Delta vs Sasuke Uchiha

[Shadowbokunohero]

mb I didn't stop to consider the same scenario meant kids are there so yeah no PS.

iirc couldn't Delta only Absorb with her eye? Sasuke's Rinnegan absorption should be his entire body and he can absorb chakra straight from their bodies rather than just Jutsu.

he can absorb from his his palms, but it turns into chakra, delta absorbs jutsu's wholly and fires it back

I mean I agree he's better but I think they both should be more skilled and experienced than Delta. I don't think the gap is hilariously wide and Sasuke's precog should close the gap somewhat.

nah people dont thint think about this but naruto was folding people with Millennia worth of combat experience in the manga sasuke gets folded by fused momo quickly, in the anime he holds his own along side naruto but never 1 v1. thats not say i think delta = Naruto though because LOL, but i dont think it's a skill stomp for sasuke. Sasuke is prob more skilled overall given that he uses kenjutsu as well.

this is more self inserty but he could have a clone summon Naraka while he stalls. Not that he'd use it in character anyways.

clones might be knocked out by delta's shockwaves

Fair.

I could honestly see that happening if the fight did involve Sasuke, he'd make a plan with Boruto to open the portal and have Boruto stand in front of it and Amenotejikara Delta before kicking her into it.

thats fair.

Why wouldn't it work? because she's a cyborg?

Visual genjutsu wont work on things with like cybernetic eyes, you would have to insert the chakra directly.

 

[Avengershows]

The Portal thing is a big wincon for Sasuke however I don't expect him to pull it off. Like, if Delta even lands one of her special attacks like the laser eyes or whatever else Sasuke would be kind of done for, and from what I understand Sasuke is a bit slower than Nartuo so there shouldn't be that many problems for him. Plus there's also Delta's tactic of using Himawari or Boruto as bait, where I highly doubt Kawaki would go in to save Sasuke.
There's also the fact that Sasuke lacks a whole ass arm which when it comes to hand to hand combat would bring him at a disadvantage given that Delta is able to box with Naruto

 

[karzen]

Sasuke,chidori nagashi or amaterasu

 

[ssgengar]

if Delta even lands one of her special attacks like the laser eyes or whatever else Sasuke would be kind of done for,

Sure but even kawaki reacted to it, I honestly don’t see her beams tagging him

Plus there's also Delta's tactic of using Himawari or Boruto as bait, where I highly doubt Kawaki would go in to save Sasuke.

Sasuke’s teleportation would be a perfect counter to this situation if he needed to, and I think there’s an argument to be made that kawaki would still save himawari

There's also the fact that Sasuke lacks a whole ass arm which when it comes to hand to hand combat would bring him at a disadvantage given that Delta is able to box with Naruto

its been what 16 years, at this point he knows how to fight with 1 arm, he’s most likely not gonna straight up just box delta like naruto did. He mostly uses hax with a bunch of piercing attacks (sword, chidori, fuma shuriken etc) and he went for the lethal blow against jigen, after seeing the regen of her arms and legs he def going for the body or head

 

[Avengershows]

Sure but even kawaki reacted to it, I honestly don’t see her beams tagging him

Naruto nearly got hit multiple times, but I do see your point.

Sasuke’s teleportation would be a perfect counter to this situation if he needed to, and I think there’s an argument to be made that kawaki would still save himawari

Fair enough

its been what 16 years, at this point he knows how to fight with 1 arm, he’s most likely not gonna straight up just box delta like naruto did. He mostly uses hax with a bunch of piercing attacks (sword, chidori, fuma shuriken etc) and he went for the lethal blow against jigen, after seeing the regen of her arms and legs he def going for the body or head

I don't really see him managing to pull all of that off, like cool he tags her once with a Chidori or a Fuma Shuriken, that still won't help him because Delta has superior physical stats and it literally took Naruto a Super Massive Rasengan to defeat Delta, not to mention that Sasuke cannot use larger scale Jutsu. His only wincon is BFR'ing Delta

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Sure but even kawaki reacted to it, I honestly don’t see her beams tagging him

Kawaki just built different

 

[Excellence616]

Sasuke smash

 

[TauanVictor]

Voting Sasuke

 

[Avengershows]

You need to add reasoning for why you're voting Sasuke

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Sasuke can still use the Susano'o, he just has to use one of the smaller versions so that he doesn't get the kids caught in the AoE.

 

[Avengershows]

Sasuke can still use the Susano'o, he just has to use one of the smaller versions so that he doesn't get the kids caught in the AoE.

