Lupin III Discussion Thread (2)

[Fireld]

Nah, i haven't started yet. How was the 1st episode?

 

[Stefano4444]

Spoiler: Episode 1

I just finish the first episode, the series looks pretty promising and its was pretty funny to see Lupin and Jigen already beat the shit out of infamous criminals as mere kids.

Feats wise there its nothing, aside for Lupin already be a quite competent fighter as a child to be point that it can beat adults, which it most likely thanks to the fact that he was been trained by his familty since his birth to become a master thief like his grandfather, under the guidance of Tomoe who he consider his own mother figure (which was stated in Part 6, and its probably was worth enough to mention in his profile).

Same with Jigen who already showcase excellent marksmanship skills and that he has experience the battlefield since his father its also a mercenary who apparently brought his child to work.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

How would monkey punch think of our profiles?

 

[Fireld]

Absolutely no clue on that, sorry.

Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Fireld]

Another with those smexy genderbends I was thirsting curious about.

How could do this NIWDE!? You left out Goemon...

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Bee awhile, but I'm back for now.

How could do this NIWDE!? You left out Goemon...

You're right! How foolish of me!
But I remember that I didn't... At least when my other account was game ended. Her back doesn't hurt when you keep it all xen and stuff.

Also I have not seen it yet as I am still busy as of late, but I will leave you all with this, it's happening guys:

Though with all the statistics in place, Lupin could still win this. Considering he stalemated a casual comet slicing Samurai (one that did it with their eyes closed too), Spidermonkey'd through some Danmaku (some of which were in places one wouldn't react to normally), and the inventory to have Invulnerability + teleporting Dead Ringers to counter.

The only things I see implicating Lupin, is Za Warudo and BFR though. But then again, Lupin has the Inventory/magic and superior Toon Force shenanigans to bypass this (by Toon Force is that he can also potentially manipulate plot, like that time a Fan gave him an idea and MADE IT INTO AN EPISODE. Like that's some Chowder Power... But then again like Fireld said they tend not to use that trippy approach apparently).

Thoughts?

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I also wonder: Has anyone done AI Generated stuff of The Lupawn Crew?
Like these as an example:


And this.
As for the last one: Why does Stan Smith from the American Guy Art style look like the ultimate ******* Himbo bruh??!! I would have thought that Stan while not ugly, would be a bit more humorous in context, due to having the meanest Chin next to the Crimson Chin!! And god I wish I was THAT Handsome! (If I really were the Crimson Grasshopper though, it would have been a sitch to shapeshift into + gain their abilities regardless how monstrous their resistance!! XD)

Anyways, if Lupin were at least realistically AI Generated:
• Lupin himself is an interesting case. He would have that suave James Bond look, with his usual red jacket attires of course, with a partial mix of a slightly symmetrical David Tennant but also a goofy Jim Carrey structure line... Maybe mostly more of a tad symmetrical Jimbo Carry, but it's indeed a hard task to pull off well. An example would be this masterpiece of art, however more realistic. Though he is wearing a Mask under his REAL FACE anyways, it would be very awesome seeing the AI Generate that scene where partially takes his mask off too.
• Jigen would simply look like Keanu Reeves that did a fusion with a more youthful looking Abraham Lincoln.
• Goemon would mysteriously look like a more jacked Markiplier, but with the Gi on. It would further cement his own Multilocation testaments of course.
• Fujiko is the most curious case as to what she'd look like, what is the most ideal women that could match her Goddess Status?
• Zenigata: Straight up an aged out of wine Giga Chad in his own right. Given he too has that mean chin going on, so he will be comparable to Giga Stan! XD

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Bee awhile, but I'm back for now.

You're right! How foolish of me!
But I remember that I didn't... At least when my other account was game ended. Her back doesn't hurt when you keep it all xen and stuff.

Also I have not seen it yet as I am still busy as of late, but I will leave you all with this, it's happening guys:

Though with all the statistics in place, Lupin could still win this. Considering he stalemated a casual comet slicing Samurai (one that did it with their eyes closed too), Spidermonkey'd through some Danmaku (some of which were in places one wouldn't react to normally), and the inventory to have Invulnerability + teleporting Dead Ringers to counter.

The only things I see implicating Lupin, is Za Warudo and BFR though. But then again, Lupin has the Inventory/magic and superior Toon Force shenanigans to bypass this (by Toon Force is that he can also potentially manipulate plot, like that time a Fan gave him an idea and MADE IT INTO AN EPISODE. Like that's some Chowder Power... But then again like Fireld said they tend not to use that trippy approach apparently).

Thoughts?

Revising this again: I wonder how the "getting disintegrated by Pycal only to come back just fine" ability works again? From the clips shown he can not only do that, but also teleport to a far away location to potentially use another attempt, does this ability have a limit? Can he also do this at an unconscious state too? Idk lads, but because of it, Lupin's chances don't look too great from the way I see it currently. Due to the furry Dio time hacks are really going to kill him with just the lack of resistances (That we know of) for such (Sly would just Game-end the now frozen Lupin from behind. Pause).

While Lupin obviously has potential Relativistic-FTL feats, I've played my fair share of the Sly trilogy with the speed feats that I remember Sly having (That I also questioned too, far back in the past when revising some Classic PS2 Games, Sly being one of them. Tonygameman was there in the Playstation Discussion Thread too if he can recall) was Supersonic+-Massively Hypersonic (dodging bullets, probably outrun explosions, to lightning) and the most important one is where Sly can ride laser beams, therefore I would also think that Sly is Relativistic-FTL? But I was told that it fells on NPI only... What do you all reckon?

I feel that Lupin could be stronger if we only knew the value of Goemon at the very least slicing clouds, but even then there were more feats then that. LS should be definitively higher with Zeni pulling trains with his back.
But then again - Lupin has no Time Hax/Resistances on him, if we took the whole Chowder Plot Manipulation Feat seriously then I can see Lupin pulling some Bugs Bunny move of sorts... And I wonder if Manga Lupin would be included? I may be doubtful considering that they may just be two different entities (But even then the Manga feats are the most alien for me currently).

If everything isn't what it is, I think Lupin has no chance too sadly, at least not the way he is right now.

 

[Stefano4444]

Spoiler: Episode 5

Finally an actual good durability feat, from Gaucho the Wolf Hunter.

