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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Found a couple new statements for the Pendulum Room, if anyone's interested👍
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I remember that back during the Toeiverse cosmology upgrade thread, one concern raised was whether or not the statement that "all of space-time across past/present/future was created in the Pendulum Room" was literal, and someone (I think Ottavio) pointed out that Popo was born in the afterlife, which makes him a reliable source. With these scans though, we have more proof that the Pendulum Room statement is literal for future threads.
 
Full pages are out for the chapter. Even better scaling lmao.
The Gammas and Saiyamen combine their powers and visibly hurt Cell Max, all of them fighting at the same level. Cell Max blitzes everyone and targets Trunks, knocking him out of Super Saiyan but he survives the blow and isn't even knocked out. Cell Max then smashes Gamma 2 away in the same way.

This is undeniable. Goten and Trunks are scaling directly to Gamma 1 and 2. They should be as powerful as Ultimate Gohan and Ultimate Piccolo in Super Saiyan 1.
 
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Illusions, right?
Only the second time (with the Human Z Fighters). The first time Goku legitimately travels through time and meets Master Mutaito.

It's also weird because they're just blatantly different rooms with different names and visuals, even if Popo says they are the same.
 
Full pages are out for the chapter. Even better scaling lmao.
The Gammas and Saiyamen combine their powers and visibly hurt Cell Max, all of them fighting at the same level. Cell Max blitzes everyone and targets Trunks, knocking him out of Super Saiyan but he survives the blow and isn't even knocked out. Cell Max then smashes Gamma 2 away in the same way.

This is undeniable. Goten and Trunks are scaling directly to Gamma 1 and 2. They should be as powerful as Ultimate Gohan and Ultimate Piccolo in Super Saiyan 1.
Like... how? Narratively, how did they get so strong? Gaming? Did they clutch up in the gulag before coming to fight Cell Max?

Just have Goten beat Halo 2 on Legendary and he can defeat Zeno
 
Keep in mind they were actually stronger in the prequel story. This is them after six months with no training. I'm sure if they had been able to keep it up they would be at least on par with Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta.
 
Kakarot you have to listen to me Kakarot hop on Destiny 2 Kakarot this raid is the only way we can defeat Frieza Kakarot
Goku and Vegeta after returning to Earth after training relentlessly for years under the most powerful and wise martial artist in the entire universe and fighting the most powerful possible beings in reality just to get completely mogged by their teenage sons playing Fortnite.
 
Full pages are out for the chapter. Even better scaling lmao.
The Gammas and Saiyamen combine their powers and visibly hurt Cell Max, all of them fighting at the same level. Cell Max blitzes everyone and targets Trunks, knocking him out of Super Saiyan but he survives the blow and isn't even knocked out. Cell Max then smashes Gamma 2 away in the same way.

This is undeniable. Goten and Trunks are scaling directly to Gamma 1 and 2. They should be as powerful as Ultimate Gohan and Ultimate Piccolo in Super Saiyan 1.
I wonder if the "fighting together gives you an amp" thing is still a thing in the narrative. It may not but this could explain how everyone is relevant during the fight
 
Found a couple new statements for the Pendulum Room, if anyone's interested👍
mW7tOCd.jpg
IFJ6xA9.jpg

I remember that back during the Toeiverse cosmology upgrade thread, one concern raised was whether or not the statement that "all of space-time across past/present/future was created in the Pendulum Room" was literal, and someone (I think Ottavio) pointed out that Popo was born in the afterlife, which makes him a reliable source. With these scans though, we have more proof that the Pendulum Room statement is literal for future threads.
Oh wait, I got a few things mixed up. So there are two rooms: the Pendulum Room and the Time Room. The Time Room only sends your mind back, while the Pendulum Room genuinely sends you back in time.

Pendulum/Time Room Statements
-All of space-time across past/present/future is created here.

-Genuinely sends you back in time.

-Daizenshuu states that all time periods are created there (still confirming the first statement is literal).

Other Unnamed Time Room Statements
-Past/present/future intersect here.

-Takes your mind on a journey.

-Daizenshuu states it allows you to time travel via your mind.

Either way, the Pendulum room statements basically confirm that the Living World or at least Macrocosm has its own temporality, which should come in hand for any tier 2 Macrocosm threads in the future.
 
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i'm still thinking zamasu and goku black should be separated
and buu too
and android 21
Zamasu and Goku Black originate in different timelines, hence the page split.
Besides, existing in a different body is a fairly significant difference.
Aren’t Zamasu and Black’s profiles already split? I’m confused

For Buu a profile split would be good if there were major differences but there isn’t any it’s just a stronger version of Buu

Android 21 only has a profile for DBFZ far as I’m aware
 
For Buu a profile split would be good if there were major differences but there isn’t any it’s just a stronger version of Buu
Super Buu, Evil Buu and Kid Buu are completely different in personality then one another, they are pretty much different characters
 
Aren’t Zamasu and Black’s profiles already split? I’m confused
Present Zamasu and Goku Black, not Goku Black and Future Zamasu.
For Buu a profile split would be good if there were major differences but there isn’t any it’s just a stronger version of Buu
By the end of the Buu Saga, all three versions are completely different characters. Kid Buu is the original, Innocent Buu was originally Kid Buu after absorbing the Supreme Kai before fissioning into Good Buu, and Evil Buu was a fission of Innocent Buu.
Android 21 only has a profile for DBFZ far as I’m aware
Good Android 21 and Evil Android 21 are different characters, fissions of the original.
 
Super Buu, Evil Buu and Kid Buu are completely different in personality then one another, they are pretty much different characters
Present Zamasu and Goku Black, not Goku Black and Future Zamasu.

By the end of the Buu Saga, all three versions are completely different characters. Kid Buu is the original, Innocent Buu was originally Kid Buu after absorbing the Supreme Kai before fissioning into Good Buu, and Evil Buu was a fission of Innocent Buu.

Good Android 21 and Evil Android 21 are different characters, fissions of the original.
I see that clears up my confusion though most of it doesn’t seem needed since the characters barely have anything individually
 
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