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Steven Universe is so back

StretchSebe said:
Second one was that I was reminded that all of Steven Universe takes place within a galaxy, and we get a vague sense of range between homeworld and earth when he beams back. He beams past two solar systems at least; there are a few planets in a scene which could be indicative of him beaming past a third. Could help with range by using average solar system lengths for Corrupting Light speed.
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The home planet is from another galaxy.

It's amazing how diamonds have enough range and speed to do this.

By the way, if you use this calculation for the attack speed of the diamonds. But was it accepted? I don't see a calculation member accepting it, even the retired one.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
The home planet is from another galaxy.

It's amazing how diamonds have enough range and speed to do this.

By the way, if you use this calculation for the attack speed of the diamonds. But was it accepted? I don't see a calculation member accepting it, even the retired one.
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Meant to say that Steven says he 'saved the galaxy.' Which I guess he could be referring to the one earth is in. I'm not sure though, considering how much he emphasizes saving earth specifically before, and throughout the movie, as well as Yellow Diamond saying 'the last 6,000 years are now the biggest galactic embarrassment that's ever happened' while on the way to Homeworld (and given how stupidly big galaxies can be).

I'd have to see other evidence to be sure it is, or is more than one galaxy away from earth.

Wait also, I forgot Spinel grew her hands to start pummeling Steven's shield, and eventually clasped her hands to smash with far less charge time, and the entire top of the injector (diamond part) fragmented through. Might have slept on her a bit.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
By the way, if you use this calculation for the attack speed of the diamonds. But was it accepted? I don't see a calculation member accepting it, even the retired one.
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Oh right, I think we did. Would be much earlier in this thread, but it did come up for speed at least. Think the ap was rejected initially, and that we agreed on that due to the nature of the attack being more about each diamond's involved abilities (form, emotion, and mind control). May have to revisit it with speed though.
Zabazab said:
In Log Date 7 15 2, Garnet says to Peridot:
Garnet: "You can see Homeworld's galaxy from here."
Peridot: Gazes up "You're right."
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Well then. That's pretty explicit lol
 
Question, When the "closest galaxy to the Milky Way" is used as the calculation of "the speed of corrupting light" is used... Wouldn't it also be worth using the "Canis Major Overdensity"?, is it a "dwarf irregular galaxy" 25,000 light years
 
I believe Andromeda is the only visible Galaxy to the unaided eye, iirc. Which is why it is used as the closest thing to "Homeworld's Galaxy" which could be real or fictional.
 
In lieu of them being solar systems, and Homeworld being galaxies away (or at least one).
Sparkive said:
I decided to do the calculation of the speed of corrupting light, and obviously it is veryyyyyyyyyyyy low
vsbattles.fandom.com

Corrupting Light Speed (Steven Universe)

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
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The corrupting light is probably much faster given the enormous distance upgrade from moon to at least one galaxy.

Also, on calc's, I did an extra one for Ruby casually vaporizing the pool in the infamous episode.
 
StretchSebe said:
In lieu of them being solar systems, and Homeworld being galaxies away (or at least one).

The corrupting light is probably much faster given the enormous distance upgrade from moon to at least one galaxy.
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The version from one galaxy to another is the original, mine is just a recalculation
Considering that we will use the distance of another galaxy, I think it is enough to use that one (only the speed part, you know what I think about the Corrupting light AP)
 
If I had a nickel for every time I missed the calculation of a specific stat in an older blog, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but I don't strive to get a third.

Also, thanks. It makes sense Ruby would have similar levels of environmental destruction.
 
Despite being on opposite ends of the Homeworld Caste System, Rubies and Sapphires are actually both the same mineral; corrundum, with some impurities to give colour.
 
I'll say it now, because it occurred to me now.
Pearl shouldn't scale to High 7-C normally
I mean, of course, she was able to pierce through Peridot's pod, but this is obviously Piercing Damage (because well... it's a spear and it literally piercing the pod).
 
Sparkive said:
I'll say it now, because it occurred to me now.
Pearl shouldn't scale to High 7-C normally
I mean, of course, she was able to pierce through Peridot's pod, but this is obviously Piercing Damage (because well... it's a spear and it literally piercing the pod).
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Probably.

Hope it doesn't take too long to get the Steven Universe calculations evaluated and back on pages despite what seems to be a current backlog.
 
