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Giorno vs Zeref
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Bruh, being uncontrollable, and being "passive", ie, instantaneous moment match begins.
Is not the same. I cant speak for robo but i pray you have a better example.
Fezzih_007
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Zeref is always oozing this death aura around himself, i not sure what you talking about.
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Do you not realize how long it took in that above video you showed? If it takes that long, it aint working my dude, and secondly, RTZ itself has infinite speed, it very well could and can negate instant abilities not withstanding it canonically can negate any ability in jojo, of which passives exist.
I would like to see an example of the death aura not taking seconds to actually work before you continue this conversation. And from there, we can discuss the huge big issue with this as a whole.
I would like to see an example of the death aura not taking seconds to actually work before you continue this conversation. And from there, we can discuss the huge big issue with this as a whole.
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if the zeref supporters are saying the death hax isn't passive you know something's wrong
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We are not talking about Base Zeref? Maybe u didn't see that.
Although better AP and haxes would be enough like i said. Defend me Giorno if u don't think that way.
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It is passive.
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Being passive doesnt mean much if it takes seconds to take full affect, against an ability with infinite speed.
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no matter how fast If Giorno come close to Zeref death mp will work on him.
ALSO IT SAYS EQUAL SPEED
Can you guys please read the rules of versus thread before argue with people.
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Not if that shit takes ten seconds my dude.
Yes, equal speed, attack speed and such retains its relative difference though..it's why say, a gunslingers gun will still be quicker than him in a speed equal match, the attack speed gets equalized proportionally (movement/reactions too btw).ALSO IT SAYS EQUAL SPEED
Go read the actual speed equal page before trying to come off as smart.
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So basically Giorno being at the same speed on attack speed, movement and reactions and telling me he can kill Zeref with immo 8 just bcs his gun will be quicker than him
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Uh no, RTZ is, quite literally, infinitely quicker than Giorno himself. It is instant, the moment harm would occur.So basically Giorno being at the same speed on attack speed, movement and reactions and telling me he can kill Zeref with immo 8 just bcs his gun will be quicker than him
Nobody said he could kill Zeref, but, that doesnt magically mean Zeref can kill the dude with 4D powernull, with 2-C range and causality manipulation.
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In that vídeo, Zeref recently acquired that power, so at first, the effects don't go in a instant. But when the thing settles in, everything around start dying pretty fast.
The other showings of that is when he killed 3 forest.
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Dont care how new it is, that is the example you used, untill i see something better, that is the example i will go on.
If you have a better example, show that instead.
Fezzih_007
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I don't remember the chapter or episode, but i can probally found wait a minute.
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Zeinx1
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no, it can't interact.
Yeah, neo eclipse I think it might be a wincon, not a stomp.
Zeref also resets the timeline with the neo eclipse and we know that there is linear time in the timeline, so the memories, etc. will be erased, in short, the giorno will be completely erased from existence conceptually with its memories, past and future.
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RTZ can literally restore non-existent time, and has done so on-screen no less, and has statements saying it can negate, or to be more precise, return, even the destruction of the present and past.
Ya'll dont seem to understand what "every ability" in jojo fully entails.
Destroying the a chunk of time isnt stopping RTZ from just restoring that time.
Also, why even? Just stop Zeref from doing it altogether. The assumption GER has to wait for the attack and null that, instead of just nulling the person doing it from ever having done it, is a pretty huge oversight all of you are having.
It's like saying GER has to null a bullet fired from a gun, instead of just stopping the dude from pulling the trigger to begin with.
4D powernull too btw.
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Also extremely bold to assume he doesnt get stuck in a loop eons before he whips out Neo Eclipse 
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Yeah, if that happens, it's stomps.Also extremely bold to assume he doesnt get stuck in a loop eons before he whips out Neo Eclipse
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I mean no, it's just a mismatch.
Zeref cant get past like, 4 versions of 4D defensive hax that has 2-C range, can affect even deleted time-space, and nullifies powers and shit so they cant even be used, that is also semi-automatic, infinite speed, and like ten other extra things.
And GER, is ******* High 8-C and his age manip dont work here. Like wtf he gonna do except make it so Zeref just stands there unable to do anything?
Match bad.
Zeref cant get past like, 4 versions of 4D defensive hax that has 2-C range, can affect even deleted time-space, and nullifies powers and shit so they cant even be used, that is also semi-automatic, infinite speed, and like ten other extra things.
And GER, is ******* High 8-C and his age manip dont work here. Like wtf he gonna do except make it so Zeref just stands there unable to do anything?
Match bad.
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