Using a Susano'o makes him a much bigger target for Delta's laser beam eyes

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Using a Susano'o makes him a much bigger target for Delta's laser beam eyes

You mean the Laser Beams that would be less effective against his super durable ass Susano'o? I guess if he only used the Skeletal Susano'o it would be a problem but the humanoid one is just as fast as he normally is so he can still dodge, he can also still teleport with the Susano'o so even if that was an issue then he can avoid regardless.

 

[Avengershows]

You mean the Laser Beams that would be less effective against his super durable ass Susano'o? I guess if he only used the Skeletal Susano'o it would be a problem but the humanoid one is just as fast as he normally is so he can still dodge, he can also still teleport with the Susano'o so even if that was an issue then he can avoid regardless.

The Laser Beams negate durability, it's the entire point of them, also, even if he just uses the ribcage stage, it still makes him a bigger target and easier to hit.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The Laser Beams negate durability, it's the entire point of them, also, even if he just uses the ribcage stage, it still makes him a bigger target and easier to hit.

Then what's stopping him from just using the Bow on his Susano'o? The bolts from it were capable of blitzing people comparable to himself in speed as shown when he used it against Kakashi and Danzo.

 

[ssgengar]

I don't really see him managing to pull all of that off, like cool he tags her once with a Chidori or a Fuma Shuriken, that still won't help him because Delta has superior physical stats and it literally took Naruto a Super Massive Rasengan to defeat Delta,

His sword and fuma shuriken are different though because they won’t get absorbed, at least she had a counter to naruto’s rasengan before he started pouring a bunch of chakra into it. Plus he’s shown that he’s willing to go for more lethal damage when fighting

I can sort of see why you don’t see him pulling it off, I just think it’s a lot more likely than him getting dropped. Even if he is physically slower than naruto he makes up for it in perception

 

[Avengershows]

Then what's stopping him from just using the Bow on his Susano'o? The bolts from it were capable of blitzing people comparable to himself in speed as shown when he used it against Kakashi and Danzo.

Delta is faster than Sasuke. Also didn't he literally use them against Naruto in the Final Fight and Naruto could react to them? And even if they did hit Delta, he'd still need to do more damage.

His sword and fuma shuriken are different though because they won’t get absorbed, at least she had a counter to naruto’s rasengan before he started pouring a bunch of chakra into it. Plus he’s shown that he’s willing to go for more lethal damage when fighting

Yeah but would he be able to do enough damage fast enough? He'd have to trap her in a combo and deliver damage equivalent to that of a Super Massive Rasengan with his Sword and Fuma Shuriken to do anything

 

[Tatsumi504]

Kirin GG

 

[Avengershows]

Kirin GG

Kirin is a massive ass attack and Delta would be able to just absorb it, also, do you not read what the conditions of the fight are? Or are you saying that Sasuke would ******* fry Himawari

 

[Tatsumi504]

Kirin is a massive ass attack and Delta would be able to just absorb it, also, do you not read what the conditions of the fight are? Or are you saying that Sasuke would ******* fry Himawari

Kirin is natural lightning, delta isn't absorbing it, i didn't notice the conditions are the same as with delta vs naruto

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Delta is faster than Sasuke. Also didn't he literally use them against Naruto in the Final Fight and Naruto could react to them? And even if they did hit Delta, he'd still need to do more damage.

Delta's profile doesn't even say she's equal to Naruto, just that she reacted to him, while Sasuke's awarded the full equality rating. And yes Naruto reacted to them over a very long range with ultra enhanced reactions from SPSM. Delta will neither have as long a time to react nor boosted reaction speed. And Arrows are more effective in killing than blunt force attacks because it's more concentrated.

Yeah but would he be able to do enough damage fast enough? He'd have to trap her in a combo and deliver damage equivalent to that of a Super Massive Rasengan with his Sword and Fuma Shuriken to do anything

An Arrow might one shot her if it landed directly. He did consistently one shot Danzo with them after all, who was close to him physically.

 

[Tatsumi504]

I swear it be grating on my nerves each time I see "Delta is superior to Sasuke/Momoshiki".
Why could borushiki clap code

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I swear it be grating on my nerves each time I see "Delta is superior to Sasuke/Momoshiki".

she is superior to momoshiki, she X2 the AP of fused momo

 

[Tatsumi504]

she is superior to momoshiki, she X2 the AP of fused momo

Based on what? Momoshiki>Borushiki~code>delta.
Can't wait for the current scaling to blow up in everyone's faces

 

[Godernet]

Based on what? Momoshiki>Borushiki~code>delta.
Can't wait for the current scaling to blow up in everyone's faces

Based on 3T Rinnegan Sasuke struggling with Kinshiki who is Weaker than Base Momo. Fused Momo is Base Momo + Kin. And SOSP KCM Naruto and EMS Rinnegan Sasuke could beat tf out of Fused Momo while they were both weakened. Delta fought a Naruto that himself claimed was at full power with the exception of his big jutsu since Kids were around.