The guy survived getting indirectly hit by a battleship's main gun, which was powerful enough to blow up the battleship's main headquarters along with crack the ship in half.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Okay. So I managed to catch up with half of the vid at the time so since I'm busy, I will keep it brief.

Spoiler: Spoilers

Sly of course, apparently wins the pole at the end, albeit even they were astonished that it was VERY CLOSE. They mentioned barely everything for both, they have ways to incapacitate each other, etc... However there were very crucial things they forgot as far as I know though: The lack of the Dead Ringer + Teleporting to the point he can do such from far away where he cannot be easily seen, thus figure out a different approach. They mentioned Toonforce, probably don't know that Lupin can potentially pull a Bugs Bunny move as stated. It's not just the Dead Ringers we know though, in return to Babylon - Lupin was severely taken off guard from Zenigata, he gets shot only to appear in copies, it turns out Lupin can still fake his death in more ways then one...

Thoughts? I feel that they left some stuff out regarding Lupin.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Spoiler: Episode 5

Finally an actual good durability feat, from Gaucho the Wolf Hunter.

The guy survived getting indirectly hit by a battleship's main gun, which was powerful enough to blow up the battleship's main headquarters along with crack the ship in half.

Cool... If only we knew the value though.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I'm also awaiting a response from Fierld and see what he thinks of all of this. One bigger feat I remember being mentioned was in the PS2 Sorcerer's King game. It had Lupin tanking not only the collapsing of an entire temple, but also some following implosion that expanded past some large acres or something like that...

But it's from a game, I don't know if we can consider it. I have the game... But my Laptop is broken. :/

 

[Stefano4444]

But it's from a game, I don't know if we can consider it. I have the game... But my Laptop is broken. :/

I think would be better if we stick with the Anime/OVAs/Movies for the most part, at least with them we have somewhat of a proof that they can be canon, i can't say the same with Games.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I think would be better if we stick with the Anime/OVAs/Movies for the most part, at least with them we have somewhat of a proof that they can be canon, i can't say the same with Games.

Okay. The Manga is also a different beast entierly too I guess?

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

It's happening guys:

Also the Live Stream thankfully, has been brought back up to see what you guys think of it, in your sparest of time of course.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Okay so for others like Fireld to see my thoughts regarding this, here's what I think:

Spoiler: Thoughts.

So... I REALLY want to say Lupin too (The voting pole came VERY CLOSE, even they were surprised)... BUT you have to admit, here is the most crucial part: How Lupin can counter the Furry counterpart's Za Warudo/Time Manipulation that will then probably lead to Lupin's silent obliteration in said frozen state, is controversial/debatable currently, as YES Lupin has no resistances regarding such as of yet. It's not just Sly slowing or speeding up, but the Raccoon now has the ability to not be effected by slowed down stuff anymore via the Thievery Attire from the 4th Sly game.
Update on the time predicament: Apparently Sly stopping time works AROUND THE WORLD (Za Warudo in the literal sense) so I know Lupin's chances of budging out of this is very darn heavy...

HOWEVER, ALSO: Lupin still has that unpredictable aura to him at all costs, he may still have some counters against Sly. Such as being able to use his own stealthy Dead Ringers (faking death) + Teleporting with said dead ringer as shown in "The Return Of The Magician": Lupin has Teleporting that can also be out of the bounds of an opponents vicinty and thus, he can Columbo a different approach to defeat Sly, at least from afar...
That is IF Lupin can do it an unaware frozen like that. It has it's concerning uncertainties.
Though EVEN THEN it isn't just these tricks he's used when Pycal returned though - In the Babylon Film, Lupin was severely taken off guard from Zenigata arriving and EVEN THEN confidently shot himself, appearing in copies, only to STILL be elsewhere... So he has ways to still fake death even more, thus find a way to toy with the opponent from the outside or incapacitate with long ranged inventory or other unpredictable traps which I will get to later.
Sly's Za Warudo abilities has a catch apparently, if I recall - It doesn't last forever, and it's only long enough for Sly to make his move (His profile also states this: His Stun/Time technique only affects the opponents body. For example if his opponent shot a bullet and Sly used Stun, the opponent will be frozen in time, but the bullet that was fired will be unaffected). So once the jig is up OR if Sly thinks he's killed Lupin, in reality Lupin can still be from somewhere else via his own abilities, Lupin then uses some of his usual executions if he can.

Outside help isn't allowed here as this is a fight bewteen Lupin and Sly right? Yet I feel like they will have a Solid Snake moment where they contact each other. But thankfully, Lupin has some Metal Gear Codec counters that I will get to later.

As for disguising, costuming for Lupin is good yeah, but to the extent that it can outwit NANOMACHINES... Raccoon Bois disguises are good too, but Mönke Man isn't so easily fooled anyways let alone from a cardboard cutout as he can very easily detect lies, plus the fact he can OUTWIT NANOMACHINES (Lupin has grown wiser over the years, so the whole "Lupin falls for women" is lesser then a weakness now when comes down to it) So Sly seeing past Lupin's disguising/getting fooled by Sly this easily is unlikely.

The music box to put people to sleep shouldn't work on Lupin considering he has resisted these prior and considered worthy from Dreamy Powered DaVinci because of it (There's more resistances then that aside the lack thereof, but again it's to get the ball rolling that was at least mentioned here). The fact Lupin can consistently outwit Zenigata alone, who in Part 4 episode "With a gun in my hand (Currently on YT. English dub.)" can make an exact precise Super-Columbo deduction of what happened is nothing to scoff at.

There's also the fact Lupin may also recieve prior info scanning knowledge of Sly via the monocle, but then we get to the fact Sly can do this too/hack as well therefore challenging barriers for such... So, which one is more effective? Lupin on the other hand, apparently is so good in decoding though if I recall, his Grandfather despite being from the 1800's knew how to create a family code that can break ANY coding regardless? Bare in mind this was before any advanced technology was present, so that's really interesting, not only can Lupin replicate after seeing it once (Power Mimicry?), but also advanced enough to understand/defy Nanomachines + gotten even better overtime.

