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This should be relatively simple, at least I hope.
Nonduality Type 2 (CM2-Law-Logic-Mythical beings transcends all human concepts, being unaffected by them, along with the law of physics, and logic itself. Mythical beings are neither alive or dead)
Unless there is any evidence of the concepts that he transcendsbeing type 1, then I think he just has Type 2.
Edit:
Resitance to plot should be changed to immunity to plot, because these reasons. Immunity to plot manipulation (Mythical beings trascend the narrative, with Wei huo itself not existing in it to begin).
Going on by what you need to qualify having an immunity, you need to totally lack something to be unaffected by it, and well, Mythical beings literally don't exist on the narrative anymore
Agree:Zaratthustra (All of it, along with conceptual manip type 2, possibly 1), Rikimarox2,Planck69,DarkDragonMedeus,Oblivion_Of_The_Endless




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Neutral:
 
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Rakih you are the chinamen master, and I know you are lurking here, so do something
 
The concepts of the law of physics aren't unique to humans, it is a constant trough the entirety of the universe (or multiverse this time)
Is it in a non-binary state with all the binary systems in the universe?
 
Is it in a non-binary state with all the binary systems in the universe?
Techinically the laws of physics are a binary system, and logic is a binary system (the novel even mentions how he tracends thing like big small, and contradictions).
 
Techinically the laws of physics are a binary system, and logic is a binary system (the novel even mentions how he tracends thing like big small, and contradictions).
Yes, what you said is true, but are all the dualities in the universe dependent on the laws of logic/physics etc. that we mentioned, or are there dualities in the universe that are independent of these? I may be wrong in this part, but I think we can solve this situation with a good explanation from you.
 
Yes, what you said is true, but are all the dualities in the universe dependent on the laws of logic/physics etc. that we mentioned, or are there dualities in the universe that are independent of these? I may be wrong in this part, but I think we can solve this situation with a good explanation from you.
I don't know what you are getting at, because at this point you are just arguing if 5FC has type 1 concepts
 
I don't know what you are getting at, because at this point you are just arguing if 5FC has type 1 concepts
It may seem like it, but I'm just wondering if there's a non-dual state with all the dualities in the universe/multiverse. I'm just curious about that.
 
Damn...didn't even know he had a CRT...been so long gone.

The first link for the scan of "Immunity to plot manipulation" is not working for me. This should be the link for it - Mythical beings have transcended the story.

"Resistance to plot should be changed to immunity to plot" - I have no problem with the change for Wei Huo with the information from just his novel...the current novel of the author connected 4 of his and the whole "plot/story" has become a lot more confusing and "meta". I'll likely make a thread in the future with the changes (one of the novels has an entire narrative set of layers with each floor of a Tower (the cosmos being the tower and the current MC being the one who created it) observing those bellow like a storybook (each floor having a "character" within the story that is transcended by the "author" which at its own is transcended by the "audience". The cosmos of Wei Huo changed a bit too, the Author/Creator/Dreamer of it is just a split personality of the current MC who created it as a way to train himself and Wei Huo still somehow is beyond his conception (was not created by this split personality) and exist independent. There is more an even higher cosmologies but yeah, not worth to mention it now.

Coming back to Wei Huo's novel. His universe (the one where the story happens in most part of the novel), has multiple races, each with their own viewpoints but all come to the same origin at the end (even a Robot from another world who had no idea about the Concept of Yin and Yang, nor Taiji still had created something similar in logic) - ie: space-time being affected by gravity, the same three limits of a being within the universe (Individual Limit - limit of what a race can reach; Biological Limit - limit of what any creature can reach within the universe; Limit of Physics - limit of all laws of the physics of an universe). As it can been in the scans posted by Livinmeme, no matter how advanced science and technology get, they can't surprass the limit of Physics of the said universe (which only Rules do) and how they are beyond human concepts which include Laws that are abstract like Death. There was a Mythical Being who would travel through universes and observe their main laws which shouldn't be necessary if each universe had the same laws of physics as they already can manipulate everything within the universe, and if something doesn't defy the laws then it can't hurt them. They once traveled to another universe whose laws were different and every being was energy based and without adapting it would kill anyone if they aren't of Mythical rank.

The Void Realm is conceptual in nature (more likely it lacks the concepts themselves as its shown here) as it changed by how each being views - if you see it as white then its white, if you see it as black then its black, a world where nothing exist but everything exist just like how a human brain can image all things, all shaped by your own beliefs. Mythological beings can affect it.