Also that same Weakened Naruto gave some chakra to Boruto and he obliterated Momo with a rasengan.

Full power Naruto had to keep flooding a rasengan with chakra to eventually overwhelm Delta.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Full power Naruto had to keep flooding a rasengan with chakra to eventually overwhelm Delta.

1.Cause she was frigging absorbing it
2.Naruto wanted to subdue not obliterate her
3.No absroption shenanigans and a normal odama rasengan would obliterate her torso.

Y'all need to realize that this scaling is flawed as hell. I'm not exactly sure how we treat stats in relation to chakra but Naruto being down to 50% chakra≠ 50% Naruto after all, they don't discharge all their chakra with a single hit.

Since when sid dojutsu give stat amps? The only things that's affected in relation to which eyes sasuke is using are Info analysis, analytical prediction, enhanced senses & extrasensory perception.

 

[Avengershows]

Delta's profile doesn't even say she's equal to Naruto, just that she reacted to him, while Sasuke's awarded the full equality rating. And yes Naruto reacted to them over a very long range with ultra enhanced reactions from SPSM. Delta will neither have as long a time to react nor boosted reaction speed. And Arrows are more effective in killing than blunt force attacks because it's more concentrated.

Are Naruto and Sasuke equal? Then whatever, discard that point.
Also, please stop being passive aggressive, it's a random debate about fictional characters. Anyways,
Even then, I highly doubt it'd blitz her lmao. The only reason it tagged Danzo is because Sasuke was aiming for where Danzo would land, and Danzo did a mistake and tried to do a Jutsu when he landed but switched his mind mid way because he landed too late. The other time it hit him is when Danzo was standing still, and the time after that was when Danzo was literally running straight towards Sasuke like an idiot because he was using Izanagi. The only thing that's note-worthy in that fight is Danzo saying they're hard to dodge, but no surprise there Danzo was fighting like an idiot. Also the Rasengan isn't pure blunt force, it's literally giant ball that's rotating in a bunch of different directions, if you get hit by it it literally twists and rips apart your body.

An Arrow might one shot her if it landed directly. He did consistently one shot Danzo with them after all, who was close to him physically.

You're ignoring the fact that using that Jutsu would really not be viable in this situation due to the conditions of the fight.

 

[Godernet]

Y'all need to realize that this scaling is flawed as hell. I'm not exactly sure how we treat stats in relation to chakra but Naruto being down to 50% chakra≠ 50% Naruto after all, they don't discharge all their chakra with a single hit.

Disregarding the 50% scaling. Delta outperformed Momoshiki against a not weakened Naruto in hand-to-hand.

also, Momo isn’t just taking chakra, IIRC when he did this to Bee it was supposed to kill him afterward if not for the Tentacle clone.

Meaning he is absorbing the physical and mental energies needed to mold chakra as well.

Doing this would make Naruto weaker.

also, this isn’t even to mention the chakra pills and the science guy giving Momo the power to stay in the fight.

Since when sid dojutsu give stat amps? The only things that's affected in relation to which eyes sasuke is using are Info analysis, analytical prediction, enhanced senses & extrasensory perception.

Dojutsu sends a more powerful chakra to the brain and has been shown to give stat amps an example is Madara getting an extra rinnegan made him go from being fodderized by Naruto and Sasuke to an equal to both of them.

 

[Godernet]

, they don't discharge all their chakra with a single hit.

Most Jutsu don't discharge all of their chakra in one hit either.

And we've seen characters on this lvl(mostly Naruto) swat away Jutsu from these Otsutsuki lvl characters with physical attacks.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the only reason why we treat sasuke as an equal to naruto is because of the anime. going by his feats in the manga a strong case can be made that he isnt naruto equal given how poor his performance against fused momoshiki is in the manga.

 

[Godernet]

the only reason why we treat sasuke as an equal to naruto is because of the anime. going by his feats in the manga a strong case can be made that he isnt naruto equal given how poor his performance against fused momoshiki is in the manga.

aren't there also Naruto = Sasuke statements from some databook source for Boruto? Or is that just the anime?

