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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Trying to get Super perfect cell from 47x above baseline to below baseline because of a Kamehameha is imho, on the level of ridiculousness that was the 5C tien saga
from what I've read in different threads he consistently tries to go against the well established UES of dragon ball
 
I wonder if Toriyama had plans for future stories featuring Zalama, and if future writers will exactly follow his existing notes regarding that.
Hopefully daima goes through this.

Dragon ball is very notorious for introducing characters and realms and then acting like they don't exist
 
from what I've read in different threads he consistently tries to go against the well established UES of dragon ball
Well, whatever he and KT decide, I have tried my best there.


Btw do you happen to have the scan where kachi katchin is called the strongest/most durable material?
 
I wonder if Toriyama had plans for future stories featuring Zalama, and if future writers will exactly follow his existing notes regarding that.
Maybe? The first and only time we ever heard of Zalama was when Zuno told Bulma and Jaco about the history of the Super Dragon Balls during the Universe 6 arc, no other mentions since that point in time. Now mind you, I don't deny the possibility that Toriyama might've had something planned before he passed away...but Toriyama was someone who would introduce a very interesting concept and not really explore much of it after the fact.

If Zalama were to become a thing in Dragon Ball, I would honestly see it happening in non canon media like Heroes or the games before he shows up in canon.
 
Well, whatever he and KT decide, I have tried my best there.


Btw do you happen to have the scan where kachi katchin is called the strongest/most durable material?
yeah ngl just seems like a desperate attempt to fish downgrades by denying basic UES mechanics.

I miss when topaz schooled him in that 5-C thread lol
 
Got a question for you lads and ladies here on the thread: What's a fight from the series, canon or otherwise, that you think is underrated or at least doesn't get much as appreciation as you feel it should get?



My pick would be Base Goku vs Final Form Frieza in the RoF movie. It's a somewhat shorter fight, but the fight choreography and the animation are some of the best in the series. And on top of this, seeing Goku fending off Frieza so calmly and without taking any blows is just awesome.
 
Got a question for you lads and ladies here on the thread: What's a fight from the series, canon or otherwise, that you think is underrated or at least doesn't get much as appreciation as you feel it should get?



My pick would be Base Goku vs Final Form Frieza in the RoF movie. It's a somewhat shorter fight, but the fight choreography and the animation are some of the best in the series. And on top of this, seeing Goku fending off Frieza so calmly and without taking any blows is just awesome.

My pick is prolly GT Goku vs Ledgic



Or GT Goku vs Baby Gohan and Baby Goten
 
Trying to get Super perfect cell from 47x above baseline to below baseline because of a Kamehameha is imho, on the level of ridiculousness that was the 5C tien saga
I have to be brutally honest but that thread is why this site has its reputation. The same group of people pushing the same type of argument that leads to downgrades then playing coy when someone points it out.

It's already a thread with a ridiculous basis, but it's really hard to tell people to 'trust the system' and stuff like that when this stuff goes through. Lost a lot of respect for quite a few people lol, some of which I didn't expect losing respect for
 
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I have to be brutally honest but that thread is why this site has its reputation. The same group of people pushing the same type of argument that leads to downgrades then playing coy when someone points it out.
If you think this site has a reputation of people lowballing fictional characters then I encourage you to visit more places where this site is discussed. From my experience it is usually the opposite.
 
My pick is prolly GT Goku vs Ledgic


GT had some very underrated fights to be honest. But I prefer watching GT with the subbed version not because of the English voice actors, those are solid, but because of the god awful music found in the dub.

I like rock in Dragon Ball, being a fan of the English dubs of the Z era movies because of that, but something about GT's usage of the genre is just complete trash IMO. The Japanese OST>American OST
 
I have to be brutally honest but that thread is why this site has its reputation. The same group of people pushing the same type of argument that leads to downgrades then playing coy when someone points it out.

It's already a thread with a ridiculous basis, but it's really hard to tell people to 'trust the system' and stuff like that when this stuff goes through. Lost a lot of respect for quite a few people lol, some of which I didn't expect losing respect for
Well, just like the tien thread, I am sure this will be fixed back to normal in the future as well after the same 3 sets of people are done.
 
If you think this site has a reputation of people lowballing fictional characters then I encourage you to visit more places where this site is discussed. From my experience it is usually the opposite.
Going to be brutally honest and say this is the most out of touch reply that could've been given.

From my experience, which is a lot because I lurk in every corner possible, what you just said is not remotely true.
 
Going to be brutally honest and say this is the most out of touch reply that could've been given.

From my experience, which is a lot because I lurk in every corner possible, what you just said is not remotely true.
I suppose we may just be looking in completely different circles, but regardless I'm not going to let people complaining about downgrades to discourage me from trying to tackle all of the areas that I think are flawed.

Well, just like the tien thread, I am sure this will be fixed back to normal in the future as well after the same 3 sets of people are done.
Well, nothing is ever set in stone, that much is true.
 
We all know complaining doesn't the blatant attempts at downgrades framed in whatever way, but I'm no longer enthused to tell people to behave when doing so, not calling out people with clear agendas, has down so much damage to the verse. Not going to encourage anyone to behave in ways they shouldn't, but good faith has been obliterated.
 
Got a question for you lads and ladies here on the thread: What's a fight from the series, canon or otherwise, that you think is underrated or at least doesn't get much as appreciation as you feel it should get?



My pick would be Base Goku vs Final Form Frieza in the RoF movie. It's a somewhat shorter fight, but the fight choreography and the animation are some of the best in the series. And on top of this, seeing Goku fending off Frieza so calmly and without taking any blows is just awesome.

While i don´t think it is underrated, the Piccolo VS Android 17 fight should be more appreciated imo
 
I have to be brutally honest but that thread is why this site has its reputation. The same group of people pushing the same type of argument that leads to downgrades then playing coy when someone points it out.

It's already a thread with a ridiculous basis, but it's really hard to tell people to 'trust the system' and stuff like that when this stuff goes through. Lost a lot of respect for quite a few people lol, some of which I didn't expect losing respect for
I kind of agree with this, it would be good if we had some new people as admin and moderators to change this.
 
I kind of agree with this, it would be good if we had some new people as admin and moderators to change this.
Nothing stopping you from setting up your own wiki where you're Admins and Moderators too so you can set the ratings as whatever you'd like.
 
Gonna be honest, if Solar Kamehameha unironicaaly scales above SSJ3 Goku let alone Vegito here, I will laugh for a good minute cause that is something else.
 
If you think this site has a reputation of people lowballing fictional characters then I encourage you to visit more places where this site is discussed. From my experience it is usually the opposite.
Damage, for a while the site has had a reputation of what people say is downplaying [insert character/series here]. Going "just visit more places" doesn't help or change anything.
 
Gonna be honest, if Solar Kamehameha unironicaaly scales above SSJ3 Goku let alone Vegito here, I will laugh for a good minute cause that is something else.
Nah there’s nothing plenty of evidence to say at least the buu saga SSJ2s scale even if the charged argument prevails.
 
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