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Trust me it's a one sided communication with surfSo it's just a random one on YouTube that we shouldn't pay attention to, let's focus on DB.
Arale scales in resistance to the Guy who sees everyone as fiction, aka his Haxes should be superior to anyone in verse, so a char who he sees as fiction shouldn't scale to him in any way, that is what i think it is anywayCare to explain why they should not scale??, cause i rather downgrade out of accuracy than because you guys scare people making 5D Beerus
Absurd, isn't it? Arale clashing with the creator of the work and Beerus still being ranked higher, this is so wrong.Arale scales in resistance to the Guy who sees everyone as fiction, aka his Haxes should be superior to anyone in verse, so a char who he sees as fiction shouldn't scale to him in any way, that is what i think it is anyway
Tf? That's not toon force. That's just Beerus' stomach getting rolled by taco bellGoku said Arale’s stuff(toon force) wouldn’t work on Beerus but then 5 seconds later Beerus immediately falls victim to a poop gag
I don't remember Luffy said something about downgrade Toon ForceGoku said Arale’s stuff(toon force) wouldn’t work on Beerus but then 5 seconds later Beerus immediately falls victim to a poop gag
This is at least a valid take, i rather have this over the reason that fear of getting downgrade from 5D, nglArale scales in resistance to the Guy who sees everyone as fiction, aka his Haxes should be superior to anyone in verse, so a char who he sees as fiction shouldn't scale to him in any way, that is what i think it is anyway
Do not downgrade Toon Force in any way, just remove that mention, it seems so exaggerated that it makes me think that Arale actually loses to Beerus, since Arale has a passive plotI don't remember Luffy said something about downgrade Toon Force
No one gave a number anywaySo Omega just now decided to bring up DBH in the layers evaluation thread, even though I believe it was agreed upon that people will readjust the layers, and that they don't want to use the 20 layers or something at the moment until they gather more evidence, or make any battles with DBH characters.
I'm talking about DBH supportersi never claimed a number, i am just not sure if the logic for the layers stated in the page now stand with the now more strict standard, so i decided to bring it up, there's no harm in asking right?
i know, just specifying that i didn't claimed any number in case someone thinks i didI'm talking about DBH supporters
They say that the whole blog is pure speculation and it seems to mention that time is not infinite, or that is what I understood since I am not good at English.What is he saying? I don't speak native English and I use Google translate '-'
No 2-C.Question, so IZ is the size of a low 1-C construct right?
noQuestion, so IZ is the size of a low 1-C construct right?
To my understanding Infinite Zamasu is only accepted as merging with the U7 Macrocosm. He isn't accepted as merging with the multiverse, let alone the Hypertimeline itself.Question, so IZ is the size of a low 1-C construct right?
This feat was already accepted for Beerus on the wiki, he only lost it because slump xters were downgraded from 5d to 4dThat's not accepted on this wiki and it frustrates some supporters when it's talked about as a fact
Plus it would probably be an outlier
Whenever he tries to debunk db his main argument always revolves around "well things can be interpreted differently" and wanks the hell out of shinra by himself using flawed intepretations and bro also said vsbw mods are biased.Yeah, I'm going through the stream archive and this dude doesn't even seem to understand what the upgrade is and is just retreading old arguments. Instead of making a stream to ***** about it he should go read up on the Low 1-C standards and check the CRTs that approved the upgrade. Even glancing through the video he barely even bothers checking any scans in the blog and cherrypicks what fits his views.
Surfbone was on vsbw?I saw him disagree with Ben 10 Low 1-C
the funny thing is that he's the ONLY one listed under disagreeing
There's no such as normal AP for soul destruction separate from soul destruction hax, it's all treated as hax here, attacks that destroy the soul....is hax.the point is that the said resistance for Hakai is not for the aplication undertale chars use, it is just resisting EE that erases the Soul, while in undertale they all just attack the soul directly with AP, so it is not comparable in the first place for it to matter
Maybe you're confused, there are 2 author avatars; the Toribot that interacts with arale and the one with a roommate that sees everything as fiction, the one that sees everything as fiction isn't the one who tried to erase Arale, THAT'S why Dr slump characters got downgraded in the first place because it wasn't the one who saw the timelines as fiction who erased them,Absurd, isn't it? Arale clashing with the creator of the work and Beerus still being ranked higher, this is so wrong.
I think we're referring to different peopleSurfbone was on vsbw?
