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Just needs one more mod/admin vote and IZ will become a smurf.
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Heros didn't have a scaling chain so yeah. Dagoth says he's making one but that dude is hella unreliable, just completely and utterly incorrect about everything @Dagoth_OwO
Serlock_Holmes
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Because instead of 1d it's gonna be 1-A?
You are everywhere! Who is Beat's ancestor?
1-A Paraplegic Kirito?
Yeah it would need to be an actual reality that's viewed as a game. Like literal beings viewed as nothing more than fictional entities. Can't think of some popular verses where that happens. Also everything would interacting via an avatar and being wounded count as an antifeat? I would guess not if it was just the avatar. If the actual being is wounded then yes it's a huge anti-feat except if a power inverse is established that can do that.
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The fact that Zeno can still erase you even if you flee to another timeline is quite funny
Did anyone from the game hurt beat?
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Not just that, there's also gonna be another caveat as you mentioned below:
If this happens, forget 1-A, you might risk losing even the Low 1-C rating if the additional context isn't upto snuff.
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WowHeros didn't have a scaling chain so yeah. Dagoth says he's making one but that dude is hella unreliable, just completely and utterly incorrect about everything @Dagoth_OwO
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There are DC characters that they say are only 2-C, while they are low 1-C
Killerdrone123
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Given the fact that dc fans scale base comic superman to outer that would be a horrendous low ball in there eyes
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I don't know why people care so much about marvel/dc in vsbattle.
In addition to being complicated to review everything because thousands of comics + each writer having their own interpretation of cosmology, etc., it is practically impossible to review everything for each version of the character.
Just to review all versions of Batman, there would have to be a team to do this.
These types of characters are always going to be complicated, and will probably always be going through heavy revisions that take months or years like DC is going through.
I think that just by marvel and dc's scaling rule it should already show how complicated it is and how simple it is.
In addition to being complicated to review everything because thousands of comics + each writer having their own interpretation of cosmology, etc., it is practically impossible to review everything for each version of the character.
Just to review all versions of Batman, there would have to be a team to do this.
These types of characters are always going to be complicated, and will probably always be going through heavy revisions that take months or years like DC is going through.
I think that just by marvel and dc's scaling rule it should already show how complicated it is and how simple it is.
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They should basically just group characters based on their authors, it would actually be more consistent lmao
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The same specific character can have several stories written by different writers.
It wouldn't make sense to do that.
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Yea, I know, nut each writer would be more consistent with their portrayal
Maybe on X-Men
You have bendis
Hickman, etc
Ofcourse doing this for individual xters is six a mammoth task that it's pointless,
They need a specialized team to review those two verses
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Again it wouldn't make sense.
It would be like for example.
Let's say each arc of the Dragon Ball manga was written by a different writer.
It wouldn't make sense to make a new profile for Goku in each arc.
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Does anyone ever plan to profile Tori Bot?
We can get a 6D with it.
We can get a 6D with it.
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I think he would have two keys.
The avatar version that interacts with DB/Dr.Slump and that Arale keeps getting in the way, and the one where he has a roommate or something.
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I mean, if there's wild inconsistency in their abilities and powers, it probably would, sun dipped superman for example, ranges from star to multiversal
Silver surfer ranges from star to universal unamped, living tribunal too
But it's all just a rant anyway
He scales above the timeline?
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From what I remember, the avatar would have almost the same statistics as Arale.
And the version of him who has a roommate sees DB's world/cosmology as R > f, therefore 6D.
At least that's what I remember from that crt that took Arale to 5D before the hipertimelines.
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I remember that thread, there's the 3d avatar and 5d one, arale resisted the 3d one so she got downgraded, not sure if the avatars were r>f tho
But it's best to wait till Ultima's thread is done, the r>f one might actually make the 1A if Ultima's thread passes, or 6d if it doesn't
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the Ultima CRT wasn't going away anytime soon.
Furthermore, the only thing that would need to be done if the CRT passed was to make a new tori bot evaluation crt.
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Well, then it needs to be confirmed of he sees the timelines as fiction first to avoid any road blocks
Then the upgrade can come if the r>f is legit, he'd get immeasurable LS (from the immeasurable strength standard remodel to stop Zamasu from getting it)
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Just a question let's say a character has 4d hgr can he be erased with 5d ee
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depending on what the ee has done and if they have the range
Killerdrone123
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Take zeno here can his ee bypass 4d hgr since it is 5d
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he can if he erased the 4d plane
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no, 5D EE or infinite D EE not gonna do anything again HGR if you do not have regen neg, also, regen isn't tied with dimensionality, so there is no such a thing as 4d hgr
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So hypothetically a Low 2-C who can regen from narrative erasure can't be killed by a 1-A's soul/mind erasure?
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For HGR you need to regen from mind soul body and another fundamental aspect, cant those aspects be 4D, and can be destroyed by a higher D hax, aslong as they have range
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yes, unless some serious changes happened and i'm not aware
it doesn't matter, because regeneration as an ability isn't tied with dimensionality, dimensionality have no hold over regeneration
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so is the answer is yes aslong as the 5d ee has the range
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yes, but it can be death if the erasure is conceptual or informative, since it would only have narrative regeneration.
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No, it doesn't matter if your EE is 5D, 6D or infinite D.
If you don't have regeneration denial or destroy the target at a fundamental level that their regeneration doesn't cover, EE won't kill them.
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While you're here, why do some DBH characters (which don't involve arale, etc.) have narrative erasure and regeneration?
Narrative erasure or regeneration is linked to manipulation of the plot or in the metafictional context. If DBH doesn't have it to have plot hax, then why do they have this narrative thing?
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Interesting that potent regeneration is in the same class as NEP type 2 and TS type 3 (type 2 too I think?) when it comes to defensive hax that makes dimensional AP useless.
I see some verses do often connect souls and consciousness with concepts/information but that's case by case. From what I can understand a 1-A with mgr negation can't kill a Low 2-C with hgr and I find that amusing.
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what, they didn't have it? where did you get that idea??
range doesn't matter, as long as you don't have regen neg, they will come back
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You can probably figure it out through guessing alone.
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So are Goku and Co dead from old age?
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Nevermind, I confused narrative with history.
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You can with the complete and absolute destruction of the fifth dimension on every level you can conceive of, something that only really 6D or higher beings would be capable of or survive. The same for even the likes of Acsaulity Type 5 and other such abilities, they only extend as far as they have evidence of.
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You are talking about 5D EE that destroys a 5D cosmology. Like, using EE to destroy cosmology at a 5D level along with the target.
Or EE 5D as EE power?
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Eh, anything that can destroy the entire 5D cosmology and its fundamental existence in every shape and form. Though as stated, usual 5D abilities aren't capable of destroying the fifth dimensions on such a level, and a 5D being is very unlikely to survive such a thing anyway themselves, so higher dimensions are usual needed to pull it off.
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