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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

LordTracer said:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Tier 1 and 0 are horrible, I don’t know why you people want them.
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tbh it's only cool when the character in that tier is some outer god like being beyond the concept of "fighting/battle" as they are simply so strong they can blink and both you and existence gets wiped out and they aren't normally apart of the narrative ( IE having the nigh unbeatable boss as a playable character )

For example, outer gods from cthulu mythos like Yog Sothoth or Nyarlathotep

They ain't gonna throw hands, hey will make you go mad by just looking at you

Very rarely have I seen Tier 1-A characters be apart of the narrative normally, whether as an MC or a villain and not break the story instantly by just existing and not doing shit to move anything along ngl
 
I will prove Aizen is Divine in nature

Buddhism: Aizen Myōō

Desire and Transformation:

Aizen Myōō: In Buddhism, Aizen Myōō is often associated with the transformation of desires into spiritual awakening. The noose he wields symbolizes the binding and transformation of worldly desires, ultimately leading to enlightenment.

Sosuke Aizen: Aizen's storyline revolves around his intense desire for power and control. His rebellion against the Soul Society and pursuit of the Hogyoku reflect a transformative journey driven by ambition. Aizen's desire for transcendence parallels the theme of desires transforming into something greater, akin to the Buddhist concept.

Deception and Illusion:

Aizen Myōō: The wrathful and fierce appearance of Aizen Myōō is meant to convey the intensity needed to dispel illusions and cut through the deceptions of the material world. This aligns with the broader Buddhist notion of seeing through the illusions of the ego and desires.

Sosuke Aizen: Aizen's Zanpakuto, Kyoka Suigetsu, is centered around illusion and deception. This ability allows him to manipulate the perceptions of others, creating a parallel with Aizen Myōō's role in dispelling illusions. Aizen uses deception as a tool for achieving his goals, emphasizing the theme of illusion present in both characters.

Fierce Appearance:

Aizen Myōō: Depicted with a wrathful expression, Aizen Myōō's appearance signifies the fierceness required to confront and overcome worldly obstacles. This fierceness is not malevolent but serves as a protective force against delusions and attachments, Has three eyes and 6 arms in which he carries weapons/items.

Sosuke Aizen: Aizen's character exudes a sense of cunning and determination. While not a direct parallel, his fierce demeanor, especially during pivotal moments in the series, aligns with the intensity associated with Aizen Myōō. Both characters embody a certain forcefulness in their pursuit of their respective goals. Final fusion has 3 eyes and 6 wings from which he uses fragor.

Spiritual Themes:

Aizen Myōō: As a Buddhist deity, Aizen Myōō is inherently tied to spiritual themes, representing the transformation from the material to the spiritual. His role is to guide individuals on the path to enlightenment by helping them overcome worldly desires.

Sosuke Aizen: While existing in a fictional context, Aizen's storyline involves spiritual elements such as the Soul Society, spiritual beings, and the pursuit of power beyond mortal limits. His quest for transcendence can be interpreted as a narrative echo of spiritual themes found in religious and mythological contexts.

Christianity: Jesus

Lily of the Valley: Aizen's squad 5 flower is the Lily of the Valley, sometimes called the "Ladder to Heaven." The flower is closely associated within Christian tradition with the second coming of Jesus.

Symbolism and Resurrection:

Sosuke Aizen:

In the "Return of the God" chapter, Aizen's reappearance draws parallels with resurrection, mirroring the concept of the Second Coming of Christ. Aizen's transformation and return signify a rebirth, similar to the Messianic theme of Christ's return.

Second Coming of Christ:

The Second Coming in Christianity refers to the prophesied return of Jesus Christ. Aizen's return echoes the anticipation and significance attached to the Second Coming, both involving the return of a powerful figure.

Messianic Elements:

Sosuke Aizen:

Aizen's role as a charismatic and powerful figure aligns with Messianic qualities. His initial fall and subsequent return in the "Return of the God" chapter parallel the Messianic narrative.

Second Coming of Christ:

The Second Coming is associated with the arrival of the Messiah in Christian theology. Aizen's reappearance can be interpreted as a Messianic event within the Bleach narrative, akin to the awaited return of Christ.

Transformation and Redemption:

Sosuke Aizen:

Aizen's character undergoes transformative experiences, suggesting redemption or a new purpose. The "Return of the God" chapter implies a potential shift in Aizen's role, aligning with themes of redemption and transformation.

Second Coming of Christ:

The Second Coming is often linked to the idea of redemption and the fulfillment of divine purposes. Aizen's return might signify a transformative journey, paralleling the redemptive aspects associated with the Second Coming.

Soul King, The Devil, and Yhwach, and the Antichrist:

Tokinada's famous quote referring to the Soul King as "both a devil and a savior." Yhwach being the son of the Soul King is a counterpart to the Antichrist who disguises himself as a holy being and tricks people into thinking he is the Messiah.

Why is this relevant? Aizen's return to fight Yhwach is similar to Jesus's second coming to fight the Antichrist.

Conclusion (obviously not a reach):

I just proved Aizen is divine in nature and why his transcendence is similar to nirvana and Jesus ascending to heaven (Both of which can be argued as Higher dimensional). Thus, Aizen's statement about Higher dimensionality is not a hyperbole.
 
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Who is going to join me in creating this CRT? We have to prove that Tier 1 Bleach stomps the Dragon Ball verse. This is obviously a joke, but if someone finds more evidence and wants to do a Dr. White, I'll help.
 
Arcker123 said:
Aizen Myōō scaling is such an obvious naming fallacy its quite funny.

Like, Aizen does incorporate part of the ideas lore into his character (That's the name) but this is so bad.
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It's literally the same being can't u see it. I know that's why this is a Joke
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Bastolan27 said:
Wow, they really threw you under the bus. How can someone report you just because you were a bit rude when they were rude in the first place?
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Sometimes it's better not to mention it, sometimes these things happen and we can't do anything

We are all just a little ant
 
Bastolan27 said:
He just said he didn't insult your english skills, but i have the scans
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It's just so laughably [Redacted for attacking the credibility of Deagonx] that he tries to say he didn't make multiple insults to me such as calling my arguments Temper tantrums and such.

You can critique my conduct here sure, but Deagon's attempts to minimize any culpability he has for the shitstorm that happened here is just intellectually [Redacted for attacking the credibility of Deagonx].
 
Arcker123 said:
It's just so laughably [Redacted for attacking the credibility of Deagonx] that he tries to say he didn't make multiple insults to me such as calling my arguments Temper tantrums and such.

You can critique my conduct here sure, but Deagon's attempts to minimize any culpability he has for the shitstorm that happened here is just intellectually [Redacted for attacking the credibility of Deagonx].
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The best we can say is "hyperbole", we've been through these things so many times that I've lost count.
 
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