They still do have hacks/inventory to counter each other (Sly has at least three horseshoes that basically 'could revive him' albeit there could still be a way to counter this such as incapacitation anyways. Thanks to Fireld, Lupin also has a degree of luck, but I bet they wouldn't mention that) though Lupin has inconspicuous looking Amnesia Bubbles that keeps people paralyzed without a memory of what happened for the right time to make his own move (finish off even... Sounds familiar?) + a loud high frequency gadget that stuns people too right? Same with energy manipulation of 1'000'000 absorptions so he may still sap Sly's Sentry Technology.
Now Lupin's most useful wildcard is having the Starman Invulnerbility via the pycal formula, which lasts for several days, but it may be more then enough to counter Slys blows of course, since Lupin is impenetrable here as a result - Lupin may be safe from that strike from behind then, which needs to be done to perform the silent obliteration (Say's so on Sly's profile).
But there's like a whole bunch of other inventory for the past 50+ years so you can all bring up just in case...
Now, Its overkill, but at one point Lupin got his hand on a black hole as a mere example of what he achieved... But here's the most impressive part is that according to one of the commenters: Lupin survived being close to said Black Hole too??

In terms of time travel, that wasn't the only one of course as in "Is Lupin still burning?" He still utilizes Time Traveling in case the other uses such too.

Lupin has insane Enhanced Senses such as in hearing (Yes he has this, even before Nyx. Hearing the ticking of a bomb from far away when others couldn't, senses to counter with magnets, etc.) smelling, and surprisingly decent Extrasensory abilities like being able to sense bloodlusted intentions, sensing Fujiko hiding many times, also senses Ghosts many times too (to the extent he raced Escobar despite being long dead, he was one of the first to realize this), knows where well hidden people are to sensing complex traps when it's not very obvious, via nothing but a frying pan he nonchalantly managed to deflect/destroy vehicles despite not directly looking at it, knew where Fujiko was going to shot from far away before it happens + the fact he can disrepair someone BLIND (Said two feats were in the "Women called Fujiko Mine").
So via this - Lupin cannot not only spoil Sly's intial approach to stealth, but he may also sense the traps Sly has in store too? If Lupin has this then he'll quickly try to dispatch Sly if he can, or maybe go with the Pycal formula to even his odds a lot more.

Both have defeated ancient enemies... Albeit Mamo is actually psychic and at Lupin's core couldn't be analyzed to the extent that both were God's because of it (This resistance is actually VERY GOOD, even more considering who Mamo is XD).

Lupin's Toonforce is also mentioned, albeit I noticed that it can be to a ludicrous extent, since he has created new episodes in the lore which while fan suggested, went with it anyways thus he has control over the script, this is like a Chowder 4th wall breaking move... So Plot Manipulation shenanigans too I guess, once Toonforce is taken into account then plot tinkering shenanigans could be an eventual solid win since Sly has no way to counter that too.
Despite all of this, I am uncertain if DB will fully acknowledge such, I WISH THEY KNEW because albeit an outlandish way to win (There's been weirder endings though so **** it) - Stuff like the eventual 4th wall plot hax, then there's a good chance Lupin would fully win via that.

Now who can also make a move faster? Both have apparent laser feats, but Lupin is debatably faster considering that in "Lupin The First" Lupin managed to Spidermonkey through a touhou gauntlet of them, I say Touhou Gauntlet for a reason, as those lasers came in places EVERYWHERE where one wouldn't be able to dodge normally and got past the trial, that one may argue that Lupin has some Precognition because of this...
Yet they only brought Mamo Lasers up, when in reality Lupin has dodged many more lasers in the main canon then that. Caligostro alone has that, like Jigen moved from lasers while he was submerged in water + Lupin literally moved Clarise from one of them... Why this is important is that these lasers are shown to be INSTANT (Having such appeared in the more tame Caligostro should tell us something very great come to think of it: LUPIN IS THAT FAST).

Sly can time hax, but Lupin could have ways to get out of that, aside the potential Plot hax. Sly's time hax may still have a catch with it not lasting very long, although he now has the thief costume. Albeit if some of these abilities works, then Slys guard is down, Lupin would be far from being easily spotted by now and go for an elimination from afar.

Overall as I said this isn't everything, I wished that they actually went ham on the research as there's 50+ years worth of content, albeit Sly's Raccoonus Stand Ability is REALLY going to make this truly tricky to have a verdict on, but Lupin ALSO has outlandish traits to him after all: it's not as wise to leave Sly with his own outlandish abilities if they sealed the deal with Toonforce, if they truly examine it through ALL POSSIBILITIES.

Again you can mention any others that I forgot, it's as long as it is. I played the Sly Games up to 3, so at first back in the day I would have gone with Suave Raccon Boi... But Suave Mönke Man is just as awesome so I couldn't let him down that easily. Though if by any chance that these may fail, it's a bummer seeing Lupin eventually get "1 Raccon, 1 Caned Human" from a Furry... But Lupin is full of surprises, hell he surprised me, so who knows what else we haven't seen.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

It grinds my gears that i & my partner haven't finished researching him. Yeah, he's rather creating a completly new body rather than regenerating from his existing remains. Bugs even called this trick basic. MFTL, sure. Immeasurable, meh: There's Bugs digging tunnels that lead to other time periods, but i would count that more as space-time hax rather than pure speed. There's Stupor Duck going back to the stone age by flying several times around the Earth parodying Superman. Thing is, this more like some wierd time reversal ability than time travel.

Very good stuff. I feel for you, though burn out is a thing and that sadly might be happening with my current alter ego (So much Op-ness, yet too much info became quite overwhelming. But I am still trying to keep track as much as I can).
About the Immeasurable thing. I say this now, as the Looney Tunes should have gotten there too at some point... Which thankfully there is evidence of it: Here's them EFFECTING MR. MXZLPLTK, Taz even wanted to EAT HIM. But overall: Mxzy ironically enough couldn't handle the Looney Tunes Style, so he bailed outta there as fast as he can! (Varying in degrees yes, but still nothing to scoff at, considering what Mxzy is consistently originated out of alone and even then, the dude actually felt overwhelmed).

Demoman was truly bombastic. Scout promotes their concerts(he would make a good hype man). The Engieer is behind the special effects. Sniper & Spy aren't there cause they're hidden bodyguards.

That makes more sense now nvm. Pauling is in the background recording I guess, chilling for once too.