Finally getting calculations evaluated again. Def was on some sort of list lmao

Will hopefully get the SU calc evaluations started up again. Besides that, what's been up with all yall in the last month?
 
Sparkive said:
University and my birthday
Within the wiki, one thread from Professional wrestling and a friend asked me for help with a calculation for the wizard copy of Cuphead verse... Outside of that I have been somewhat inactive
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Hey, happy birthday! And hope that you've been keeping up on your academic work, and managing the life-work balance well. It's fine to be inactive: Irl obligations obviously are a higher priority. Is nice you helped with Cuphead still.
 
so... bump?
When I have time I will review the entire thread and summarize it.
 
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The thread is from StretchSebe

StretchSebe and I started compiling several calcs that already existed in the VS Battles wiki, but were not being used, including those that weren't being used or those that were hidden in the profiles.
StretchSebe also recalculated and calculated several feats.

Based on this last calculation, the idea was considered that the verse was not High 7-C, and/or that Spinel only scale to Garnet in LS (I think the last thing is what gained the most strength)

Maverick_Zero_X brought up a cloud feat from the first chapter
I found more unused calculations
StretchSebe recalced and calced again the Spinel calc (Last_ditch_efforts):

Aside from that, I tried to recalculate the speed of light corruption feats (to fit it coming from the moon, which is currently accepted in the profiles), and accidentally proved that the light couldn't come from the moon (contradicting our profiles).
I argued against scaling any of that power to the profiles

The discussion continued (For my part, I think there are many things that diamonds should not escalate to that, due to many factors that I will not repeat.)
Apart from that, a problem with the current diamond profiles was solved, which did not explain where the AP came from.
There was also talk that the Cluster could probably scale above the Diamonds (and below Steven Monster).

Another StretchSebe calculation

Also, I brought up that Pearl shouldn't normally scale to the Peridod ship feat (what they currently scale to on halfof the profiles) because she used literal piercing damage to achieve it

That's all
From what I understand, several feats that helped characters scale to High 7-C were nerfed. Additionally, concerns were raised about Pearl and Spinel's scaling to High 7-C (with Pearl scaling only with piercing damage and Spinel needing to use her special abilities to even be able to perform a 7-C feat). This would lead to a downgrade of everyone not directly comparable to Garnet or higher.
Aside from that, the possibility of Cluster being stronger than Diamonds (that the Cluster in its hand state would scale to them) appeared.

Clearly, the profiles need repairs,
and not just AP issues, but also things like broken links, outdated scaling on forgotten profiles, and profiles filler (probably more than that; the verse in general needs an overhaul).

Unfortunately, StretchSebe hasn't appeared on the wiki for quite some time, who seemed to be the leader of the operation.
 
Sparkive said:
The thread is from StretchSebe

StretchSebe and I started compiling several calcs that already existed in the VS Battles wiki, but were not being used, including those that weren't being used or those that were hidden in the profiles.
StretchSebe also recalculated and calculated several feats.

Based on this last calculation, the idea was considered that the verse was not High 7-C, and/or that Spinel only scale to Garnet in LS (I think the last thing is what gained the most strength)

Maverick_Zero_X brought up a cloud feat from the first chapter
I found more unused calculations
StretchSebe recalced and calced again the Spinel calc (Last_ditch_efforts):

Aside from that, I tried to recalculate the speed of light corruption feats (to fit it coming from the moon, which is currently accepted in the profiles), and accidentally proved that the light couldn't come from the moon (contradicting our profiles).
I argued against scaling any of that power to the profiles

The discussion continued (For my part, I think there are many things that diamonds should not escalate to that, due to many factors that I will not repeat.)
Apart from that, a problem with the current diamond profiles was solved, which did not explain where the AP came from.
There was also talk that the Cluster could probably scale above the Diamonds (and below Steven Monster).

Another StretchSebe calculation

Also, I brought up that Pearl shouldn't normally scale to the Peridod ship feat (what they currently scale to on halfof the profiles) because she used literal piercing damage to achieve it

That's all
From what I understand, several feats that helped characters scale to High 7-C were nerfed. Additionally, concerns were raised about Pearl and Spinel's scaling to High 7-C (with Pearl scaling only with piercing damage and Spinel needing to use her special abilities to even be able to perform a 7-C feat). This would lead to a downgrade of everyone not directly comparable to Garnet or higher.
Aside from that, the possibility of Cluster being stronger than Diamonds (that the Cluster in its hand state would scale to them) appeared.

