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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Passersby said:
understandable

well, gotta go now, i have a headache from arguing all day, i should probably dial down talking to people online and read some books to relax, so much for enjoying my first day of summer vacation lol

see ya all
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Have a good one, if you want to have an actual speed discussion hmu later. I'm probably somewhere in the middle but am also busy a lot so it may took a bit to respond.
 
I'm not optimistic so as to think FTL is likely to be accepted, but using the timeframes stated throughout Sukuna v. Gojo is silly because those don't do any good for even subsonic to hypersonic, let alone MHS/+ lmao
 
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Ye quit powerscaling. You're not built for it.
Also not supersonic? Yeah you're lost. You clearly haven't read the series nor are you able to comprehend something as basic as gojo being able to blitz Toji with every set of his movement, that literally puts the idea of him and Sukuna not fighting at supersonic speeds for some reason (that's the lowest you can get but you got lower then that lmfao) in the garbage can for how objectively false it is.
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You talk a big game bud, but wheres the crt at?
 
M3X_2.0 said:
It’s so funny how all JJK speed blitz calcs works the same.

They all are fine with measurements, distances etc. Then comes the completely non sense highballed timeframe with wonky justifications.
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I made three different ends lol.

And despiste being forced to make the calc, I don't think that the highend is THAT absurd tbh
 
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Ryomen Sukuna

Ryomen Sukuna (両りょう面めん 宿すく儺な, Ryōmen Sukuna?) is a mighty sorcerer known as the King of Curses (呪のろいの王おう, Noroi no Ō?). He is one of the primary antagonists of Jujutsu Kaisen. According to a legend, during the Golden Age Of Jujutsu over a thousand years ago, Sukuna was an Imaginary Demon...
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I did it
 
Just want to note that If this can be accepted but the Mach 3 statement not, I shall fight for my rights to wank
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
The first ideia was to calc the ratio between the speed of the blocks and Sukuna's run, since they were basically in slow motion, but then I realized that people would have a lot of problems with it + the perspective is horrible + theres no legit speed for the blocks
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Now that I think about it, the distance may be a bit off since Maki ran up to kick one of the blocks she sliced up towards Sukuna so she wouldn't have been in the position you used to get the distance. You may have to figure out the distance between Sukuna and the pillars then add in Maki's distance from that from the panel where she kicked it. The angles should be decent enough where it's possible I think

Does this change the fact that the result is still gonna be like subsonic to subsonic+ for the low and mid end and thus just another calc to add on tot he like 20 we already have? No but eh
 
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I’m not sure if this was ever discussed here or in the story before, so I’m sorry if this was already covered, but how differently do you think the Zenin Massacre would’ve gone if Naobito was there?
Like, say he wasn’t hurt that badly or at all after Shibuya, so he was back in the estate all up and running again just in time for Mai to succ Maki’s CE and complete her HR.
Would the Zenin be able to put Maki down if Naobito was part of the jumping?
 
idk if i should be that guy and point out the fact that naoya is turning narrowly and thus would be losing a lot of speed so her outpacing/dodging him after that point is probably him not moving at maximum speed, she was also explicitly dodging by predicting where he'll move by reading the world, since pre-reading the world she couldn't dodge
 
well, anyways, on other news, since sukuna was in megumi's body and yorozu wanted to marry sukuna after she defeats/kills him would that count as incest or nah

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Passersby said:
minor detail, minor details, just need an answer
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Uhh, well… I guess… For Sukuna and Yorozu, no; for Megumi and Tsumiki who are still in their bodies and presumably feel everything, yes.

Megumi and Tsumiki are step siblings, so there’s no inbreeding that would deter Sukuna and Yorozu (not like they’d care though, I guess), and even if there was, they could just incarnate and move along. Megumi and Tsumiki are still step siblings though, so if killing Gojo wasn’t enough for Megumi to summon Big Raga to kill himself, this would.

Then again, Gege’s kinda had a sus track record with the Zenins. Depending on how you wanna read that scene, Tsumiki could be Megumi’s ideal type, and in the databook they (Gege) said that either Maki (💀) or Megumi was possibly Mai’s first love.
 
Arkenis said:
You talk a big game bud, but wheres the crt at?
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So you think they're below supersonic when fighting? 🤣 I need you to be real with me.
If so please quit powerscaling as well. Many mf's in VSBW when it comes to jjk speed scale probably did some Potara fusion with quora + SpaceBattle's and ComicVine to even have such level of dogshit logic low key 😭 cuz this shit is wild.
But when it comes to other series people become more normal 👍
 
GoldExPoints said:
Uhh, well… I guess… For Sukuna and Yorozu, no; for Megumi and Tsumiki who are still in their bodies and presumably feel everything, yes.

Megumi and Tsumiki are step siblings, so there’s no inbreeding that would deter Sukuna and Yorozu (not like they’d care though, I guess), and even if there was, they could just incarnate and move along. Megumi and Tsumiki are still step siblings though, so if killing Gojo wasn’t enough for Megumi to summon Big Raga to kill himself, this would.