 

[Tonygameman]

Those Lupin/Scooby-Doo fan mock-ups on Twitter really said something.

 

[Fireld]

• Zenigata: Straight up an aged out of wine Giga Chad in his own right. Given he too has that mean chin going on, so he will be comparable to Giga Stan! XD

I'm also awaiting a response from Fierld and see what he thinks of all of this.

This is gonna take awhile, sorry

I have the game... But my Laptop is broken. :/

Damn

I think would be better if we stick with the Anime/OVAs/Movies for the most part, at least with them we have somewhat of a proof that they can be canon, i can't say the same with Games.

Peccato. Stuff like Mankatsu or the Samba MV wouldn't count either, right? They act more like their manga versions there.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

"[In a rainy setting alone, a conversation bewteen the greatest thief and Inspector took place that day] You're feeling hopelessness? The Great Lupawn lll wouldn't just punch his ticket just like that... Here's a reminder: Be chivalrous, be multifaceted, and be the forever unprecedented blueprint of what the will of man would do to best any absurdest encounter. Even at the now more convoluted advancing times Lupawn, I've learned/adapted that cryptically from you ever since, I won't let you ever forget that. I defied all impossible odds even from the grave numerous times because of your influences and I didn't come here to see you now a sobbing case. The point being, and as a man of inspecting justice I will not say this lightly: I don't want for YOU to loose your streak in life, the pinnacle of thief's is still within you somewhere, waiting to surprise me + the world even beyond it... I just know it would, cuz I just hate being right."

This is gonna take awhile, sorry

Hey its fine man. As I said there's like a staggering 50+ years of content for Lupin, which is why I said searching old AF franchises that we have dealt with can indeed be draining.

Speaking of which when you have the time: I already replied over the Random Talks section if you recall.

Damn

What's worse is that I had those WWE skins I worked hard on, not just the skin but the movesets. If it's truly broken, then that means starting ALL OVER AGAIN, all of those hours gone.

Peccato. Stuff like Mankatsu or the Samba MV wouldn't count either, right? They act more like their manga versions there.

Probably? Probably not? I question that too.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Those Lupin/Scooby-Doo fan mock-ups on Twitter really said something.

Lupin's Toonforce is such that he enters Hanna Barbera worlds with ease like bruh xD.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Or the Samba MV wouldn't count either, right?

Aww man, it's a bummer if Samba MV doesn't count. Not only does the beat slap, but they do some versatile outlandish stuff too while they're at it.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

If Samba MV counts: Lupin shows further teleporting from far out locations, despite once more being there, he still reveals to be elsewhere leaving decoys to further damage/incapacitate Looney Tunes Style again, and it seems Zeni did not come back from this time.
It could still count, I mean we have feats from "The Woman Called Fujiko Mine" that's basically the Edgy Manga Lupin tone again.

Okay so just in case, something that may seem little, but very crucial I forgot to mention is in Lupin Zero (Mind you, when he was still learning): Both Lupin and Jigen while drunk were somehow able to bring very heavy things out of nowhere (So via this, Lupin/Jigen wouldn't actually run out of supplies), later Lupin does some more agility that eventually can keep up with his father, teleporting again (Possibly somehow putting a curse demon there as Lupin ll wasn't expecting it), etc.

 

[Fireld]

Zeni in this case used his big ironed handcuffing techniques as webbing restraints XD.

Even without the way of the handcuffs, the man is a menance in CQC

Okay. So I managed to catch up with half of the vid at the time so since I'm busy, I will keep it brief.

Spoiler: Spoilers

Sly of course, apparently wins the pole at the end, albeit even they were astonished that it was VERY CLOSE. They mentioned barely everything for both, they have ways to incapacitate each other, etc... However there were very crucial things they forgot as far as I know though: The lack of the Dead Ringer + Teleporting to the point he can do such from far away where he cannot be easily seen, thus figure out a different approach. They mentioned Toonforce, probably don't know that Lupin can potentially pull a Bugs Bunny move as stated. It's not just the Dead Ringers we know though, in return to Babylon - Lupin was severely taken off guard from Zenigata, he gets shot only to appear in copies, it turns out Lupin can still fake his death in more ways then one...

Thoughts? I feel that they left some stuff out regarding Lupin.

Spoiler: Thoughts.

So... I REALLY want to say Lupin too (The voting pole came VERY CLOSE, even they were surprised)... BUT you have to admit, here is the most crucial part: How Lupin can counter the Furry counterpart's Za Warudo/Time Manipulation that will then probably lead to Lupin's silent obliteration in said frozen state, is controversial/debatable currently, as YES Lupin has no resistances regarding such as of yet. It's not just Sly slowing or speeding up, but the Raccoon now has the ability to not be effected by slowed down stuff anymore via the Thievery Attire from the 4th Sly game.
Update on the time predicament: Apparently Sly stopping time works AROUND THE WORLD (Za Warudo in the literal sense) so I know Lupin's chances of budging out of this is very darn heavy...

HOWEVER, ALSO: Lupin still has that unpredictable aura to him at all costs, he may still have some counters against Sly. Such as being able to use his own stealthy Dead Ringers (faking death) + Teleporting with said dead ringer as shown in "The Return Of The Magician": Lupin has Teleporting that can also be out of the bounds of an opponents vicinty and thus, he can Columbo a different approach to defeat Sly, at least from afar...
That is IF Lupin can do it an unaware frozen like that. It has it's concerning uncertainties.
Though EVEN THEN it isn't just these tricks he's used when Pycal returned though - In the Babylon Film, Lupin was severely taken off guard from Zenigata arriving and EVEN THEN confidently shot himself, appearing in copies, only to STILL be elsewhere... So he has ways to still fake death even more, thus find a way to toy with the opponent from the outside or incapacitate with long ranged inventory or other unpredictable traps which I will get to later.
Sly's Za Warudo abilities has a catch apparently, if I recall - It doesn't last forever, and it's only long enough for Sly to make his move (His profile also states this: His Stun/Time technique only affects the opponents body. For example if his opponent shot a bullet and Sly used Stun, the opponent will be frozen in time, but the bullet that was fired will be unaffected). So once the jig is up OR if Sly thinks he's killed Lupin, in reality Lupin can still be from somewhere else via his own abilities, Lupin then uses some of his usual executions if he can.

