MeiouHades
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Not the point.
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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MeiouHades
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That probably won’t work. Fiction use immeasurable differently than power scalers. In fiction immeasurable just means too big to measure while infinite just means infinite.
In other words, in fiction, infinite>immeasurable
Serlock_Holmes
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They have infinite energy but can't use it all in all it's quantity.
MeiouHades
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Doesn’t Toei Cell have that? And isn’t that the episode where Moori says he would destroy the universe?
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i just gone for half a day (probably) and what the hell is this???
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I think it's amazing that no one has ever tried to do the same thing with Android to get infinite speed, lol
Hasty12345
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Sure it isn’t.
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What do you mean bro?
MeiouHades
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The point is, if DB did have that statement, that scenario would follow.
Hasty12345
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I think DB would probably get it if it had an explicit statement given how all the super saiyan forms are treated.
MeiouHades
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There’s the problem.
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Please elaborate a little more on that?
Serlock_Holmes
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If multipliers are accepted then infinite ki=speed would be accepted.
MeiouHades
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He probably means that because certain SSJ forms are treated as quite literally infinite jumps in power (Base Goku to SSB Goku, 3U vs 6U), the wiki could allow that,
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If only the gap between Tier 4 and 2 wasn't treated as finite.
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We also use hyperboles to say that it is infinite
MeiouHades
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He’s just speaking about their growth potential.
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I'm connected, bro, but we don't use it in any way to give it some speed like this, although I consider better achievements than using quotes
MeiouHades
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If that happened then by definition DBS would jump to infinite speed, so would any other verse that has such large jumps in power. That would lead to an inflation in speed stats, that’s why finite jumps in strength are accepted as being able to jump infinities in power.
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I don't know if you noticed, but you are at risk of suffering a ban, I strongly recommend that you apologize or say that you will change ( I also think you should comment on what you did there)
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Seems fair
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I've been going through this several times and the site is so heavy (it takes about 4 minutes for me to enter)
Hasty12345
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Same for me
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I'll laugh if it happens
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Fezzih_007
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Hades
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Hades in the anime is very beautiful (unlike his art in the manga which is different)
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Theres a decent amount in the toei anime Z
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I have some quotes about
Nullflowerblush
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Teleportation Zone.
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I believe this should be enough, where to say that the teleportation goes to the location instantly
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IMO it always was valid. The barrier statement establishes a 2x difference can force battles into entire paradigm shifts. Then you have fights like Vegeta Vs Dodoria, where Vegeta was only 2K above in PL and thrashing Dodoria and was maintaining a certifiable advantage against Zarbon Pre transformation. Also, a lot of the guides say that Gohan was going “all out” the (1) entire (2) time (3), not holding back whatsoever when he was fighting normal Perfect Cell or the Jrs. and while Cell was more powerful than Goku, he wasn’t unreasonably so. It’s made PRETTY clear that Goku was incredibly close to Cell’s Level.
So for comparison’s sake it’s made clear (at least to me) that Goku was only decent percentages of Cell’s power, which further substantiates the fraction-like power amplification comparisons they make.
Goku is close to but not as strong as Cell, and Cell isn’t as as strong as Gohan, but can’t be defined because Gohan literally wasn’t holding back whatsoever, Super Perfect Cell was around to or slightly above Gohan, and Gohan + Goku (Whether you think it’s advice or actual amp) is higher than SP.Cell.
On top of all that, while YES, Gohan’s anger is his vessel into reaching potential is technically different than what Vegeta does against Beerus, we also know that Gohan’s potential is essentially a well of almost never ending power, so you can just reasonably deduce his rage was funneling more of his potential outwards than the form naturally gave him. It’s also just not a major leap to assume that they’re similar processes.
And in the Buu Saga Gohan went SSJ2 and yet still was not “as strong as he could have been” had he also been angry, or trained. So there is a distinction made—Just retroactively. So the SSJ2 multiplier seems fine. At least to me.
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Most people I talk to interpret the scene as a mental amp once they go deeper into it.
DivineAura44
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Are you talking about the one that says you have to be 2x your opponent for barrier to work?
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Yeah, the barrier statement says you need to be at least twice your opponents level to totally nullify an attack like we see with a barrier.
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instantaneous doesn't necessarily mean 0 time, so it would have to be more specific
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