Then again, Gege’s kinda had a sus track record with the Zenins. Depending on how you wanna read that scene, Tsumiki could be Megumi’s ideal type, and in the databook they (Gege) said that either Maki (💀) or Megumi was possibly Mai’s first love.
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Actual shitposter
 
how many here genuinely think gojo and Sukuna aren't at the worst low ball fighting at supersonic speed levels but rather below that. I need some answers
 
Passersby said:
idk if i should be that guy and point out the fact that naoya is turning narrowly and thus would be losing a lot of speed so her outpacing/dodging him after that point is probably him not moving at maximum speed, she was also explicitly dodging by predicting where he'll move by reading the world, since pre-reading the world she couldn't dodge
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While that's true of the real world we typically ignore things like that for calcs, and internal universe logic. Naoya losing large amounts of speed would be something he would note, and would also be the point of blame for why he isn't hitting her over it being some big mystery he can't figure out. Especially if the large amounts of speed he's losing drops him to at or below his original max speed which Maki can deal with.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
how many here genuinely think gojo and Sukuna aren't at the worst low ball fighting at supersonic speed levels but rather below that. I need some answers
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I think there's a lot to argue for the pair being faster. We have thanks to Gojo confirmation that his perception/reaction speed is enough to hit the window of the blackflash with no issue so at least MHS+ reaction speed, the likes of Naoya being unable to even tag a Maki who was supposed to be equal to Toji where Gojo could do so as a Teen and even Blitzed with a Hollow Purple (if we don't give Hollow Purple some weird speed), and Sukuna could dodge and intercept a lightspeed attack (even as an outlier still would put him above Mach 3). The only thing that potentially holds these two back is Sukuna usage of Piercing Blood, but there's an argument that there isn't a ceiling to how fast it can get, the Toji stuff helps answer that, and time and time again Sukuna has dodged Piercing Blood at all but point blank range something which Kenjaku also treated as no problem.
 
Duedate8898 said:
I think there's a lot to argue for the pair being faster. We have thanks to Gojo confirmation that his perception/reaction speed is enough to hit the window of the blackflash with no issue so at least MHS+ reaction speed, the likes of Naoya being unable to even tag a Maki who was supposed to be equal to Toji where Gojo could do so as a Teen and even Blitzed with a Hollow Purple (if we don't give Hollow Purple some weird speed), and Sukuna could dodge and intercept a lightspeed attack (even as an outlier still would put him above Mach 3). The only thing that potentially holds these two back is Sukuna usage of Piercing Blood, but there's an argument that there isn't a cieling to how fast it can get, the Toji stuff helps answer that, and time and time again Sukuna has dodged Piercing Blood at all but point blank range something which Kenjaku also treated as no problem.
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Yeah PB is dependent on CE reinforcement. And yeah gojo did blitz toji with his charge up for purple etc. (Which as we know is the slowest move to pull off. Manifest red and blue. Build up proper CE. Then fuse it and then fire it off. Toji was completely frozen in that scene when he was doing this.)

But what I asked is HOW many people genuinely think that gojo and Sukuna moving around, punching etc or reacting (reaction speed) is barely supersonic or below.
 
Would Takaba creating the weird Fanta Sea thing in 242 yield anything decent?
 
Da3ggman said:
Would Takaba creating the weird Fanta Sea thing in 242 yield anything decent?
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For himself maybe?
Arkenis said:
Its not real and nor would it apply to scaling.
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It's real. Otherwise Takaba wouldn't be able to one-shot the special grade like he did against Kenjaku, or Kenjaku wouldn't be able to interact with it as he does. It just isn't really applicable for scaling
 
Duedate8898 said:
It's real. Otherwise Takaba wouldn't be able to one-shot the special grade like he did against Kenjaku, or Kenjaku wouldn't be able to interact with it as he does. It just isn't really applicable for scaling
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Its not real, its all a simulation, the damage may be real but the creations aren’t. And really? These characters use ce and interact with abstract and mental stuff already, interacting with simulations isn’t out of the question
 
I think you're not understanding what it means for it to be a simulation. This isn't a fight taking place in either of their heads. Even as a simulation, Takaba is actually creating things with the comedian. While the scenarios are all made up as simulations, the contents of these simulations are physical things as Takaba and Kenjaku are physically present throughout them
 
Duedate8898 said:
I think you're not understanding what it means for it to be a simulation. This isn't a fight taking place in either of their heads. Even as a simulation, Takaba is actually creating things with the comedian. While the scenarios are all made up as simulations, the contents of these simulations are physical things as Takaba and Kenjaku are physically present throughout them
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No one said in the head, I’m talking about them being temporary manifestations. Same way domains are temporary and we dont scale those either.
 
Duedate8898 said:
While that's true of the real world we typically ignore things like that for calcs
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..uh,you ignore logic for calcs?
Duedate8898 said:
and internal universe logic. Naoya losing large amounts of speed would be something he would note, and would also be the point of blame for why he isn't hitting her over it being some big mystery he can't figure out.
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doesn't exactly mean much, in universe we're explicitly told that he needs a long time and a lot of distance to build up speed and he was only stated to reach mach 3 when making a really long and straight bullrush, at no other point is he actually stated to be maintaining his maximum speed, him being suprised he can't hit her anymore really has nothing to do with it
Duedate8898 said:
Especially if the large amounts of speed he's losing drops him to at or below his original max speed which maki can deal with.
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which the previous maki may have struggled with and maybe even been unable to dodge, but post reading the world maki now actually could, idk why you're even assuming he is constantly at max speed, that not only doesn't make a lick of sens the narrative never implied it


not like anyone here is gonna agree anyways
 
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