DC Comics - Lucifer Abilities

[Robo432343]

Yes this is great, but it wouldn't get rid of Lucifer's possible rating for nep. thought this might remove it

Angels have no real form. They are shapeless and formless essences

Nah i realized this doesn't make any sense

Possible NEP is fine with me

 

[Beyond_transcending]

We have rules against social media questions that receive brief nods of noncommittal agreement from an author, and as Deagonx said, this was not even the same author in charge of the relevant stories.

Tyler didn't ask a question, he made a statement, which the author agreed to

 

[Antvasima]

An unexplained nod of agreement is not sufficient according to our rules. If they make a schematic explanation themselves about a story that they have written we may consider it, if it does fits well with and does not contradict the official information from the company that actually owns the characters in question.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Imaginary Axis' interview is filled with leading questions. Most of the answers are just Tyler making his own conclusions and Scott Snyder agreeing. Pretty sure that is unusable by guidelines. I am not sure why this point is stretched at all. It doesn't matter if its the Overvoid or not. Hell, the whole Overvoid thing is brought by Gasper, who flipflops from calling it Overvoid and possibly a random Void. The problem was regarding whether the Void was enough for a NEP.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, strongly agreed.

 

[Robo432343]

I just saw michaels profile
why does he have mind manipulation?!?

 

[Transcending]

I just saw michaels profile
why does he have mind manipulation?!?

And why does he have Nigh-Omniscience?

 

[Robo432343]

And why does he have Nigh-Omniscience?

probably coz he renews every atom of creation

 

[Transcending]

probably coz he renews every atom of creation

Isn't that just AP(and some abilities)?

 

[Robo432343]

Isn't that just AP(and some abilities)?

him renewing every moment and atom of creation has something to do with omnscient idk-
but yeah that is an AP feat which needs to be removed

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Copy paste of some of Lucifer's abilities.

 

[Deagonx]

Why doesn't it matter if it's a question or a statement?

The words don't come from the author. That's what matters.

But he isn't the author of Lucifer so it's irrelevant either way.

 

[Antvasima]

I just saw michaels profile
why does he have mind manipulation?!?

And why does he have Nigh-Omniscience?

If there is no valid explanations for abilities that are not self-evident, they should probably be removed.

 

[Antvasima]

The words don't come from the author. That's what matters.

But he isn't the author of Lucifer so it's irrelevant either way.

Yes.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm with Deagon

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Robo432343]

I want to add BFR on Michaels profile

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Can we just focus on Lucifer first? Also, that's not BFR.

 

[Robo432343]

Can we just focus on Lucifer first?

alright

 

[Transcending]

If there is no valid explanations for abilities that are not self-evident, they should probably be removed.

Removing Nigh-Omniscience seems fine then, the question is what we downgrade it to

 

[Robo432343]

im pretty sure his omnscience comes from this

anyway lets fokus on lucifers abilities

 

[Transcending]

im pretty sure his omnscience comes from this

anyway lets fokus on lucifers abilities

Issue is that, that only references his creation abilities and AP, nothing related to intelligence.

 

[Robo432343]

Issue is that, that only references his creation abilities and AP, nothing related to intelligence.

i mean he should be comparable to lucifer in terms of intelligence anyway-

 

[Robo432343]

Can we just focus on Lucifer first? Also, that's not BFR.

Yo this can be a vertigo hax revision thread


why wouldn't it be BFR? he can banish lucifer from heaven

 

[Transcending]

i mean he should be comparable to lucifer in terms of intelligence anyway-

Why is Lucifer Nigh-Omniscient?

 

[Robo432343]

Why is Lucifer Nigh-Omniscient?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that the omniscience that was referred to was Yahweh's, as he foresaw what Lucifer would respond.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

That was about The Presence. He does have Cosmic Awareness. Though I am not sure what the line between Awareness and Nigh Omniscience is.

 

[Robo432343]

THIS

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, the last scan above likely qualifies.

 

[Vasco]

I once read a book lucifer was called Nigh-omniscient but I don't remember the exact book sadly.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

Does Lucifer's profile page use the last scan as a justification for his intelligence?

 

[Robo432343]

Okay. No problem.

Does Lucifer's profile page use the last scan as a justification for his intelligence?

That scan is talking about a different creation isn't it??

"when the next creation is born"

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I think that Lucifer created his own multiverse.

 

[Robo432343]

Lucifer wouldn't be nigh omniscient in the creation where he was made

he would be nigh omniscient in a completely different creation because he processed information in a completely different one-

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Sigh. It was just a variation of Presence's Creation. I assume his Nigh Omniscience comes more from his ability to know things. He was able to know the Basanos actions and it also seems he is atleast aware of the unfolding of the Plan.

Which makes sense I guess. He is able to see the happenings in Yahweh's Creations from his own and Basanos' attack on his Creation.

 

[Robo432343]

And Michael is comparable to Lucifer (i think)

 

[Transcending]

Sigh. It was just a variation of Presence's Creation. I assume his Nigh Omniscience comes more from his ability to know things. He was able to know the Basanos actions and it also seems he is atleast aware of the unfolding of the Plan.

Which makes sense I guess. He is able to see the happenings in Yahweh's Creations from his own and Basanos' attack on his Creation.

Does that quality for Nigh-Omniscience?

Also, what happened to Organic Manip and Healing?

 

[Robo432343]

Does that quality for Nigh-Omniscience?

isn't that just extraordinary genius-

Also, what happened to Organic Manip and Healing?

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