Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[karo_senpaii]

What about base Naruto~Fused Momo>Kaguya>shippuden, nonsense that goes around? That doesn't make sense, we see Naruto entering So6P and later using all of his chakra to the point, he can't stand anymore to kill a weakened version of him in "base". Also base Naruto~Kaguya means Kaguya is fodder, but narrativly she isn't

Base ~fused momo is on a very very low end. Personally I never agreed with this scalling. I always felt the anime portrayed it better than the manga. That momo the proud dude that he is wasn't immediately going all out in his fused state. Especially since he powered up so much he could blitz and one shot the 4 kage. So like he thought base naruto won't be any much different and wasn't going all out. And like the anime portrayed this like the way momo was showing off moved he had like he was trying to show "yeah I'm that guy". But then switch to six path with sasuke and bro suddenly realised he was getting pummelled . I think base~base momo makes more sense.
Oh by the way base naruto ~fused momo is like only for physicals. There is a pretty glaring gap between naruto physicals(outside his avatar) and his jutsu. Like see how his odaama rasengan in base was as potent or if not more potent than his six path physicals .
And to sum it up. Yes as an adult naruto base and six path are not so much far apart like when he was a teen. Makes sense due to chakra control coz even in base he should have six path chakra flowing through him

 

[Veronica]

Base ~fused momo is on a very very low end. Personally I never agreed with this scalling. I always felt the anime portrayed it better than the manga. That momo the proud dude that he is wasn't immediately going all out in his fused state. Especially since he powered up so much he could blitz and one shot the 4 kage. So like he thought base naruto won't be any much different and wasn't going all out. And like the anime portrayed this like the way momo was showing off moved he had like he was trying to show "yeah I'm that guy". But then switch to six path with sasuke and bro suddenly realised he was getting pummelled . I think base~base momo makes more sense.
Oh by the way base naruto ~fused momo is like only for physicals. There is a pretty glaring gap between naruto physicals(outside his avatar) and his jutsu. Like see how his odaama rasengan in base was as potent or if not more potent than his six path physicals .
And to sum it up. Yes as an adult naruto base and six path are not so much far apart like when he was a teen. Makes sense due to chakra control coz even in base he should have six path chakra flowing through him

base Momo slapped him around and forced him to use So6P. Also a flew blows doesn't make you par on someone otherwise the fodder ninjas are on Madara's level.

 

[karo_senpaii]

base Momo slapped him around and forced him to use So6P. Also a flew blows doesn't make you par on someone otherwise the fodder ninjas are on Madara's level.

Did we watch the same show? Base momo kicked naruto off guard once. he came back totally fine. And then momo tried to destroy the village which naruto protected.

 

[Veronica]

Did we watch the same show? Base momo kicked naruto off guard once. he came back totally fine. And then momo tried to destroy the village which naruto protected.

Yeah, not in base, otherwise base Naruto would have stomped him, if he is ~Fused momo in base.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Yeah, not in base, otherwise base Naruto would have stomped him, if he is ~Fused momo in base.

Explain how he is gonna save the whole village from getting vaporised if he remains in base? The whole point of him going six path that moment was not because he didn't think he could handle momo in base but because in base he'd win but lost lost the people there would be dead from the mere clash of their fight or shockwave from the jutsu.
Also base momo ninjustu is greater than his physicals. We rightly scale as such. Momo ninjustu is above base naruto physicals. It's pretty clear cut. Naruto ninjustu is then above momo in it's entirely

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

It's not steam release. Steam release has specific visual ques, the second time Naruto pierces through Kaguya's attack is just thanks to Kurama giving him some extra Chakra.

You can’t claim its not Steam Rlease when Naruto is still in Steam Release in the same panel he creates the Clones. Not to mention “Kurama” giving Naruto more Chakra is irrelevant as even 100% Kurama is insignificant to the level of Six Paths Chakra at play here.

Again, to suggest Kurama’s Chakra enabled Naruto to do what he did is nonsensical when Naruto just prior to this trying his BEST was overpowered and dispatched.

Naruto ONLY showed to overpower the 80VP with SR and the clones were created while he was influenced by SR.

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

but because in base he'd win

This is the only thing I disagree with from you. Base naruto is not winning against base momo. Takamimusubinokami prevents base naruto from using jutsu restricting him to purely taijustu and although base naruto physicals is superior to base momo physicals unlike base naruto, base momo can actually use his ninjutsu and you said it yourself:

Momo ninjustu is above base naruto physicals

Base momo restrains base nardo with shadow paralysis technique and defeats him with tbb, there are also the rods too. Base momo has more wincons than base nardo. I think nardo beats base momo from sage mode upwards but definitely not base.

