Gintama - Normal Gintoki CRT

[XxZetsuxX]

It's similar, So i thought the same could apply to Gintoki s'well

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I dunno, honestly, if it's like, a canonical mechanic he has, I know the series gets pretty meta

I see

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I gave him that because he has something similar with Mario

Acausality (Type 1. Can interact with and fight alongside his baby self[1])

Well downgrade that then. 2 wrongs doens't make it right.

This is what type 1 does.

Type 1: Time Paradox Immunity: Characters with this type of Acausality are rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes, but remain just as vulnerable in the present and can be affected by normal Causality Manipulation and similar abilities.

Time travelling or fighting your past doesn't gives Acausality. Unless you have scans for Gintoki killing his past self and not getting affected by it or something similar. I mean altering Gintoki past shouldn't affect Gintoki in present that's the main thing you need here to give Acausality.

I am currently around 280th episode of Gintama and stopped watching it for the time being. So I don't know the full context. But what you wrote in OP doesn't qualify for Acasualty type 1. You need better proof

 

[Armorchompy]

Time travelling or fighting your past doesn't gives Acausality. Unless you have scans for Gintoki killing his past self and not getting affected by it or something similar. I mean altering Gintoki past shouldn't affect Gintoki in present that's the main thing you need here to give Acausality.

That would be Acausality type 2. Type 1 just means that more... minor I think retcons don't affect you, which this would count as, I think.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That would be Acausality type 2. Type 1 just means that more... minor I think retcons don't affect you, which this would count as, I think.

• Type 1 - Altering the Past doesn't affect Present version of the character
• Type 2 - they don't exist in past or future

Type 2 is very different than type 1.
I don't fully know the context for Gintama but based on scans in OP. It doesn't Qualifies for Acausality type 1.

 

[Armorchompy]

Apologies, I meant type 3, not type 2. That said you would definitely alter the past by interacting with your past self, unless it was a fixed time loop sort of thing.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

So Gintoki has acausality type 3 or minor type 1?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Apologies, I meant type 3, not type 2. That said you would definitely alter the past by interacting with your past self, unless it was a fixed time loop sort of thing.

It depends on the context

• Does Altering the past would change the timelines in Gintama & create a new timeline?; Because DBS has some mechanism like that and we don't give Acasualty type 1 for that.

Btw type 3 also doesn't fit here. Type 3 is same character existing in different planes where if you kill that character in one plane they will be still alive thanks to other versions of them.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Btw type 3 also doesn't fit here. Type 3 is same character existing in different planes where if you kill that character in one plane they will be still alive thanks to other versions of them.

Ah, I see, Thanks for explaining it to me XD

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So Gintoki has acausality type 3 or minor type 1?

No type 3.
It's either type 1 or not.
Can you explain what happened to his past self?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

No type 3.
It's either type 1 or not.
Can you explain what happened to his past self?

I'm not entirely knowledgeable with acausality things but here is what happened;

He went to the past, Then fought with his past enemies and his past self joins the fight later on, Then His present dissapears

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Because the virus didn't touch his past self, His current self dissapeared

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I can remove it, If it doesn't work no worries

 

[Armorchompy]

Oh that's like, an explicit showing against Acausality if he's affected by changes in the past, sorry

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Oh that's like, an explicit showing against Acausality if he's affected by changes in the past, sorry

;-;

Lemme remove it then

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Wait, I just noticed Batou can also read minds

That counts as telepathy right?

You guys don't mind if i place it on Gintoki's resistences do you?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I Added more scans to the CRT

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I think 48H have passed, No?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I think 48H have passed, No?

Yes they have

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Yes they have

I will apply the changes then

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I applied the changes, This can be closed