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Chinamen Nonduality

Because it's doesn't extend to all logical negations.
It exists beyond the logic value of existence and non existence as another thing, that is why they don't group supernaturality as being another ramification of existence and nonexistence but something completely different.
 
It exists beyond the logic value of existence and non existence as another thing, that is why they don't group supernaturality as being another ramification of existence and nonexistence but something completely different.
It would be NEP Type 2, and supernatural is never really expanded upon.
 
It would be NEP Type 2, and supernatural is never really expanded upon.
Yeah but then add the fact that Lu already is beyond the duality nonsense by virtue of being literally outside of the thing that contains all of it, you could probably wank it as
1. Reality
2. Non reality
3. Supernaturality
4. Lu
And that is not even mentioning how it is INBETWEEN the states of reality, nonreality and supernaturality https://gyazo.com/e77f237f446a7f73e06fdbc386a9fecb
Given the connotation of how it is speaked, it is very clear that it is another type of existence
 
Yeah but then add the fact that Lu already is beyond the duality nonsense by virtue of being literally outside of the thing that contains all of it, you could probably wank it as
1. Reality
2. Non reality
3. Supernaturality
4. Lu
He's still only outside of one logical negation; you need to be outside of all of them for Type 2.
 
He's still only outside of one logical negation; you need to be outside of all of them for Type 2.
Supernaturality IS another type of logic, that is why I mentioned it isn't just logical negations of the type of existences but clearly defined as its own, and that is not even counting the another type of logic that is the existence between the three states. Yian tian got something similar because of that.
 
Supernaturality IS another type of logic, that is why I mentioned it isn't just logical negations of the type of existences but clearly defined as its own, and that is not even counting the another type of logic that is the existence between the three states.
It still wouldn't be Type 2.

Even assuming Reality, Illusion, and Supernaturality is a Three-State System, unless there is evidence in encomapsses every other dual logical state, it's not Type 2.
Yian tian got something similar because of that.
No, it didn't.
 
Also the explanation doesn't mention it but there is already another type of inbetween logic
1. Reality
2. unreality
3. Between reality and illusion (the page mentions that it is actually unreality, probably because it is just something that was expaned later)
4. Supernaturality
5. Between reality, unreality and illusion.
 
Even assuming Reality, Illusion, and Supernaturality is a Three-State System, unless there is evidence in encomapsses every other dual logical state, it's not Type 2.
Well I mean lu gets its PP beacuse of the zero dimensional wich is literally encompassing all of the previous logical states, and basically all of the cosmology except for lu (which he sees as fiction)
 
Well I mean lu gets its PP beacuse of the zero dimensional wich is literally encompassing all of the previous logical states, and basically all of the cosmology except for lu (which he sees as fiction)
It was already mentioned earlier in the thread he "could" keep PP, it would just be Type 1.
 
Also the explanation doesn't mention it but there is already another type of inbetween logic
1. Reality
2. unreality
3. Between reality and illusion (the page mentions that it is actually unreality, probably because it is just something that was expaned later)
4. Supernaturality
5. Between reality, unreality and illusion.
I don't know why your explaining it to me, like I didn't add this verse to the wiki 😭
 
It was already mentioned earlier in the thread he "could" keep PP, it would just be Type 1.
Dude, the thing is that nondual is literally a compressed zero dimensional conceptual nonexistent dot that is beyond those dualities by virtue of existing prior to their creation, it takes alot of mental gymnastics to say that the thing that encompasses and gives form to those dualities don't even encompasses it. In the verse in its most absolute form, no, not everything, something trascendental which gave birth to those states (atleast 5 btw).
 
Still PP1 via existence and nonexistence only, you need a lot of evidence to others are logical duality
 
Still PP1 via existence and nonexistence only, you need a lot of evidence to others are logical duality
I assume having True and False as a duality in the verse would kind of already qualify you for PP1-2 immediately if you go beyond them or smth?
 
I assume having True and False as a duality in the verse would kind of already qualify you for PP1-2 immediately if you go beyond them or smth?
PP1 is oke, though i think if you have proof that True abd False encompasses all thing in the verse then you can go for PP2
 
PP1 is oke, though i think if you have proof that True abd False encompasses all thing in the verse then you can go for PP2
Its definitely pp2 like with "is" and "is not" because true and false are all encompassing inherently. The whole point of propositions is based on values of true and false (im a bit drunk rn so sorry i focused extra hard to make it coherent)
 
Its definitely pp2 like with "is" and "is not" because true and false are all encompassing inherently. The whole point of propositions is based on values of true and false (im a bit drunk rn so sorry)
Dude what, you are drunk from drinking tea?

Anyway, definitely depend on context but well, whatever to me i guess
 
Still PP1 via existence and nonexistence only, you need a lot of evidence to others are logical duality
No you only need proof the others are other types of logical existences, You get other types of binary existences via contradictories dualities and either embodying them at the same time, or none of them. Like do you know that many logical value systems even mean?
 
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