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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

shouldn't dbh characters have concept hax because of this?
Nonexistence Erasure (Passive & Active - Nature Type 1; Aspects Type 2 & 5 - Concepts & History
Not really, EE a nonconceptual void doesn't grant you concept hax, since the concepts is absent and EE the void do not mean you interact with the concept cause it is absent so. You need to EE a conceptual realm to get CM hax, at least
 
im so confused
does universe tree Goku's EE erase someone the moment a fight starts
 
but we never saw goku for example passively erase someone, it took seconds
passive is 0 seconds
It is in the arcade dialogue and scripted fight (kinda like cutscene), manga and anime have limited time so Goku just instantly destroy fu. Also fictions is weird, it doesn't necessary to always showcase passive hax you know
 
It is in the arcade dialogue and scripted fight (kinda like cutscene), manga and anime have limited time so Goku just instantly destroy fu. Also fictions is weird, it doesn't necessary to always showcase passive hax you know
then why does it say on the profile, 'passive and active'
 
then why does it say on the profile, 'passive and active'
Cause they can suppress the power and actively choose what they need to erase, or else the multiverse just go. Literally, Chronoa suppress the ability to passively nullifies how time affect her body because she don't like using it. Also the power both have passive and active abilities, so i just list that it both have passive and active
 
so is it in character for goku to choose passive erasure as the first choice or will he suppress
No, cause in UT Goku case he passive everything, the reason you don't see it is
1. Both Fu and Goku resists each others passive and passively power null each others (by increasing the potency of their Time Power constantly)
2. They are in Crack of Time which have nothing to passive actually, aside from the multiverse, but Tokitoki later restore everything
3. Other allies was protected by Chronoa, as revealed in manga so it left Goku and Fu with the Tree haxing each other to death, until Goku nuke Fu out of existence. Anime and manga have time constraint so Goku just nuke Fu instantly, however in the scripted fight of the arcade, Goku and Fu are scripted to constantly haxing each others and overcome the haxes, if you keep dragging out the fight, when you finishes the fight then Goku delete Fu

Can't post scans cause on phone
 
How is she above DBH? It looks like she justs gets kicked out of existence as soon as the match begins, also arale exists
dbh cant interact with this
Abstract Existence (Type 1; Concept; Sugar Swan embodies Nature, which she created, and her physical forms being an avatar of Nature, like the other Legendary Cookies, each representing their foundational abstract idea) Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Nature is a metaphysical entity that creates the laws and fundamental principles that fuel the world, allowing it to continue to exist, and is also described to be a divine balance, with things like the feeling of coldness and warmth coexisting. Created all concepts and their foundational ideas that govern reality and allows it to exist, as well as a dual system being present.

also she has high godly history regen
 
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dbh cant interact with this
Abstract Existence (Type 1; Concept; Sugar Swan embodies Nature, which she created, and her physical forms being an avatar of Nature, like the other Legendary Cookies, each representing their foundational abstract idea) Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Nature is a metaphysical entity that creates the laws and fundamental principles that fuel the world, allowing it to continue to exist, and is also described to be a divine balance, with things like the feeling of coldness and warmth coexisting. Created all concepts and their foundational ideas that govern reality and allows it to exist, as well as a dual system being present.

also she has high godly history regen
Fair, but three hings
A. Arale exists
B. Arale has layered plot manip
C. DBH may or not get back their type 2 data, so cookie AE won't do much
D. I know for a fact that they won't go above ozriel
 
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Fair, but three hings
A. Arale exists
B. Arale has layered plot manip
C. DBH may or not get back their type 2 data, so cookie AE won't do much
D. I know for a fact that they won't go above ozriel
Bro show me arale fighting
 
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Fair, but three hings
A. Arale exists
B. Arale has layered plot manip
C. DBH may or not get back their type 2 data, so cookie AE won't do much
D. I know for a fact that they won't go above ozriel
Sugar Swan has plot manipulation and resistance to it. She has High-Godly Regen, and Passive EE and Transmutation, Large Size Type 10, Passive Concept Destruction and Creation, Subjective Reality, etc.. Concept Manip type 1 (all concepts) and more. How is he gonna escape passive EE, Transmutation, Deconstruction from someone Large Size Type 10? She can also alter his narrative structure.
 