The Laws of Physics as it can be seen are transceded by Rules which no physical principle can explain it as they go against reason, ignores principles, and breaks the axioms. Unfortunatelly, the author didn't develop more on how it breaks the axioms, it just mentioned that. Life and Death doesn't matter to them as they are Rules. Knowledge itself can be turned to power through Rules. Time itself is just a concept created by humans which can be manipulated by Mythical beings and likely all other concepts of the same scope/principle as they control all things in the universe. Basically, Mythical Beings exist beyond such concepts as they are Rules themselves, so in a way they are beings that are of higher standing than the human concepts.

I think Mythical Beings should fit for Nonduality Type 2.

Another thing to note is that I think that Mythical Beings should get Conceptual Manipulation based on these things (Type 2) at least as its shown how the laws of the universe are concepts controlled by them which govern the entire reality....maybe Type 1 as Rules transcend and are independend from them (type 2), didacting how they operate as they see fit.
 
Damn...didn't even know he had a CRT...been so long gone.

The first link for the scan of "Immunity to plot manipulation" is not working for me. This should be the link for it - Mythical beings have transcended the story.

"Resistance to plot should be changed to immunity to plot" - I have no problem with the change for Wei Huo with the information from just his novel...the current novel of the author connected 4 of his and the whole "plot/story" has become a lot more confusing and "meta". I'll likely make a thread in the future with the changes (one of the novels has an entire narrative set of layers with each floor of a Tower (the cosmos being the tower and the current MC being the one who created it) observing those bellow like a storybook (each floor having a "character" within the story that is transcended by the "author" which at its own is transcended by the "audience". The cosmos of Wei Huo changed a bit too, the Author/Creator/Dreamer of it is just a split personality of the current MC who created it as a way to train himself and Wei Huo still somehow is beyond his conception (was not created by this split personality) and exist independent. There is more an even higher cosmologies but yeah, not worth to mention it now.

Coming back to Wei Huo's novel. His universe (the one where the story happens in most part of the novel), has multiple races, each with their own viewpoints but all come to the same origin at the end (even a Robot from another world who had no idea about the Concept of Yin and Yang, nor Taiji still had created something similar in logic) - ie: space-time being affected by gravity, the same three limits of a being within the universe (Individual Limit - limit of what a race can reach; Biological Limit - limit of what any creature can reach within the universe; Limit of Physics - limit of all laws of the physics of an universe). As it can been in the scans posted by Livinmeme, no matter how advanced science and technology get, they can't surprass the limit of Physics of the said universe (which only Rules do) and how they are beyond human concepts which include Laws that are abstract like Death. There was a Mythical Being who would travel through universes and observe their main laws which shouldn't be necessary if each universe had the same laws of physics as they already can manipulate everything within the universe, and if something doesn't defy the laws then it can't hurt them. They once traveled to another universe whose laws were different and every being was energy based and without adapting it would kill anyone if they aren't of Mythical rank.

The Void Realm is conceptual in nature (more likely it lacks the concepts themselves as its shown here) as it changed by how each being views - if you see it as white then its white, if you see it as black then its black, a world where nothing exist but everything exist just like how a human brain can image all things, all shaped by your own beliefs. Mythological beings can affect it.

The Laws of Physics as it can be seen are transceded by Rules which no physical principle can explain it as they go against reason, ignores principles, and breaks the axioms. Unfortunatelly, the author didn't develop more on how it breaks the axioms, it just mentioned that. Life and Death doesn't matter to them as they are Rules. Knowledge itself can be turned to power through Rules. Time itself is just a concept created by humans which can be manipulated by Mythical beings and likely all other concepts of the same scope/principle as they control all things in the universe. Basically, Mythical Beings exist beyond such concepts as they are Rules themselves, so in a way they are beings that are of higher standing than the human concepts.

I think Mythical Beings should fit for Nonduality Type 2.

Another thing to note is that I think that Mythical Beings should get Conceptual Manipulation based on these things (Type 2) at least as its shown how the laws of the universe are concepts controlled by them which govern the entire reality....maybe Type 1 as Rules transcend and are independend from them (type 2), didacting how they operate as they see fit.
I kowtow to this venerable, for humoring this junior (thanks for resurrecting this thread that even I had forgotten about it)
 
The current MC of the shared verse became a cosmic horror which devours worlds across the Cosmic Axis (higher reality above the Consciousness Universe [the true multiverse]) to complete his path to reach beyond the Ultimate Realm as he masteres the 6 Origins (Space, Time, Matter, Energy, Soul and Life). The realms above Mythologic being are Half-Saint, Saint, Ultimate (1 to 6 Origins), and Beyond (not yet named).

Anyway a bump.
 
@Livinmeme, mention that he also gets resistance to it from the first key as he already got the resistance to Rules so if Conceptual is agreed upon then it will add that too.
 