Outside help isn't allowed here as this is a fight bewteen Lupin and Sly right? Yet I feel like they will have a Solid Snake moment where they contact each other. But thankfully, Lupin has some Metal Gear Codec counters that I will get to later.

As for disguising, costuming for Lupin is good yeah, but to the extent that it can outwit NANOMACHINES... Raccoon Bois disguises are good too, but Mönke Man isn't so easily fooled anyways let alone from a cardboard cutout as he can very easily detect lies, plus the fact he can OUTWIT NANOMACHINES (Lupin has grown wiser over the years, so the whole "Lupin falls for women" is lesser then a weakness now when comes down to it) So Sly seeing past Lupin's disguising/getting fooled by Sly this easily is unlikely.

The music box to put people to sleep shouldn't work on Lupin considering he has resisted these prior and considered worthy from Dreamy Powered DaVinci because of it (There's more resistances then that aside the lack thereof, but again it's to get the ball rolling that was at least mentioned here). The fact Lupin can consistently outwit Zenigata alone, who in Part 4 episode "With a gun in my hand (Currently on YT. English dub.)" can make an exact precise Super-Columbo deduction of what happened is nothing to scoff at.

There's also the fact Lupin may also recieve prior info scanning knowledge of Sly via the monocle, but then we get to the fact Sly can do this too/hack as well therefore challenging barriers for such... So, which one is more effective? Lupin on the other hand, apparently is so good in decoding though if I recall, his Grandfather despite being from the 1800's knew how to create a family code that can break ANY coding regardless? Bare in mind this was before any advanced technology was present, so that's really interesting, not only can Lupin replicate after seeing it once (Power Mimicry?), but also advanced enough to understand/defy Nanomachines + gotten even better overtime.

They still do have hacks/inventory to counter each other (Sly has at least three horseshoes that basically 'could revive him' albeit there could still be a way to counter this such as incapacitation anyways. Thanks to Fireld, Lupin also has a degree of luck, but I bet they wouldn't mention that) though Lupin has inconspicuous looking Amnesia Bubbles that keeps people paralyzed without a memory of what happened for the right time to make his own move (finish off even... Sounds familiar?) + a loud high frequency gadget that stuns people too right? Same with energy manipulation of 1'000'000 absorptions so he may still sap Sly's Sentry Technology.
Now Lupin's most useful wildcard is having the Starman Invulnerbility via the pycal formula, which lasts for several days, but it may be more then enough to counter Slys blows of course, since Lupin is impenetrable here as a result - Lupin may be safe from that strike from behind then, which needs to be done to perform the silent obliteration (Say's so on Sly's profile).
But there's like a whole bunch of other inventory for the past 50+ years so you can all bring up just in case...
Now, Its overkill, but at one point Lupin got his hand on a black hole as a mere example of what he achieved... But here's the most impressive part is that according to one of the commenters: Lupin survived being close to said Black Hole too??

In terms of time travel, that wasn't the only one of course as in "Is Lupin still burning?" He still utilizes Time Traveling in case the other uses such too.

Lupin has insane Enhanced Senses such as in hearing (Yes he has this, even before Nyx. Hearing the ticking of a bomb from far away when others couldn't, senses to counter with magnets, etc.) smelling, and surprisingly decent Extrasensory abilities like being able to sense bloodlusted intentions, sensing Fujiko hiding many times, also senses Ghosts many times too (to the extent he raced Escobar despite being long dead, he was one of the first to realize this), knows where well hidden people are to sensing complex traps when it's not very obvious, via nothing but a frying pan he nonchalantly managed to deflect/destroy vehicles despite not directly looking at it, knew where Fujiko was going to shot from far away before it happens + the fact he can disrepair someone BLIND (Said two feats were in the "Women called Fujiko Mine").
So via this - Lupin cannot not only spoil Sly's intial approach to stealth, but he may also sense the traps Sly has in store too? If Lupin has this then he'll quickly try to dispatch Sly if he can, or maybe go with the Pycal formula to even his odds a lot more.

Both have defeated ancient enemies... Albeit Mamo is actually psychic and at Lupin's core couldn't be analyzed to the extent that both were God's because of it (This resistance is actually VERY GOOD, even more considering who Mamo is XD).

Lupin's Toonforce is also mentioned, albeit I noticed that it can be to a ludicrous extent, since he has created new episodes in the lore which while fan suggested, went with it anyways thus he has control over the script, this is like a Chowder 4th wall breaking move... So Plot Manipulation shenanigans too I guess, once Toonforce is taken into account then plot tinkering shenanigans could be an eventual solid win since Sly has no way to counter that too.
Despite all of this, I am uncertain if DB will fully acknowledge such, I WISH THEY KNEW because albeit an outlandish way to win (There's been weirder endings though so **** it) - Stuff like the eventual 4th wall plot hax, then there's a good chance Lupin would fully win via that.

Now who can also make a move faster? Both have apparent laser feats, but Lupin is debatably faster considering that in "Lupin The First" Lupin managed to Spidermonkey through a touhou gauntlet of them, I say Touhou Gauntlet for a reason, as those lasers came in places EVERYWHERE where one wouldn't be able to dodge normally and got past the trial, that one may argue that Lupin has some Precognition because of this...
Yet they only brought Mamo Lasers up, when in reality Lupin has dodged many more lasers in the main canon then that. Caligostro alone has that, like Jigen moved from lasers while he was submerged in water + Lupin literally moved Clarise from one of them... Why this is important is that these lasers are shown to be INSTANT (Having such appeared in the more tame Caligostro should tell us something very great come to think of it: LUPIN IS THAT FAST).

Sly can time hax, but Lupin could have ways to get out of that, aside the potential Plot hax. Sly's time hax may still have a catch with it not lasting very long, although he now has the thief costume. Albeit if some of these abilities works, then Slys guard is down, Lupin would be far from being easily spotted by now and go for an elimination from afar.

Overall as I said this isn't everything, I wished that they actually went ham on the research as there's 50+ years worth of content, albeit Sly's Raccoonus Stand Ability is REALLY going to make this truly tricky to have a verdict on, but Lupin ALSO has outlandish traits to him after all: it's not as wise to leave Sly with his own outlandish abilities if they sealed the deal with Toonforce, if they truly examine it through ALL POSSIBILITIES.