 

[Padaruyos]

Do you guys think Kurama Sage Mode Naruto can solo the Akatsuki? And by Akatsuki I mean the iconic Pre-War Arc guys (Orange Mask Obito is included).

BSM Naruto is insanely overkill lmao.

Each Akatsuki member would have to deal with at least one High 6-B Naruto clones.

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

Jigen really changed the powerscaling in the verse while going through boruto again, I just realized that base jigen actually cooks base momo

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Probably.

prob but Obito would still be a hard fight just because how annoying Kamui is as an ability.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Jigen really changed the powerscaling in the verse while going through boruto again, I just realized that base jigen actually cooks base momo

Delta is Physically comparable to like fused momo let alone Jigen

 

[Padaruyos]

prob but Obito would still be a hard fight just because how annoying Kamui is as an ability.

The moment Obito sucked a Naruto clone in his kamui dimension he is toast.

 

[Testarossa002]

Jigen really changed the powerscaling in the verse while going through boruto again, I just realized that base jigen actually cooks base momo

Doesn't matter to the strongest

 

[Veronica]

Jigen really changed the powerscaling in the verse while going through boruto again, I just realized that base jigen actually cooks base momo

Base Jigen is below So6P power and barely matched them with ten tails with in karma

 

[Kayzz]

Shouldn't the Sage treasured tools be giving conceptual manipulation for 'status effecting people/entities' by interacting/manipulating their 'word souls'?

 

[karo_senpaii]

This is the only thing I disagree with from you. Base naruto is not winning against base momo. Takamimusubinokami prevents base naruto from using jutsu restricting him to purely taijustu and although base naruto physicals is superior to base momo physicals unlike base naruto, base momo can actually use his ninjutsu and you said it yourself:

Base momo restrains base nardo with shadow paralysis technique and defeats him with tbb, there are also the rods too. Base momo has more wincons than base nardo. I think nardo beats base momo from sage mode upwards but definitely not base.

I don't think you got what I was trying to say. "Naruto didn’t transform because he thought he couldn't win, in base he'd win" I was talking from nard pov like he didn’t know momo absorbs ninjustu until the second encounter that boruto told him. When he was absorbing boruto ninjustu naruto wasn’t there so he didn't know.
If you read the rest of what I said you'd know I mean base naruto is above base momo physically but momo ninjustu is higher so he'd most likely win

 

[karo_senpaii]

Base Jigen is below So6P power and barely matched them with ten tails with in karma

Man said barely. We calling beating the bricks out of them barely? Even V1 jigen would have beaten them 1 v 1 without their avatars.
But yeah base jigen is below spsm naruto obviously, not by much though

 

[Veronica]

Man said barely. We calling beating the bricks out of them barely? Even V1 jigen would have beaten them 1 v 1 without their avatars.
But yeah base jigen is below spsm naruto obviously, not by much though

He landed physically only one hit and when cornered by them, he teleported away and went straight karma2

 

[Padaruyos]

Lowkey I think V1 Jigen would've been cooked once the two bust their avatars.

 

[BlastX]

BSM Naruto is insanely overkill lmao.

Each Akatsuki member would have to deal with at least one High 6-B Naruto clones.

Honestly it's the comments on that video that inspired me to ask it because the amount of people I seen that think Akatsuki takes this gave me brain damage

 

[karo_senpaii]

He landed physically only one hit and when cornered by them, he teleported away and went straight karma2

No you watched a different fight. He kicked and punched the living hell out of them right after doing justice to dozens of shadow clones with similar ap to naruto.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Lowkey I think V1 Jigen would've been cooked once the two bust their avatars.

It's not lowkey no way V1 jigen takes both of them in their avatars. Individually he would still have had an extremely hard time in V1

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I know he isn't using all. But I'd say that cloaked form seems to be kurama special ability. No other jinjuriki had this form not even killer bee.
And like you can't say naruto can't use it instinctively. That means he has a skill issue

Roshi has a sorta similar thing with LCM. And I think that SPSM Naruto's cloak is kinda a pseudo Juubi cloak since it's so visually different and has SPS markings.

Cause he's not used to the other Bijuus' powers.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Man said barely. We calling beating the bricks out of them barely? Even V1 jigen would have beaten them 1 v 1 without their avatars.
But yeah base jigen is below spsm naruto obviously, not by much though

What makes Base Momo Ninjutsu Stronger in your opinion? Base Naruto as we all know overpowered his Fused State Ninjutsu and if is that Momo damaged their avatars, It’s not a fair comparison because Naruto’s Ninjutsu never got the chance to have such a feat, but we do know SPSM actively dodges his Bases Ninjutsu via the Delta fight, so there’s that.