Clearly, the profiles need repairs,
and not just AP issues, but also things like broken links, outdated scaling on forgotten profiles, and profiles filler (probably more than that; the verse in general needs an overhaul).

Unfortunately, StretchSebe hasn't appeared on the wiki for quite some time, who seemed to be the leader of the operation.
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Yeah I share the same concerns mostly everything is in terrible conditon and the calcs are heavily outdated, even some of the recalcs need to be changed drastically, I've already started working on stuff myself
 
Huh. I was planning on a crt that was a possible upgrade for Pink Steven (DW, nothing outlandish like 4-A or anything) with the implementation and removal of calcs but it seems like the latter it's already planned.
Excellent, i'll help out however i can
 
Sparkive said:
The thread is from StretchSebe

StretchSebe and I started compiling several calcs that already existed in the VS Battles wiki, but were not being used, including those that weren't being used or those that were hidden in the profiles.
StretchSebe also recalculated and calculated several feats.

Based on this last calculation, the idea was considered that the verse was not High 7-C, and/or that Spinel only scale to Garnet in LS (I think the last thing is what gained the most strength)

Maverick_Zero_X brought up a cloud feat from the first chapter
I found more unused calculations
StretchSebe recalced and calced again the Spinel calc (Last_ditch_efforts):

Aside from that, I tried to recalculate the speed of light corruption feats (to fit it coming from the moon, which is currently accepted in the profiles), and accidentally proved that the light couldn't come from the moon (contradicting our profiles).
I argued against scaling any of that power to the profiles

The discussion continued (For my part, I think there are many things that diamonds should not escalate to that, due to many factors that I will not repeat.)
Apart from that, a problem with the current diamond profiles was solved, which did not explain where the AP came from.
There was also talk that the Cluster could probably scale above the Diamonds (and below Steven Monster).

Another StretchSebe calculation

Also, I brought up that Pearl shouldn't normally scale to the Peridod ship feat (what they currently scale to on halfof the profiles) because she used literal piercing damage to achieve it

That's all
From what I understand, several feats that helped characters scale to High 7-C were nerfed. Additionally, concerns were raised about Pearl and Spinel's scaling to High 7-C (with Pearl scaling only with piercing damage and Spinel needing to use her special abilities to even be able to perform a 7-C feat). This would lead to a downgrade of everyone not directly comparable to Garnet or higher.
Aside from that, the possibility of Cluster being stronger than Diamonds (that the Cluster in its hand state would scale to them) appeared.

Clearly, the profiles need repairs,
and not just AP issues, but also things like broken links, outdated scaling on forgotten profiles, and profiles filler (probably more than that; the verse in general needs an overhaul).

Unfortunately, StretchSebe hasn't appeared on the wiki for quite some time, who seemed to be the leader of the operation.
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Im going to be revising this verse soon, there are numerous tier 6 and 5 feats that scale to the main cast
 
Dalesean027 said:
W welcome to the effort, yeah I had some stuff planned myself and a lot of stuff needing calcs and/or recalcs to be viable.

There is a lot of stuff getting downgrade and some upgrades too
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After my revisions the majority of the cast will be tier 6 or above
 
WeeklyBattles said:
After my revisions the majority of the cast will be tier 6 or above
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Hmm we'll disagree on some shit then i can already say because imo majority of the cast not at the tier of quartz soldiers are consistently only tier 8 and have several dozen anti-feats for higher stuf

Lots of the current calcs on the vwrse page are ***** too and need to be axed or end up way lower when done properly too
 
Dalesean027 said:
Hmm we'll disagree on some shit then i can already say because imo majority of the cast not at the tier of quartz soldiers are consistently only tier 8 and have several dozen anti-feats for higher stuff
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Im sorry to hear that, i was hoping to make this revision as easy and painless as possible
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Im sorry to hear that, i was hoping to make this revision as easy and painless as possible
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🤷‍♂️is what it is, now I mean if we were talking SU movie onwards I could agree tho because Base Steven has like 2 or 3 either high tier 8 to low~mid tier 7 feats
 
Dalesean027 said:
🤷‍♂️is what it is, now I mean if we were talking SU movie onwards I could agree tho because Base Steven has like 2 or 3 either high tier 8 to low~mid tier 7 feats
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...Steven has like five tier 5 feats and a few tier 4 feats

Anything below Tier 7 is horrendous downplay
 
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