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Frost vs Flame: Aokiji vs King
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DaMonkeMan
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King FRB
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what does FRB mean?
DaMonkeMan
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For Reasons Below.
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Aokiji's advantages:
King's advantages:
- AP
- Possible dura neg via frost
King's advantages:
- AP stat amps to even the AP gap, if not surpass Aokiji's AP. Even without amps, he matched Marco and Buso Zoro, so the gap isn't that big.
- Speed amps go brr
- Lunarian durability goes brrr. Enma Unleashed couldn't hurt this dude, Aokiji's AP isn't doing much better.
- Fire counters frost dura neg
- Arguably better ranged attacks (
the anime version of Karyudon is canon and you can't convince me otherwise) - One-shot moves (Jackpot, Pride Stake, Omori Karyudon)
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How do you think their haki compares to each other?
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Not sure how good Aokiji's Buso is, but King's scales to 1035 Zoro, as while Zoro was overpowering him their haki clashed evenly.
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Is this what happened? I remember zoro using haki in their clash but I dont think king did the same.
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In chapter 1032 he easily overpowered Zoro even when Zoro had Buso, but in this panel in chapter 1035, his Buso matches Zoro's buso but Zoro has better AP.
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Ok I see what you mean, can you explain how zoro has better ap if king is capable of matching him?
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You can have superior AP but equal buso haki to someone.
Zoro was pushing him back, but their buso swords were clashing evenly.
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In what sense does zoro have superior ap If he's equal in buso?
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Eh, King should scale to Jack, so the stamina gap isn't massive.
I mean, he may have superior AP, but King even in base with a sword but no Haki isn't far behind, and he has plenty of amps.
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Do you vote Kaido FRA?
And I 100% agree with you on the jobbers that are the Sweet Commanders.
FR.
King himself flat-out exceeds Kaido in durability.
And he defeated Marco, who clashed with the Admirals and Big Meme.
Hell, King saw Big Mom coming up the waterfall and was like "eh, I got this".
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DaMonkeMan
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Only King, ngl.
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Kuzan wins via outlasting in stamina
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Even with all of King's advantages?
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I think Kuzan can endure everything from KING since he was able to fight Akainu for 10 days non stop. Also i think Kuzan has better battle iq and would find out King's weakness too. I think King can beat new admirals but not the 2 Admirals who fought for the FA position. And Kuzan might be able to find a chance to freeze King to his bones if he catched him. So ye i think Kuzan takes the dub
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Kuzan Wincons imo:
Ice Manipulation
Environmental Advantage
Haki Mastery
Stamina
AP
Combat Experience
Ice Manipulation
Environmental Advantage
Haki Mastery
Stamina
AP
Combat Experience
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AP is about equal (although King does have multiple one-shot options like Jackpot, Pride Stake, and Omori Karyudon), but the rest sounds about right.
Also Grace.
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The AP of both are currently at continent level instead of multi continent right? because I heard OP was downgraded from High 6A to 6A? I'm a bit confused
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Both will be 6-A after the revisions, that's true.
But the top tier scaling itself within OP for those within the same tier can get a bit...complicated.
That said, King matched Marco, who threw hands with the admirals and Big Meme, so his AP should be equal to Aokiji's.
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I think Luffy and Kaido will be the only 2 people who still keep High 6-A rating thanks to 2 attacks are Barjang Gun and Shoryu: Kaen Hakke
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Kaen Hakke doesn't scale to the Bajrang Gun calc IIRC.