 

[Mamaroza]

Shouldn't the Sage treasured tools be giving conceptual manipulation for 'status effecting people/entities' by interacting/manipulating their 'word souls'?

Why would that be conceptual manipulation?

 

[SlendVeny]

Do you guys think Kurama Sage Mode Naruto can solo the Akatsuki? And by Akatsuki I mean the iconic Pre-War Arc guys (Orange Mask Obito is included).

Yes. Assuming Regular Naruto + 9 clones, the only ones that can even beat a clone are:
-Zetsu
-Itachi
-Pain
-Tobi


And then the other clones jump them, or Naruto himself does.

 

[karo_senpaii]

What makes Base Momo Ninjutsu Stronger in your opinion? Base Naruto as we all know overpowered his Fused State Ninjutsu and if is that Momo damaged their avatars, It’s not a fair comparison because Naruto’s Ninjutsu never got the chance to have such a feat, but we do know SPSM actively dodges his Bases Ninjutsu via the Delta fight, so there’s that.

I don't understand the last sentence but base momo ninjustu could damage spsm naruto. He was trying to contain the damage but if his durability was far higher he would not have been hurt at all.

Roshi has a sorta similar thing with LCM. And I think that SPSM Naruto's cloak is kinda a pseudo Juubi cloak since it's so visually different and has SPS markings.

Cause he's not used to the other Bijuus' powers.

Roshi is actual lava not a chakra cloak , it's still tied to his lava ability not like kurama own.
The SPSM cloak could just be the fact that is is kurama and six path chakra hence the visual difference

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Roshi is actual lava not a chakra cloak , it's still tied to his lava ability not like kurama own.
The SPSM cloak could just be the fact that is is kurama and six path chakra hence the visual didifference

It's a Lava Chakra Mode, and it could be due to something Roshi allowed him to do considering he can give Naruto the ability to use Lava Rasenshuriken

When he's not directly connected to all the other Bijuu in Boruto his cloak is much more similar to the KCM2 cloak

 

[Veronica]

No you watched a different fight. He kicked and punched the living hell out of them right after doing justice to dozens of shadow clones with similar ap to naruto.

I'm reading the manga

 

[karo_senpaii]

I'm reading the manga

Watch the anime. It's more canon material. And even if we use only the manga not only did he keep up well with both spsm naruto and sasuke together he damaged sasuke and had spsm naruto saying his blows were so strong .
Once he entered V1 he completely dominated them. Nothing barely about that fight

It's a Lava Chakra Mode, and it could be due to something Roshi allowed him to do considering he can give Naruto the ability to use Lava Rasenshuriken

When he's not directly connected to all the other Bijuu in Boruto his cloak is much more similar to the KCM2 cloak

Well technically jutsu are made of chakra but it's still lava. Do you mean goku allowed him? Even so it just means that is the 4th tails ability.
And adult naruto could also have a change in cloak due to the fact that he now has the second half of kurama. Actually see how more kurama affected the cloak?

 

[Nierre]

Manga > Anime

in terms of canon

 

[Avengershows]

Manga > Anime

in terms of canon

Not really, that's like saying the DBS Manga is more canon than the DBS Anime.
I still don't know why we didn't split the profiles

 

[karo_senpaii]

Manga > Anime

in terms of canon

I agree. I didn't say anime was superior. I just said anime was more canon material to add at your disposal

 

[Nierre]

Not really, that's like saying the DBS Manga is more canon than the DBS Anime.
I still don't know why we didn't split the profiles

Not the context in which i was referring to.

 

[karo_senpaii]

100% sure chocho is gonna bump all the boruto kids to small country level

 

[Nierre]

she's an underrated goat

 

[karo_senpaii]

she's an underrated goat

When are you cooking the boruto verse for us?
Your last crt was really nice

 

[Nierre]

When are you cooking the boruto verse for us?
Your last crt was really nice

it'll be after the part 2 speed revisions

 

[Avengershows]

Not the context in which i was referring to.

Oh, yeah, fair enough
Also Nierre, shouldn't Rasengan: Unison be Kawasaki + Boruto's AP together

 

[karo_senpaii]

Oh, yeah, fair enough
Also Nierre, shouldn't Rasengan: Unison be Kawasaki + Boruto's AP together

When did this happen?