Sugar Swan has plot manipulation and resistance to it.
Arale plot manip is layered
She has High-Godly Regen
Based on history, which won't protect her from Arale several methods of incap, or DBH future data type 2
Passive EE
Passive data 2 say no
and Transmutation
She has so many ways to deal with that crap it isn't even funny, just to mention some: Plot manip, 4th wall break, data type 2, supernatural luck, toonforce
 
Arale plot manip is layered

Based on history, which won't protect her from Arale several methods of incap, or DBH future data type 2

Passive data 2 say no

She has so many ways to deal with that crap it isn't even funny, just to mention some: Plot manip, 4th wall break, data type 2, supernatural luck, toonforce
What about her counters to her Large Size Type 10? I don't see a way she can bypass it considering the Plot Manip Sugar Swan has and passive abilities. Whats stopping her from conceptually erasing her. She has concept manip type 1 all concepts. If all else fails, which I doubt, she can throw her into a time pocket. timeless and spaceless void that exists outside the multiverse.


Also considering Sugar Swans Passive Fate Manip, which grants her victory as long as she keeps hope. As well as Sugar Swans wish granting stated to grant almost everything. (Cookie Run Wish Festival)
 
Whats stopping her from conceptually erasing her
Super natural luck, layered plot manip, and Data type 2 literally making it so Arale forces Sugar swann to act like she is having an stroke
If all else fails, which I doubt, she can throw her into a time pocket. timeless and spaceless void that exists outside the multiverse.
Arale 4th walls that shit
Also considering Sugar Swans Passive Fate Manip, which grants her victory as long as she keeps hope. As well as Sugar Swans wish granting stated to grant almost everything. (Cookie Run Wish Festival)
To be honest, with the passive fate manip you could argue that an incon exists...Someone should make the matchup
 
Super natural luck, layered plot manip, and Data type 2 literally making it so Arale forces Sugar swann to act like she is having an stroke

Arale 4th walls that shit

To be honest, with the passive fate manip you could argue that an incon exists...Someone should make the matchup
You do realize Cookies literally talk to the Player of the Game and the developers. They got nothing on her.

How is she bypassing Sugar Swans Abstract Existence, High-Godly Regen, thats very hard to kill and considering her Immortality Types 1,4, and 9. Her true body exists is unknown. All her feats are her avatar. We just know her real form is a HDE.
 
You do realize Cookies literally talk to the Player of the Game and the developers. They got nothing on her.
That is cute, but Arale trolls her literal mangaka (I.E. AUTHOR), in a daily basis
How is she bypassing Sugar Swans Abstract Existence, High-Godly Regen, thats very hard to kill and considering her Immortality Types 1,4, and 9. Her true body exists is unknown. All her feats are her avatar. We just know her real form is a HDE.
By incapping?
 
It is nlf to assume arale plot hax can interact with cm 1 when the verse has not shown feats like that
How many times do we have to tell you this old man!!
 
And cm can't also interact with Plot, genius. Tho it doesn't matter since arale has alot...and i mean alot of wincons such as driving others to madness, cause them to feel fear, make them commit self ending of life, or just destroying thier mind and thought bubbles, etc...
It is nlf to assume arale plot hax can interact with cm 1 when the verse has not shown feats like that
How many times do we have to tell you this old man!!
 
No. Read the plot manip page
Regarding No-Limits Fallacies, users cannot simply be assumed to bring out any imaginable effect. They are assumed to be limited in both applications and scale to what they demonstrated or can be reasoned to be capable based of reliable statements. For instance, a character whose plot manipulation can affect concepts, would need to also demonstrate the ability to affect information for them to utilize both in a combat setting. See here for more information regarding this topic.

arales wincon won’t even work because she can’t interact with a cm 1 being
She is interacting with the data of her, not the concepts of her, this is the same reason why Yang inconed kratos
 
She is interacting with the data of her, not the concepts of her, this is the same reason why Yang inconed kratos
Genuinely, how is it bypassing Sugar Swans passive hax at Large Size Type 10 with Passive Fate Manip thats grant her victory.


Arale doesn't even fight. Her layers of plot manip is something the Sugar Swan can resist. Also, The Sugar Swan has higher authority than the Executive Producer of Cookie Run. She resisted an attack that affected the real world Player. Her Plot Manip is also compared to that of the writers.
 
Genuinely, how is it bypassing Sugar Swans passive hax at Large Size Type 10 with Passive Fate Manip thats grant her victory.


Arale doesn't even fight. Her layers of plot manip is something the Sugar Swan can resist. Also, The Sugar Swan has higher authority than the Executive Producer of Cookie Run. She resisted an attack that affected the real world Player. Her Plot Manip is also compared to that of the writers.
Because her type 10 is based on a 5-d structure, and Arale scales to DBH nonesical scaling of size (which starts in a 5-D structure as big as Sugar swans, btw)
 
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