Again you can mention any others that I forgot, it's as long as it is. I played the Sly Games up to 3, so at first back in the day I would have gone with Suave Raccon Boi... But Suave Mönke Man is just as awesome so I couldn't let him down that easily. Though if by any chance that these may fail, it's a bummer seeing Lupin eventually get "1 Raccon, 1 Caned Human" from a Furry... But Lupin is full of surprises, hell he surprised me, so who knows what else we haven't seen.

The truth is i followed that stream live. They didn't really forget, they just didn't know about those stuff. The only dude who knew about Lupin was struggling to answer stuff about Lupin's(was getting trolled at some points XD!) He said he was only looking for feats, not the characters in general which I ain't suprised cuz he was straight up reading lines old Carmen Sandiago vs Lupin DB Blog. They got the wrong time machine. Speaking of which Lupin should also get BFR with it as it can shoot a beam that teleports far away targets in other timeperiods.

People trying to get into Lupin's mind would end up like this. Even if somehow get in there, they would get to distracted...

About speed I recall them saying Sly intercepted a beam to save another character & has a dodged another LS projectile. The 1st didn't look like a beam & the 2nd I dunno about. I'll admit I'm not familiar with Sly. Lupin's scaling has layers; he could outmanuver Goemon who deflected several lasers & Zenigata who dodged light beams. Even when caught offguard & midair, Lupin could dodge lasers coming sideways.

I gotta be honest I'm not sure sure if the teleport/dead ring trick will be enough to avoid Sly's TS. You're really thought of every option, great analysis.

About the Immeasurable thing. I say this now, as the Looney Tunes should have gotten there too at some point... Which thankfully there is evidence of it: Here's them EFFECTING MR. MXZLPLTK, Taz even wanted to EAT HIM. But overall: Mxzy ironically enough couldn't handle the Looney Tunes Style, so he bailed outta there as fast as he can! (Varying in degrees yes, but still nothing to scoff at, considering what Mxzy is consistently originated out of alone and even then, the dude actually felt overwhelmed).

The same imp that erased a gag dimension.

That makes more sense now nvm. Pauling is in the background recording I guess, chilling for once too.

The mercs have invited her to other fun stuff too

Hey its fine man. As I said there's like a staggering 50+ years of content for Lupin, which is why I said searching old AF franchises that we have dealt with can indeed be draining.


Speaking of which when you have the time: I already replied over the Random Talks section if you recall.

Thanks man!

I'll try to respond as soon as possible there too.

What's worse is that I had those WWE skins I worked hard on, not just the skin but the movesets. If it's truly broken, then that means starting ALL OVER AGAIN, all of those hours gone.

If Samba MV counts: Lupin shows further teleporting from far out locations, despite once more being there, he still reveals to be elsewhere leaving decoys to further damage/incapacitate Looney Tunes Style again, and it seems Zeni did not come back from this time.
It could still count, I mean we have feats from "The Woman Called Fujiko Mine" that's basically the Edgy Manga Lupin tone again.

Yeay! This means we can mention Zenigata hancuffing Jigen & Goemon in record time. Still haven't watched Lupin Zero.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Took awhile to revise, but I'm back.

Even without the way of the handcuffs, the man is a menance in CQC

But of course Zeni has no chill, but now even in the games! Dare I say, literally is the cool old man 'Mike Ermanntraut' grindset, before Mike Ermanntraut was a thinng (Except Zenigata is the type of guy to consider beating up thugs regardless if armed, a casual fun thing. Zeni literally goes up against the perfect not-aim bot Jigen and the legendary OG comet cutting Samurai Jack Goemon).
But also that doesn't seem to be from Sorceress Treasure game, I NEED THAT GAME! Where can I find the ROM of it?!... As soon as my laptop gets fixed/get a new one of course... Maybe mention it in my profile, Discord, whatever. Though I'm not as knowledgeable on the holy Italiano language (I'm one of the OG hammer Wielders as well though, there is actually no EXP gain with fighting Sephi for me too, but I'll play on the ruse of "struggling" cuz I'm relatively a noblemen) it is roughly similar to the Spanish language, so I may feel comfortable with the Italian Dub...
Although again, it's too bad that these may not be main line though...

Also, here's some eerie coincidental throwbacks:
"Mexican Zenigata doesn't exist, he can't hurt you"
Mexican Zenigata:

The best part is that they both have feminine looking wigs!!! XD

You wanna know the most scarily pecuilar connection with all of this however? The actor for Zenigata "Doug Erholtz" voiced a character in English Dub that is now as crucial to the verse that I'm working on, that being "Don Ramon" (the actor dressed up as the inspector also acted as the Don) albeit sure in the animated series, I still thought it was a joke...

But it's true: You can FEEL the cranky Hobo Zenigata Aura there.

The connection for me was like WTF?!! Because upon first re-encountering the Keabu Don Mexigata gag, I thought about such for a sketch someday (Chap basically being summoned by Zenigata for the usual shenanigans), but I didn't think the slight connection would be real!! Am I actually Psychic to some degree!?
IT DOESN'T END THERE, HEAVENS NO: Other Animated English Dub Characters of the said verse like "Chavo" was voiced by none other then Mona Marshall... Yep, the same one who not only voiced some South Park characters, but the English Dub of Doraemon!! XD.
Imagine the even more stranger connection if somewhere out there, an English Dub of Grasshopper Boi Adventures was done by this same guy?? (Same dood also voices Nobita)... It would be absolutely perfect though.

So now we have Sega, TF2, Chespirito Verse/Jojo, DC, and Doraemon connections for the Lupin + Chappie Verses... The more the merrier! XD.

Regarding the realistic AI art, it's a wonder Lupin reminded me of David Tennant before... It was because of this:

I think Zenigata should look a bit bulkier/tad older, though I guess it's said that most Japanese people do look young. They all look good nevertheless.

The truth is i followed that stream live. They didn't really forget, they just didn't know about those stuff. The only dude who knew about Lupin was struggling to answer stuff about Lupin's(was getting trolled at some points XD!) He said he was only looking for feats, not the characters in general which I ain't suprised cuz he was straight up reading lines old Carmen Sandiago vs Lupin DB Blog. They got the wrong time machine. Speaking of which Lupin should also get BFR with it as it can shoot a beam that teleports far away targets in other timeperiods.

