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I permanently blocked them for troll edits.
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This user made this edit to Rock Lee's profile, and more notably, it is overwriting Antvasima's rollback of the exact same edit made months earlier. No CRT appears to have been made.
The user has over 3,000 edits and doesn't seem to be malicious. They might not even know their prior revision was rolled back by Antvasima, so this strikes me at least as a well-intentioned mistake. Still, it's a problem Antvasima has had to fix before.
Update: Actually, Antvasima warned the user against this exact edit before. This could be an issue... Maybe they didn't see the warning.
The user has over 3,000 edits and doesn't seem to be malicious. They might not even know their prior revision was rolled back by Antvasima, so this strikes me at least as a well-intentioned mistake. Still, it's a problem Antvasima has had to fix before.
Update: Actually, Antvasima warned the user against this exact edit before. This could be an issue... Maybe they didn't see the warning.
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He seems familiar as someone who's been around for years, and IMO he should have known better. But I gave him a just in case final warning. If someone thinks that's too lenient, a short block I won't be against but think a 2nd warning is good for now.
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Those edits were updates to the character profile based on previously approved CRTs, so I think those edits are valid.
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The thing is what he updated in his profile, that just came today in game so how come he got accepted before hand ? Can I get the link of the crt plz.
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The Traveler 6-C Upgrade (Genshin Impact)
This has been a long time coming. The Traveler from their Inazuma key and onward should be 6-C for a few reasons. When first arriving in Inazuma they where completely destroyed and almost killed by the Raiden Shogun, however after going through Yae Miko's Anti-Raiden Shogun training they are...
This upgrade was based on characters for the Sumeru Arc. However, Childe’s upgrades are from the Fontaine Arc which is after the Sumeru Arc, hence theoretically the Traveller should be much stronger in the Fontaine Arc (especially after acquiring a new element) therefore I think it’s reasonable for Childe to have an At least 6-C rating.
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The Traveler 6-C Upgrade (Genshin Impact)
This has been a long time coming. The Traveler from their Inazuma key and onward should be 6-C for a few reasons. When first arriving in Inazuma they where completely destroyed and almost killed by the Raiden Shogun, however after going through Yae Miko's Anti-Raiden Shogun training they are...vsbattles.com
This upgrade was based on characters for the Sumeru Arc. However, Childe’s upgrades are from the Fontaine Arc which is after the Sumeru Arc, hence theoretically the Traveller should be much stronger in the Fontaine Arc (especially after acquiring a new element) therefore I think it’s reasonable for Childe to have an At least 6-C rating.
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If it applies to Traveler then it also applies to everyone who scales to Traveler.
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If this wasn't a CRT accepted thing then it isn't acceptable to change it. Even the decision to make a character notable upscale ("At least 6-C" rather than "6-C") is a statistical change and one that would require specific acceptance.
Was this revision accepted in the CRTs, or is it just presumed as logical?
Was this revision accepted in the CRTs, or is it just presumed as logical?
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Accepted indirectly, you could say (so logically speaking). The Traveler already has “at least 6-C” on their profile so I actually wouldn’t know about the flaws behind that.
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Am I getting the wrong idea here or what? I’m pretty sure if [[character A]] has [[rating X]] then I’m pretty sure everyone who scales on par with [[character A]] all has their rating changed to [[rating X]], since they’re obviously displayed to be on-par with them.
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pretty sure that information would need to be in a CRT as well
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Same opinion, that's why I said above crt was for only traveller
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If the Traveler has At least 6-C (accepted via CRT) and this guy just had that applied (even if he wasn't named explicitly, but is accepted to scale), then it's probably fine.
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Yeah, that’s the case right there.
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What he used in his profile is this, i don't see traveller fighting the narwhal ? And last link is a boss fight which doesn't clarify anything ( also i haven't reached this part in game myself so I am not sure self)
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Battle starts at 3:15. Tho yeah, I agree that was poorly applied. They just linked the entire video rather than timestamps.
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I fixed the YouTube links now. That should work.
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Well, to be fair, it seems very illogical that Rock Lee would have the abilities that Orc removed, as Rock is almost entirely limited to purely physical combat.
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Rock Lee (ロック・リー, Rokku Rī) is a ninja of Konohagakure. He's a part of Team Guy along with Neji Hyuuga, Tenten, and Might Guy. Due to his inability to use Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, Lee dedicated his life to becoming a Taijutsu expert and undergoes rigorous training under Might Guy's teachings...
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I personally do not mind (and even appreciate) if members competently help to apply such verse-spanning upgrades, as long as the changes they scale from have been accepted by our staff in a content revision thread beforehand.
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Is still something that needs a CRT, you can't remove stuff which was previously accepted without an agreed reason.
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Thank you very much for helping out.
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Was it accepted or just added as a standard ability for all Naruto ninjas though, without pausing to consider that Rock Lee does not actually have any more esoteric abilities whatsoever?
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The abilities that Orc removed, require little to no chakra whatsoever and are more like stealth abilities.
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I thought at first it seemed at least somewhat reasonable too. The thing that made me think it wasn't was the fact that they had made the exact same edit months earlier, and you had already rolled it back. You'd even warned them over that edit. This doesn't strike me as a troll edit though, just a misunderstanding. They seem well-intentioned.
