First of all, that was pre revisions, Alucard has gotten upgrades since then and is about to get Low-Godly. But still even with his Low-High regeneration would be more than enough to recover from all of Mercer's hax.
Fortunately Alucard has several ways to negate durability, methods that'll bypass his regeneration such as Absorbtion and Mind hax. Mercer has more hax, yes but that's not an advantage considering 90% of Alex's hax won't work on Alucard due to his regeneration, proxies and Mercer won't be able to absorb Alucard as he'd be driven mad by the amount of souls and minds that Alucard has at his disposal, meanwhile Alucard can absorb Mercer just fine.
That's only for Biological regeneration, Alucard's is not Biological in nature and stems directly from the mind and soul of his victims.
Alucard either mind ***** with layered Mind Manipulation, Passive fear hax, better absorption while making most of Mercer's kit useless.
No, all of what you said is wrong lol.
ok shoot then what is wrong in the things I just said?
Mercer cannot negate soul based regeneration, that's the point. Alucard's isn't Biological, it's soul based regeneration.
Useless due to regeneration and ways to negate Mercer's durability. Mercer cannot absorb Alucard, but Alucard can absorb Alex.
well then we should wait and see if that revision thread gets accepted
alucards absorption is reliant on souls we never see him absorb a full body without using the Baskerville hound and even then luke somehow managed to survive it but honestly I chuck it up to plot contrivance, while mercer is a souless being so that soul absorption ain't really doing much
again the absorption ain't doing squat to a souless being and Baskerville is liable to get cut in half by mercer much like our good old butler walter did with basic ass steel wires, mind control also wouldn't do much since one alucard doesn't even use it in character and two mercer has resisted mind control from greene and the hive mind which controls hunderds of thousands if not millions of people so he resisted far greater mind control than anythign alucard has demonstrated. Ah yes because absorbing a guy with 120 thousand souls as a souless being who wouldn't be effected by it to begin with is somehow worse than tapping into a hivemind of ravenous monsters in constant pain which number in the multiple hundred thousand. Again mercer does not have a soul and alucards basic vampire absorption which relies on him drinking blood is not going to do much at all since he can't consume mercers souls since he ain't got one.
yeah that is limited by the amount of times it gets used kill the guy 120,000 times and his regen is down to a basic vampire one of high-mid which will get him decimated by mercer after a massively long battle of mercer smashing his body into a fine pulp over and over and this is under the assumption that the proposed low godly regen thread gets accepted and not the current profiles
Mate hive mind in prototype that is controled by greene is composed of hundreds of thousands of individuals alucards soul count in the first profile is 120 thousand mercer has expirenced a greater number of minds before and hell he was in control of a similar amount if not a greater amount the the shit greene was doing in prototype 2 and that didn't slow him down for shit
yeah and mercer doesn't have a soul which also means that alucards absorption is useless as it rely's on consuming a soul that isn't even there
read above
Its already accepted.
No it isn't but that's a nice headcanon. Alucard's absorption is reliant on the mind, body, soul and essence. Baskerville is only used to gain the powers and abilities of the people he consumes, that's a different form of absorption. The point being that for Mercer to effect Alucard he needs to also absorb his soul.
The Absorbtion is still gonna work, what you said is inherent wrong and dishonest.
The number is 3 Million first of all, as this is Alucard's strongest 9-A key meaning after he absorbs all the blood in London.
Read above.
The point is that Alucard can still absorb Mercer, Mercer can't absorb Alucard.
ok
and we see him absorb the whole body when exactly? we know that he takes the memories from tubalcain as the guy is burning away into a crisp after the millennium starts burning him away into ashes, we see him start eating away at the body of Rip van winkle but we do not see her get fully consumed as alucard starts sucking away we cut to the major and the doctor talking. The only real time we see alucard fully absorb someones body is with luke valintine where he uses the Baskerville hound which again is likely going to get torn to shreds by mercer as again mercer has a substantial AP advantage
already explained above
aight bit of in issue the population of new york city is 8.5 million people prototype 2 mercer was controling the hivemind of at least half that populations worth so it's 4,25 mill vs 3 mill
read above
ay
no he can't as explained above
we never see him absorb anyone through a pure simple touch (we see mercer do that in the comics though) he usually needs to bite a person
aight than I suppose we continue tomorrow since it rather late
We'll finish this bloody boute between edge lords tomorrow then.
we will my fellow nerd
well it wouldn't remove a possiblity of victory for mercer it would just mean that he would have to slog through 120 thousand lives that alucard has or force alucard into level 0 either way it would more than likely lead to an incon result
I mean, if it's true that Alucard has layered Mind Manipulation, then Mercer could get screwed against that before he gets the chance to whittle down Alucard's lives - with the more recent revisions that changes Mind Manipulation's potency being evaluated by layers instead of numbers like previously, Mercer's Resistance to Mind Manipulation... It doesn't really have much potency under these new conditions. ^^;
Depends if Alucard has feats of affecting non-human creatures with his Hypnosis or Mind Manipulation, such as animals - or especially being able to affect beings that are neither living or dead, which Mercer is canonically stated and portrayed to be in the [PROTOTYPE]-verse. Considering Mercer's entire body is comprised of viruses, we can't exactly say that Mercer would biologically operate like multicellular organisms do.
That still does not cover other non-human creatures such as animals though, considering Vampires are pretty much converted humans (converted to supernatural creatures, but are otherwise still originally human with appearances that outwardly resembles humans).
You can argue how in-character for Alucard using his Mind hax would be against LordGinSama.