People trying to get into Lupin's mind would end up like this. Even if somehow get in there, they would get to distracted...

About speed I recall them saying Sly intercepted a beam to save another character & has a dodged another LS projectile. The 1st didn't look like a beam & the 2nd I dunno about. I'll admit I'm not familiar with Sly. Lupin's scaling has layers; he could outmanuver Goemon who deflected several lasers & Zenigata who dodged light beams. Even when caught offguard & midair, Lupin could dodge lasers coming sideways.

I gotta be honest I'm not sure sure if the teleport/dead ring trick will be enough to avoid Sly's TS. You're really thought of every option, great analysis.

It's tricky indeed per say. Now half of the following that I will say next, may seem like the same revision, but amped + couple more honerable mentions/stats that may still help far more.

(I tried boxing it, but for some reason it covers half when one is on a phone, so read with precession).

Okay so what may sound a bit worse at first is the possibility of Sly having similiar senses too (Aside the ghost stuff as that is obvious). I remember in the end of Sly 3 where Sly noticed the direction of being spied on by Bentley, literally winking at him, and I was right:

Therefore it may seem Lupin's chances of surprise may be also spoiled at first... At least in the conventional sense, when Lupin's Maxed Toonforce is let loose though, that's now a different story (literally) which I will get to more later as that might still lead to Lupin's greatest wincon (and I mean Lupin winking range is more then that, like straight at the audience type of level too... This may not be much at first, but it becomes something more later).

But there's more to it then that anyways.

EVEN THEN if Sly is similar in senses, Lupin has quickly found ways to outsmart those already with superior senses then him, such as Nyx, which he should have took notes of by now. But EVEN THEN I also remember that Lupin could still negate Sly's senses anyways - Lupin's inventory is strong enough to defy Advanced Nanomachine Scans, on top of consistently outwitting Zenigata who has super accurate Batman deductions on his own (Episode: "Lupin lll Part 5 - With a gun in my hand"). As far as I know, I do not recall Sly bypassing this amount... So either way, Lupin may still have that edge of incapping surprise that I was referring to.

So just in case, the thing with Lupin sensing many traps? He did this as far back on Part 1/Green Mario Era (You can intricately give him a booby trapped award, but he will somehow know. Doesn't matter how conventionally disguised/normal one would be, he somehow knows your intentions. Detects traps... I can go on... But yeah aside detecting lies, we have all of that). So once the Lupawn starts tingling regarding Sly's own lethality, Lupawn would be sure to take every corner he can to avoid any terrible fates.

As a reminder, the wincons we currently have are:
• Back the Formula - As I said, the Pycal Formula is an excellent way to bypass the Silent Obliteration BFR too as that is also Lupin's major obstacle aside TS, Sly shouldn't be able to budge Lupin due to being Invulnerable (even with this, the much bigger catch that I recall is testing this with the much more stronger bosses, and Sly couldn't do any BFR one-shots) AND THANKFULLY the TS indeed has limits (Being hit anyways wears it off too I think). Said Formula lasts for several days right? So any physical actions Sly would throw at Lupin wouldn't work, some of the substances Sly has would only have Lupin resisting, and it sure as hell would be enough time for Lupin to do his thing in the outside at least.
• Bugs Bunny manuevers (This ones still a biggie) - In the case of Plot Hax via what has been acknowledged with the 4th wall manuevers, he now has more of a chance then we thought: Lupin may have that OP Precognition Arale acknowledgement of knowing what would happen next, as seen here, here, and here (There should be more instances then just Part 2). In fact if I'm not mistaken, something curious is that Zenigata also acknowledging this plot hax ability? He was disappointed that Lupin didn't write this episode, but some other guy... So in context it would seem that Lupin does have control over his scripts and what happens.
• Incapacitations - Own intricately placed knock out gases (provided that Sly doesn't resist himself), inconspicuous looking Amnesia Bubbles to quickly dispatch Sly, and the like. Something I forgot to mention though is that while Sly has indeed resisted Mind Control, it's under the said exposure that he still couldn't attack back or do his usual moves as quickly, he can only walk away, though again he eventually can shrug it off. So Lupin could still deter him, at least perhaps momentarily? It truly depends on just how powerful the mind hax Lupin has too... Though curiously enough, Carmelita (The Sexy Vixengata) can just as much put Sly in a trance anyways though soooo... That's interesting.

Even without the dead ringer trickery we seen him pull in the Pycal OVA, my thought now is that Lupawn can still pull as many Wukōngs as he could manage, what I mean via what we seen him defy in Babylon (Aside the uno-reversing of projectiles, Lupin despite being taken severely off guard still appeared in different places, which makes Lupin actually difficult to fully kill. It's similar to Grasshopper Boi's Duplications) + the Samba MV (I.E: Lupin can also seemingly teleport places with people despite being shackled by Zenigata, and it covers grand distances + even more if we count what he's faced with other long ranged individuals like Goemon) then it may turn out that Lupin has some factors to get out of as mentioned before, regardless if Sly also has his own Self-Teleportation, that would be part of Lupin's plan too as a trap, the fact Lupin may have unlimited resources/supplies to work with (As seen in Zero), and he has the Super Sonic Pycal Formuler to keep him Invulnerable for long enough.

Hell if you thought Lupin's Toonforce hax wasn't anymore more potent with manipulation of scripts/seeing the future as similarly, here he literally makes TNT's DISSAPPEAR... So as it turns out he has a quick degree of Existence Erasures (he needed to do this quick otherwise those would have exploded too), Lupin can literally hakai certain opponents inventory away.

Now there is something puzzling/trickier for both verses that just came to me, there have been Ghosts of which both have interacted with, not only that though as there might be a Type 7 for them too? I mean for Lupin's case there have been history with actual Ghosts present after death, so is this the same for him? For Sly's case it's possibly the same for him (Albeit when one dies then its a definite end in the games so, it might not be applicable).