The author just suddenly ended the current book... bruh, felt like it would have needed 30-50 more chapters. The other MCs like Wei Huo's plot were left not finished. While the current MC just rushed to Transcendence. Sad.

Guess just 2 possible keys in the future for Wei Huo. Saint and Ultimate Realm.

Bump.
 
Thanks. So all people to be on the same page the changes are:

Immunity to Plot Manipulation.

Nonduality Type 2 (CM2-Law-Logic) or type 1
if its accepted that the Rules fit for Concept Type 1.

Conceptulal manipulation and resistance type 2 or 1 for Mythical beings (Wei Huo). For him it will be from the first key (the resistance aspect, while the offensive will scale fully from Mythic key and the Legendary key will also get through items) which progressively gets stronger as pointed above.

I would be thankful if you guys mention which CM type you agree with - type 1 or 2.
 
Can I get a reason on why Rules are Type 1?

Other than that, everything else seems fine.
Within the verse the laws of physics are treated as concepts (Time, Space, Death, etc). While Rules are independent and transcend them.

His universe (the one where the story happens in most part of the novel), has multiple races, each with their own viewpoints but all come to the same origin at the end (even a Robot from another world who had no idea about the Concept of Yin and Yang, nor Taiji still had created something similar in logic) - ie: space-time being affected by gravity, the same three limits of a being within the universe (Individual Limit - limit of what a race can reach; Biological Limit - limit of what any creature can reach within the universe; Limit of Physics - limit of all laws of the physics of an universe). As it can been in the scans posted by Livinmeme, no matter how advanced science and technology get, they can't surprass the limit of Physics of the said universe (which only Rules do) and how they are beyond human concepts which include Laws that are abstract like Death. There was a Mythical Being who would travel through universes and observe their main laws which shouldn't be necessary if each universe had the same laws of physics as they already can manipulate everything within the universe, and if something doesn't defy the laws then it can't hurt them. They once traveled to another universe whose laws were different and every being was energy based and without adapting it would kill anyone if they aren't of Mythical rank.

The Void Realm is conceptual in nature (more likely it lacks the concepts themselves as its shown here) as it changed by how each being views - if you see it as white then its white, if you see it as black then its black, a world where nothing exist but everything exist just like how a human brain can image all things, all shaped by your own beliefs. Mythological beings can affect it.

The Laws of Physics as it can be seen are transceded by Rules which no physical principle can explain it as they go against reason, ignores principles, and breaks the axioms. Unfortunatelly, the author didn't develop more on how it breaks the axioms, it just mentioned that. Life and Death doesn't matter to them as they are Rules. Knowledge itself can be turned to power through Rules. Time itself is just a concept created by humans which can be manipulated by Mythical beings and likely all other concepts of the same scope/principle as they control all things in the universe. Basically, Mythical Beings exist beyond such concepts as they are Rules themselves, so in a way they are beings that are of higher standing than the human concepts.
 
So, we got three votes till now (Rikimarox2, Plack and mine). Should be enough...maybe.

Anyway, i'll phrase tonight how it should look on the profile the reasonings for the additions and post them here using the above mentioned statements.
 
Sure. Been busy and I kinda forget I had to mention how it would look on the profile.

Nonduality (Type 2 - CM1, Law, Logic -Mythical beings transcends all human concepts, being unaffected by them, along with the law of physics that are treated as concepts themselves, including logic itself as just Rules can do so; If something doesn't defy the the laws of physics it can't affect them at all, including these different laws of different universe. Mythical beings are neither alive or dead)

Immunity-Plot Manipulation (Mythical beings transcend the narrative, while Wei Huo itself not existing in it to begin)

Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1 - Mythical beings can manipulate all laws of physics which are treated as concepts even those abstract like time and death thanks to their Rules that are independent and transcend notions like physical laws, reason, ignoring principles, and breaking the axioms; Even knowledge can be turned into power through them)
Rare Key: Wei Huo, thanks to his special situation of not being affected by any Rule of the Creator of his verse then it should get full resistance or immunity from this key, while with each key getting more resilient if its not accepted as Immunity.​
Epic Key: Just improved resistance.​
Legendary Key: Power but also Resistance through Rule Items that Wei Huo posses.​
Mythical Key: Power but also Resistance as beings of his level can resist/manipulate Rules as mentioned above.​
Another thing to note is that he should have Non-Physical Interaction (Laws, Concepts Type 1, and Nondual Type 2 beings), thanks to being able to interact with such beings through Items in the Legendary Key while in Mythical Key through his own powers.
 
Somehow the author's new novel got deleted from Qidian after he posted 18 chapters...hmm.

Also, bump
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I'll apply the changes and this thread can be closed.
 
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