It's implied that he can also use it against the likes of the Were-Kin since only Vampires have a resistance towards Mind hax via one's Third Eye. Them being animals wouldn't change anything since Alucard directly manipulates the consciousness.
Its on his profile description in his powers and abilities.
I mean, did it explicitly imply that the Mind hax works against them while they’re in wolf form? The Captain has a human form himself even if he could transform to his large wolf form, and I haven’t found any scans that describes if it works on them beyond their human-esque form.
If you provide me the explicit scans of Alucard’s Shadows in its true form being intangible and/or metaphysical, along with instances of Alucard’s shadows being physically interacted with not actually the shadows being intangible (and that it’s true state can’t be interacted with), then it would provide greater merit to his shadow’s properties that would make me believe it being actually intangible more.
Uh no, it's stated and shown that Alucard absorbs their entire existence. Hence why he's able to summon his familiars like Dandy-Man and Rip, along with the bodies of the people who've been absorbed by Alucard.
As DeathNoodles said, we work by layers now. Alucard's mind hax is around 2 layers of mind hax Potency, scaling above Zorin Blitz who can effect and negate the mental resistances of Sara's Victoria's pre True Vampire.
Read above, news flash your wrong.
Again wrong, 8.5 Mil is for NYC's population as of 2021. Prototype 2 was released in 2012, where the population of NYC so the actual population would be 4,168,348.5 Mil. Also can you provide scans of that? Because i do doubt Mercer effect half the population of New York City.
Read above.
Yes he absolutely can. Mercer has no defense against getting absorbed, ffs Heller literally used Absorbtion as a means to defeat Mercer. And unlike Mercer, Alucard has a trump card that being that Mercer would need to absorb Alucard's souls, which he cannot do due to Mercer's absorption type only being Biological.
False. In a CRT I’m working on (but have not yet released), Mercer does in fact have resistance to Absorption. He doesn’t have it in his profile now, but there’s a decent chance he’ll have it later on. Even Heller using Absorption against Mercer has a good explanation for why such occurred, and it does not prove that Mercer lacks Resistance to Absorption in any way - there are mechanics to the Blacklight characters’ resisting Absorption and succumbing to it that you’ll see on their profiles later.
Fair point. And thank you for the wishing of luck.
Fair enough. If you can successfully provide me all the explicit scans of Alucard being able to absorb a target’s entire existence such as their body, mind and soul, to the point that even their physical body is wiped out of existence or similar (on top of the other explicit scans I’ve asked for about Alucard’s other capabilities) soon, then it could clear off any possible doubts I have about the capabilities of Alucard’s Absorption and his other abilities.
yeah expect one tiny little fact you are cherry picking the information provided by the major as he never states that their body becomes one with him what he says is their lives and minds do and latter on in that same scan you provided he outright states that the process is something he would not enjoy as he says "but it is something that I would not enjoy, I'm not joking, its true what's mine is mine, my soul and my blood" it never even implies in that scan that he consumes their bodies just their blood and souls, as for the familiars they are formed from the same shadow substance as alucard because absorption is not a good argument considering alucard only took a single good bite out of Tubalcain before the major set the card boy on fire and turned him into dust so alucard all of a sudden having his body even though he was turned to ash before alucard could absorb it can only be explained through the shadow matter that alucard consistently uses.
again those bodies where made out of shadow matter because he didn't consume the body of tublecain because it was turned to dust by our lovely fat German boy so that point is moot.
ah so you are trying to apply layers to Seras resisting zorin even though prior to her true vampire state she never ones demonstrated resistance to mind manipulation? that is disingenuous because one little fact to get layers you need to be able to mind manip a person who can resist base mind manip which seras never demonstrated the basic mind manip resistance in the series prior to zorin as it was the whole point of that fight for seras was to overcome her mortality and open her third eye
his body would not be immune mercer could consume it no problem its the fact that low-godly is now added to his regen which makes absorption pointless other than a quicker regenaration
well same to you bud
I mean yeah flubbed it there but as for the scan I mean do you need it? the whole of Manhattan was nothing but shambling corpses in 2 and mercer was at the tippity top of that hivemind although I suppose it would be more like 2 mill people at the time(assumed from the fact that half of manhattan is turned to a smoldering pile).
and round two electric boogaloo
except mercer can only be absorbed by heller through a far supirior method of biological absorption than what alucard has, alucard needs to bite down on mercer to suck his blood which due to mind manip resistance, lack of a soul and massive biological resistance to absorption on a molecular level would be pointless or use the Baskerville if he plans to absorb the body whole in one bite which would result in the Baskerville being turned into sashimi by mercer much like how it happened with Walter.
again he can not absorb mercer the examples you provided by the major of "existance absorbtion" are not exitance absorbtion but soul and mind absorbtion through blood sucking which again wouldn't do jack shit to mercer that piled on the fact that mercer is 12 ******* times stronger than alucard means that alucard can't bite him to attempt the absorption he also can't use the baskarvil since the result of trying it on mercer would be the hound being evisirated in a single blow.
again he cannot absorb mercer the examples you provided by the major of "existence absorption" are not exitance absorption but soul and mind absorbtion through blood sucking which again wouldn't do jack shit to mercer that piled on the fact that mercer is 12 ******* times stronger than alucard means that alucard can't bite him to attempt the absorption he also can't use the Baskerville since the result of trying it on mercer would be the hound being eviscerated in a single blow
exuse me but we are using the pre updated alucard profile right now isnt it a tad hypocritical of you to use this argument
mind and soul are stated body is not
