes him stronger than likes of Arale? Don't notice anything special on the profile from a quick look.

 

[Ar1216789]

Quick question, what exactly does the sugar swan have that makes him stronger than likes of Arale? Don't notice anything special on the profile from a quick look.

Concept Manip Type 1. AE type 1. Arale has no way to affect the Sugar Swan.

Type 1: Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical manifestations are merely avatars

 

[Arthex]

Concept Manip Type 1. AE type 1. Arale has no way to affect the Sugar Swan.

Type 1: Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical manifestations are merely avatars

Seems like dbh's concept manipulation was removed, which is a shame.

 

[Ss3micah]

Seems like dbh's concept manipulation was removed, which is a shame.

In truth
Both Arale and Sugar Swan are tied
But due to rules they need to stay separate as neither can effectively kill each other

 

[Ar1216789]

Cookie Run will soon be gone here..

 

[Livinmeme]

Ozriel may or not become an low 1-A/1-A smurf soon

 

[Vietthai96]

everyone Low 1-A or 1-A these days

 

[CodeCCLL]

did Low 1-C slime just get accepted?

Yes, but there is still a lot of work/discussion to be done and so the changes will take time to applied.

 

[Vietthai96]

i put DBH and wizard101 on the same spot

Huh??, why??

 

[Vietthai96]

because of type 1 conceptual AE

Huh?, i thought Wizard101 was above DBH previously??

 

[Megaraptor149]

yes but some characters from dbh can beat some characters from w101

Then, just use strongest character in verse

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

This thread is dead

 

[Fezzih_007]

This thread is dead

1 week trought that not a lot of time.

 

[Phoenks]

How did Tensei slime tie with princess

 

[CodeCCLL]

How did Tensei slime tie with princess

They seem to completely lack strong offensive moves and they defansive completely useless against information manipulation type 2.

 

[CodeCCLL]

oh
i thought slime loses to TLQ because his NEP is deeper than NEP 2 and he erases you to that degree

If you think that one of the most versatile hax lords on the wiki, such as Rimuru, is going to lose easily because of a single unresisted ability, then you really haven't learnt anything from versus battles so far.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

im just going off by what someone else said on the non smurf thread
coz none of you guys have replied to his message so i assumed you conceded or something

"Yeah, for Slime, cause they do not have the NEP NPI to actually interact with TLQ before he just erases them beyond their capability to do anything. because his NEP is deeper than typical NEP 2 and he erases you to such a degree"

Neither Side can interact with eachother... Much less kill.