There are several Tori-bot avatars, it is impossible to know which is which.Maybe you're confused, there are 2 author avatars; the Toribot that interacts with arale and the one with a roommate that sees everything as fiction, the one that sees everything as fiction isn't the one who tried to erase Arale, THAT'S why Dr slump characters got downgraded in the first place because it wasn't the one who saw the timelines as fiction who erased them,
The one arale is being credited with resisting and matching is the 3d one, there was a CRT on it and it was shown that it's not the one that sees everything as fictionThere are several Tori-bot avatars, it is impossible to know which is which.
Although I have read little about Dr slump, what never really appeared in the work was the one with a giant pen on the back, although the manga is not fully translated here in Brazil, I only read 28 chapters.The one arale is being credited with resisting and matching is the 3d one, there was a CRT on it and it was shown that it's not the one that sees everything as fiction
Surfbone wants some smoke with us
Surfbone is definitely not Georr if that’s what you’re implying, Surfbone doesn’t even think temporal dimensions grant anything because they don’t on CSAP.I think we're referring to different people
There's this guy that made a video to debunk Low 1-C Dragon Ball
Coincidentally, he speaks exclusively in italics
There is literally only one person on this site who does this, and he's the only person who disagreed with Low 1-C Ben 10
True he called time room anime filler to lolSame dude who says hits time skip is just him entering a dimension, he completely ignores the hit rematch to make his point right.
Actually, he just ignores everything to look correct so you shouldnt bother with him.
Hes talking about that VonKey dude who was the first to post a debunk, but its still unlikely.Surfbone is definitely not Georr if that’s what you’re implying, Surfbone doesn’t even think temporal dimensions grant anything because they don’t on CSAP.
It is not soul deatruction, it soul attacking, they are destroying the soul, they are attacking it directly to eventually destroy it via APThere's no such as normal AP for soul destruction separate from soul destruction hax, it's all treated as hax here, attacks that destroy the soul....is hax.
Magic has NPI, they can directly touch and harm souls directly, it is not "normal AP" but it is still attacking directly hax compared to hakai's pure erasureUnless you're saying that souls in that game are more physical than normal souls and are thus vulnerable to normal AP
No, the one who erased them was the one that sees it as fiction, arale never went to the real world to interact with him, hence why she was downgraded, but no, the one who erased was the one who saw it as fictionMaybe you're confused, there are 2 author avatars; the Toribot that interacts with arale and the one with a roommate that sees everything as fiction, the one that sees everything as fiction isn't the one who tried to erase Arale, THAT'S why Dr slump characters got downgraded in the first place because it wasn't the one who saw the timelines as fiction who erased them,
Hakai does this too, in the ToP Toppo used a non erasure version on Frieza, which ended up exploding and warping the WoV. It can be regulated when combined with a ki blastIt is not soul deatruction, it soul attacking, they are destroying the soul, they are attacking it directly to eventually destroy it via AP
As do hakai usersMagic has NPI,
Hakai attacks souls directly as well as the body and mind, and it can be used to attack rather than just erase as toppo showed, when combined with kithey can directly touch and harm souls directly, it is not "normal AP" but it is still attacking directly hax compared to hakai's pure erasure
Hakai can do both as wellThe difference between both is the same difference from you punching someone and you erasing someone, resisting one means nothing in resisting the other
Nope, that's why arale was downgraded, there was no proof it was 5d (now 6d with the timeline upgrade) avatars doing the erasure, this she was downgraded to tier 2 via 3d avatars.No, the one who erased them was the one that sees it as fiction, arale never went to the real world to interact with him, hence why she was downgraded, but no, the one who erased was the one who saw it as fiction
You said it yourself, he didn't used the erasure version, hence it didn't affected the soul as the erasure version wouldHakai does this too, in the ToP Toppo used a non erasure version on Frieza, which ended up exploding and warping the WoV. It can be regulated when combined with a ki blast
I said that to you saying that souls would be physical, not saying that hakai has it or notAs do hakai users
it erases the Body and soul, it doesn't attack it directly with AP, it is just using EE on a soul level, also....where is it stated that it erases the mind as well?Hakai attacks souls directly as well as the body and mind
And in that case it is shown that it doesn't erase the body and soul, so i fail to see how relevant that is, and it can be used to attack rather than just erase as toppo showed, when combined with ki
Show me when has Haki been used to attack the soul with its raw AP rather than its EEHakai can do both as well
Nope, that's why arale was downgraded, there was no proof it was 5d (now 6d with the timeline upgrade) avatars doing the erasure, this she was downgraded to tier 2 via 3d avatars.
I think you meant Hakai.Show me when has Haki been used to attack the soul with its raw AP rather than its EE