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Okay, but Rock Lee explicitly has no such abilities at all.
Yes, agreed. I think that we should probably restore their edit.
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Wouldn't it be better to have knowledgeable moderators of the verse like @UchihaSlayer96 or @LordTracer comment on the legitimacy of these abilities being on Rock Lee's profile instead of arguing if he should or shouldn't when most likely possessing less knowledge on the verse and its mechanics compared to those referenced above?
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I’m not gonna comment on how legitimate the abilities are, I’m just going to say that if this person wants to remove them, they need to make a CRT.
No. We shouldn’t be allowing someone to remove abilities from a profile without going through the proper channels to do so.
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I absolutely agree with Tracer on this. This isn't the place to have this discussion, and edits without accepted CRTs should not be allowed.
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I'm all for this person sticking around, and all for regular members making small edits to improve the quality of pages (grammar, spelling, etc), but this edit was a significant overhaul of the abilities section with no CRT as of yet.
This very edit was rolled back by Antvasima months ago.
This very edit was rolled back by Antvasima months ago.
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I don't see the need for a ban either. Just a warning not to make major edits without getting approval through a CRT should suffice.
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There wasn’t a CRT supporting those edits unlike the revision with Tartaglia. I’m 100 percent with LordTracer and Uchihaslayer96 on this.
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User @XxZetsuxX made statistical changes by cutting off abilities from this page.
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Note: Spoiler Alert (Details beyond the anime will be revealed below) Ayanokouji Kiyotaka is the main protagonist and narrator of the Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e series. Initially an average and socially awkward student who constantly advances the story proves to be...
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Seemingly, he also did those shenanigans on this page as well.
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Compare the version before and after his edits, clearly a change in profile statistics.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?oldid=8216482 (Revision as of 01:39, 9 November 2023 by XxZetsuxX; most recent)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?direction=prev&oldid=8216479 (Revision as of 22:48, 14 August 2023 by Mantidil)
Gintoki Sakata
Sakata Gintoki (坂田 銀時, Sakata Gintoki) is the founder and president of the Yorozuya Gin-Chan, as well as a highly skilled samurai, having fought in the Joui War in the past. During the war, he became known as the White Demon (白悪魔, Shiroyasha) due to his powerful swordplay and demonic white...
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Compare the version before and after his edits, clearly a change in profile statistics.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?oldid=8216482 (Revision as of 01:39, 9 November 2023 by XxZetsuxX; most recent)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?direction=prev&oldid=8216479 (Revision as of 22:48, 14 August 2023 by Mantidil)
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Elizhaa blocked them (for vandalism, which while technically true I'd say doesn't pay proper respect to inserting that particular message).
These edits are mostly clarifications and source-adding based on what's already accepted; he should receive a light warning and be told the proper process. @XxZetsuxX You need to pass a proper CRT to enact changes to statistics, including abilities, even if they may seem self-evident to you. You're getting a warning because you seem to want to genuinely help.Seemingly, he also did those shenanigans on this page as well.
Gintoki Sakata
Sakata Gintoki (坂田 銀時, Sakata Gintoki) is the founder and president of the Yorozuya Gin-Chan, as well as a highly skilled samurai, having fought in the Joui War in the past. During the war, he became known as the White Demon (白悪魔, Shiroyasha) due to his powerful swordplay and demonic white...
Compare the version before and after his edits, clearly a change in profile statistics.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?oldid=8216482 (Revision as of 01:39, 9 November 2023 by XxZetsuxX; most recent)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?direction=prev&oldid=8216479 (Revision as of 22:48, 14 August 2023 by Mantidil)
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/classroom-of-the-elite-white-room-training-concept-crt-part-1.160188/User @XxZetsuxX made statistical changes by cutting off abilities from this page.
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Note: Spoiler Alert (Details beyond the anime will be revealed below) Ayanokouji Kiyotaka is the main protagonist and narrator of the Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e series. Initially an average and socially awkward student who constantly advances the story proves to be...
https://vsbattles.com/threads/gintama-normal-gintoki-crt.160547/page-2#post-6160944Seemingly, he also did those shenanigans on this page as well.
Gintoki Sakata
Sakata Gintoki (坂田 銀時, Sakata Gintoki) is the founder and president of the Yorozuya Gin-Chan, as well as a highly skilled samurai, having fought in the Joui War in the past. During the war, he became known as the White Demon (白悪魔, Shiroyasha) due to his powerful swordplay and demonic white...
Compare the version before and after his edits, clearly a change in profile statistics.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?oldid=8216482 (Revision as of 01:39, 9 November 2023 by XxZetsuxX; most recent)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gintoki_Sakata?direction=prev&oldid=8216479 (Revision as of 22:48, 14 August 2023 by Mantidil)
But linking CTRs is mandatory so someone should tell the bloke that.
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Ah, very good. Alright, rescind the warning
Thank you, Witchy.
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I agree with First Witch and Bambu, the only thing lightly wrong was just forgetting to link the URL to the content revision. Which isn't too bad.
