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Seems like she just used a horn to shake everything around her. Could be something, though I'm not an expert.
That should also be true.By the way, Spinel should be able to get LS by the simple act of being able to move his fist while it's giant,
I have no clue if this is accurate or not.Not sure if this calc is correct but here’s a calc dispersal feat from the first episode
Gems disperses clouds
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1. It's not the first episode, it's the end of the first seasonNot sure if this calc is correct but here’s a calc dispersal feat from the first episode
Gems disperses clouds
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1. Gems have no genderSpinel's a female, btw. She's not a boy.
The feat is them dispersing clouds by team attacking the Centipede Monster in Gem Glow, the first episode.1. It's not the first episode, it's the end of the first season
She's referred to as a she though iirc.1. Gems have no gender
It's okay.2. Google translator's fault (I speak Spanish)
I posted the feat in the calc request thread. Hopefully someone will do it.Has anyone calculated this feat? They are clouds, so we might get a good result (although it would only apply to the giant fist itself)...Wow, looks like I'm a Steven Universe dowplayer
Ohhh... Ok, I'm sorry
Since it was a team attack, do we divide the results we get by 3?
Yep.Since it was a team attack, do we divide the results we get by 3?
Bro's getting hyped for midSTEVEN UNIVERSE LETS GOOOO
Nah it's fine: I was just saying Spinel wouldn't be that much worse in tiering than the average Crystal Gem even if she wouldn't likely win fights against them.Also, Steven is likely superior and was simply holding back. (Steven could already push Spinel simply by breaking his bubble hard)
Anyway, in order not to be so downplayer
Has anyone calculated this feat? They are clouds, so we might get a good result (although it would only apply to the giant fist itself)...Wow, looks like I'm a Steven Universe dowplayer
I was actually planning on doing that alongside the crater feat again. Had started last night briefly. Looks like I missed a lot last night lolI don't see how it would only apply to the giant fist only.
But regardless, that should be calculated, as that likely is another tier 7 feat.
Nice!Also that Sapphire cloud calc I did?
Realized for viewing distance I used 20 meters for the calculation of base area accidently instead of kilometers: The average listed on the Cloud Calculations page (which I was using ) was 20, and I had flubbed the unit of measurement.
Wild upgrade upon fixing it.
Damn bro only 9-A for the cloud feat?It's finished. Clouds were 9-A - 8-C, but crater is still a solid 7-C feat.
Spinel vs Steven Calculations
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Mostly due to the viewing distance. The distance we see it at is really close unlike with the Sapphire feat where we see the clouds from ground level.Damn bro only 9-A for the cloud feat?
At least we're getting consistent tier 8-7 feats.
Great as always, StretchSebeIt's finished. Clouds were 9-A - 8-C, but crater is still a solid 7-C feat.
Spinel vs Steven Calculations
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Thank you. If we're granted greater distance the clouds thing would probably be much better, but yeah, for now it can just be a little prelude to the actual crater feat, which is is more a feat of Durability for Steven as you say as well.Great as always, StretchSebe
- The cloud feat was... disappointing, and I had very low expectations (High 8-C).
- The case of the crater feat is great, the best thing is that Steven doesn't get much damage, so the feat can serve as a support feat for some higher feat (probably the one feat that already scales half a verse). On the other hand, Spinel shouldn't scale the feat as normal, considering that this feat is triggered by a move obviously stronger than she can do without enlarging his fist.
Find how many times "feat" is mentioned in the comment, I'll give you a cookie to the first right
I can't believe their corrupting light is only Relativistic+ smh my headI decided to do the calculation of the speed of corrupting light, and obviously it is veryyyyyyyyyyyy low
Corrupting Light Speed (Steven Universe)
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At least it's still higher than the speed of the other gemsI can't believe their corrupting light is only Relativistic+ smh my head
The calculation that gives that level to the corrupting light is based on the distance of the moon from the earth, so it should not changeAlso, what'd the inverse newton law for joules be if possible? Still country level?
Wait... is that the moon? sh*t
For the moon feat, right?Outlier
I won't go into the whole statistical outlier vs statistical anomaly argument, but I think this would be more a situation where a character is capable of producing an attack of a far greater tier than they're physically at. Like in DBZ how Radditz was defeated with a charged Ki attack by Piccolo even though Piccolo was physically below Radditz and the attack in tier. SU is heavily inspired from many anime, after all. I'm sure with all the metal stuff the diamonds fracture and break in Season 5 (just in Episode 2 Yellow casually cuts a huge chunk of the court room out) we can find some feats for their more immediate tiering. Speaking of:Outlier
The corrupting light is the attack of 3 diamonds, not just one's attack. Like with the feat you mentioned, we would divide the AP output by 3 because of this. Though it'd still be 14.24993308 Yottatons per diamond which is still the same tieringSince it was a team attack, do we divide the results we get by 3?
As we've discussed, the Corrupting Light attack itself is weaker than it would have been due to the absence of pink when they performed it.I was referring to the solar system version (although I was joking)... Now I'm serious
Below is just my arguments... my bias arguments, but that are:
- If they are a solar system, what use is the Cluster?
I was going into this in the Baki General Thread, but Striking strength and AP require a very different type of strength than Lifting Strength. In their case, fast-twitch vs slow-twitch fiber muscles. In this case... they're light, but probably still something similar.
- Peridot is shocked to see that Steven is stronger than the Cluster, seconds after he literally knocked everyone out (including the diamonds).
- Lapizlazuli is able to hold Monster Steven momentarily, who climbs above the diamonds.
- Lapislazuli is capable of creating solar system chains? (Lapis had some time to prepare the chains, unlike when they fought Blue Diamond, where she could force herself out, but the maximum possible Lapis can with the water from the earth is High 6-A)
I again refer to the inverse square law and math. I'm not sure where it will end up tbh.
- The corrupting light does not even cause physical damage, even though the calculation is correct, why is it even used for Ap?, the gems were corrupted, humans were not affected and all objects were completely unaffected
Oh yeah, I also saw this in a calc that wasn't evaluated if I'm remembering right.Hmm, is there a reason Gem Steven's combat or at least reaction speed doesn't scale to White Diamond's attack speed, given he casually blocked her beams from extremely close range?
There was only a single Cluster, the Cluster on Earth. There can be no post-Cluster Earth due to the fact that the Cluster emerging would destroy the planet. Fusion between different Gems was never even a thing thought to exist prior to Garnet, and the Fusion Experiments both started and ended with Earth and the War.As for Cluster, it's mostly about the creation of 'ideal' worlds for Gems (as the Diamonds envision).
Peridot finds the plans of how earth would be designed post-cluster when they went to the moon base before she finally defected to the Crystal Gems.
IIRC, this is why clusters themselves are designed differently for any given planet, and given the horrendous implications of how clusters are made (from the shards of broken gems), it's likely just the Diamonds 'recycling' the excesses of their brutal regime to continue expanding their colonial efforts in space.
You're right. Checking the wiki, it does seem that the Cluster, along with it's prototypes, were specifically tailor made for Earth, and that there never was indication that there were others made or used.There was only a single Cluster, the Cluster on Earth. There can be no post-Cluster Earth due to the fact that the Cluster emerging would destroy the planet. Fusion between different Gems was never even a thing thought to exist prior to Garnet, and the Fusion Experiments both started and ended with Earth and the War.
That said, the Cluster's existence as a Geo-Weapon does not disprove any higher AP tier for the Diamonds, since Warships and Soldier Gems are also weaker than a Diamond.