 

[Avengershows]

the only reason why we treat sasuke as an equal to naruto is because of the anime. going by his feats in the manga a strong case can be made that he isnt naruto equal given how poor his performance against fused momoshiki is in the manga.

Even in the anime, Sasuke gets swatted by Momo more times than Naruto

 

[Godernet]

The anime definitely makes them look relative with Naruto edging out in physicals and skill but Sasuke bridges the gap a bit with Battle IQ and hax.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

aren't there also Naruto = Sasuke statements from some databook source for Boruto? Or is that just the anime?

novel

 

[Godernet]

novel

Ah gotcha

 

[Tatsumi504]

Even in the anime, Sasuke gets swatted by Momo more times than Naruto

Think you got that the other way round. Sasuke only got swatted once

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Based on 3T Rinnegan Sasuke struggling with Kinshiki who is Weaker than Base Momo. Fused Momo is Base Momo + Kin. And SOSP KCM Naruto and EMS Rinnegan Sasuke could beat tf out of Fused Momo while they were both weakened. Delta fought a Naruto that himself claimed was at full power with the exception of his big jutsu since Kids were around.

Also that same Weakened Naruto gave some chakra to Boruto and he obliterated Momo with a rasengan.

Full power Naruto had to keep flooding a rasengan with chakra to eventually overwhelm Delta.

Delta would slam Fused Momoshiki in taijutsu, but his ninjutsu is his main strength, and I'm not sure she could absorb that considering the scale of it and the fact that it's made of stuff from the Earth.

Are Naruto and Sasuke equal? Then whatever, discard that point.
Also, please stop being passive aggressive, it's a random debate about fictional characters. Anyways,

Idt posting a meme to express disagreement is passive aggressive but alright.

Even then, I highly doubt it'd blitz her lmao. The only reason it tagged Danzo is because Sasuke was aiming for where Danzo would land, and Danzo did a mistake and tried to do a Jutsu when he landed but switched his mind mid way because he landed too late. The other time it hit him is when Danzo was standing still, and the time after that was when Danzo was literally running straight towards Sasuke like an idiot because he was using Izanagi. The only thing that's note-worthy in that fight is Danzo saying they're hard to dodge, but no surprise there Danzo was fighting like an idiot. Also the Rasengan isn't pure blunt force, it's literally giant ball that's rotating in a bunch of different directions, if you get hit by it it literally twists and rips apart your body.

He'd already landed when the arrow was shot. And even if I steelman your argument, by the time he decided it couldn't be helped, the meter was still a little ways away, and he felt he had to use a jutsu rather than try dodging.

Danzo was standing still because he couldn't dodge it and had to use Izanagi.

Yes Danzo was running straight at Sasuke, but if he could've, he would've dodged to the side when the arrow was shot then continued running instead of wasting a life. He only wasted that life so he could use the distance gained, and he could've achieved the same by dodging the arrow, so the fact that he didn't dodge tells us he probably couldn't.

Danzo being an "idiot" isn't a counter to him admitting the arrow is difficult to react to.

Sure it's not pure blunt force. Still not as good in dealing a fatal wound as an arrow.

You're ignoring the fact that using that Jutsu would really not be viable in this situation due to the conditions of the fight.

Why? The Humanoid Susanoo doesn't take that much space.

 

[Frey6678]

Sasuke one shot

 

[Avengershows]

Idt posting a meme to express disagreement is passive aggressive but alright.

No, however the contents of said meme come off as inflammatory.

He'd already landed when the arrow was shot.

I guess it's just different in the anime and manga then. I never read the manga version of the fight so

Sure it's not pure blunt force. Still not as good in dealing a fatal wound as an arrow.

The thing is, the Super Massive Rasengan and the Susano'o Arrow aren't remotely comparable in terms of power, like, whatsoever.

Why? The Humanoid Susanoo doesn't take that much space.

It isn't overly huge, however there's still a chance he might hit Boruto/Kawaki/Himawari depending on if he misjudges Delta and misses.

Naruto reacted to them over a very long range with ultra enhanced reactions from SPSM

Also in regards to this, the distance was like, between 100 and 200 meters, and Naruto was still able to react despite just landing. I really don't see Sasuke shooting the arrow at point blank range at Delta, because he literally never did that.
He shot at Danzo from what appears to be 20~40 meters.
I very highly doubt that a difference of 50-70 meters is enough to speedblitz Delta, who was comparable to Naruto and could land punches on him multiple times.

 

[Arkenis]

Sasuke Fra

 

[Nierre]

With the scenario being the kids are around, Sasuke's best bet if all else fails is BFR.