BTW, in terms of Time Traveling - I forgot about the more reliable BFR so that's actually a super nice detail, in the ending of Sly 4 they didn't even know where Sly ended up in, so that would be perfect (Albeit maybe a tad redundant when you have Plot hax, still useful)... At least when Sly Cooper 5 finally happens then who knows.
But also as crucially, I cannot believe we underestimated the fact Kyosuke did more then just invent Time Machines: He legit mastered the 4th Dimension... And despite such advancements, Lupin still outwitted him, on 3 separate occasions + knew how to operate such despite the massive 4th Dimensional gap... That's actually very impressive range and can't believe we haven't mentioned it in their verse page, considering the said outlandish advancements that came with it. Makes it all the more interesting that there have been opponents of comparable/superior intellect, and Lupin still got pass them... So it isn't just ancient enemies Lupin has bested, but also things that are far beyond one's leagues in general like the flipping 4th Dimension xD.

Revising some of the IQ too - While it may be implicating/interesting that Lupin probably couldn't read Sly's Thievery Book, there's always a slight probability anyways that he might, and this is pretty overlooked: In "Daisuke Jigens Gravestone" Lupin was eventually able to discover that Yael Okuzaki was using a device hidden on his eye that allowed him to see the cameras in the entire city... Even though Lupin never saw Okuzaki's device, he was able to create a better one, and hacked Okuzaki's.
Mind you this is the same dood that indeed has an ancient code invented by his grandfather to crack nearly anything.
And these are not the only occasions he's done such surprisingly + the fact he can at least manuever with 4th Dimensional individuals/inventory then it's not far fetched to say he'd find a way.

Now... It's time to mention the more out there feats for both - Sly in the 4th game went through "the rip of a space time tunnel" which was suggested by people to be a "Black hole" too? Although it's revealed he did survive the crashing into Egypt... Now I played up to 3, this actually would sound crazy strong... But looking at it again, it really depends on the context. There were arguments in creating "Black Hole's" via the silent obliteration alone... But like the debated energy projectile Solider (Same dood. R.I.P. to the goat) Doc M. shot (Although if you search up how fast energy goes, it's still pretty fast?), it more so seems Sly can only create some form of portal that doesn't fully fall on the Black Hole category, like what Aku does to tear open portals in time, yet it doesn't make him and Jack + Ashi black hole level right? Just BFR. Le Paradox (the Cortex looking skunk) also mentioned something like "Bouncing you through time peroids... That is IF you can even survive it" so it probably is more of a Warping/Teleporting portal then an actual black hole too... Though again, the crashing still seems legit.
BUT OK, even if we give Sly the benefit of the doubt that he has survived BH's, then we get to the fact Lupin has ALSO shown this as yes not only has he gotten his hands on (literally mentioned as a BH too), but literally held/stood close to it, when reality, it should have obliterated you already under its exposure, and yet Lupin was able to hang on for a bit there (Although it's on the Red Jacket thread: You have no clue the trouble I have gone to find this so I hope it's worth it. I forgot where this feat came from though).
(Now recently, somebody did a BH Calc on Megaman that warranted this rating, but who knows how much Lupin BH's could get you).
Hey at least with the slight BH Lupin, he potentially won't get one shot by 7-C to 7-A Spy power wise, that would be an even more humiliating defeat... Although in one of the LS feats has Spy scaling to Heavi who accomplished the Class G "End of the line" Mario feat.

Also I am dead certain that Lupin Co. Have demonstrated Accelerated Development/Reactive Power Level. I guess in IQ as well, given what we know so far.

This is as far as I remember/could work with, at least currently.
Mainly Lupin's greatest wincons currently seems to still have heavy unpredictability and can more then likely counter senses too (Probably still have an advantage in EXP/IQ given Lupin has bested unprecedented individuals as far beyond the 4th Dimension + defeated those of even craftier intellects), the Starman Formula to tank Sly's blows/give him actual time considering that despite the Za Warudo gaps has limits so far (things like bullets can also be fired as well despite being in this state), but sealing the deal further is with Toonforce of which Lupin not only uses offensively/defensively but as sneakily acknowledging of what would happen next of the said situation (meaning seeing past Sly's measures, thus giving him the outlandish info prior or plot manipulation in general), if it comes down to it then the beam BFR should work too.

And it may not mean much at first, but Lupin does have some form of luck/probability manipulation now and then as well that gives him even more of an edge (this wouldn't be the last).

The same imp that erased a gag dimension.

Jesus Christ!... But that also makes L.T. stand out an ordeal more, considering that Mr. M is low-key overwhelmed.

As I said: They are indeed built different. Although sadly there may still be the possibility that LT could get beaten by this Cosmic Gigachad Smurf over here. Although they made Mr. M genuinely struggle, so that might not even be their peak performance for all we know.

The mercs have invited her to other fun stuff too..

Forgot to mention this - Yes, aside the killing/shady motivations, at her core she can actually be a genuinely fun person to be around...
Oh but yes: Pauline is INDEED worth it.

Thanks man!

I'll try to respond as soon as possible there too.

Yessir. I'll try keeping in touch as much as I can as well.

Yes it genuinely sucks. Hours in getting the models just right, and even more for the moveset (their default movesets are pretty lame + doesn't fit their character, while there is a large set of moves it will still take long to find the right ones again).

I dunno if you can still find the screenshots I gave to some of you (I clearly remember the Bugs Bunny kicking Toriyama Goku's ass though. I was trying to find the right hair for Goku, in the WWE Era that I chose is difficult, so I added the one that closely resembled either SS2-SS3), but that Lupin skin I made alone (He also Twinsanity'd with Grasshopper Boi) I have updated a bit more too, it was just immaculate despite the designing being limited from the PS2 Era, I even made one of Sly one time and he looked just as good. I may not be as currently knowledgeable on the more actual intricate modding like good old Mugen, but this is the closest to accomplishing Le Art Fanfic Crossovers as I can get.

Although the WWE game I choose had a more limited custom character creation that resulted in me deleting a few to free up ideas.
Aside Mugen, I am curious to know which other best custom character creating fighting game suggestions are out there?

Yeay! This means we can mention Zenigata hancuffing Jigen & Goemon in record time. Still haven't watched Lupin Zero.

Before I forget, it may further support that "Dead or Alive" had jurisdiction from MonkeyPunch himself... So there you go. We may in fact still use Mankatsu stuff as well.
What notable stuff do we have from Mankatsu again though? There is also this where it seemed the Lupin crew were screwed, only to have a literal windows of opportunity that abnormally popped out of nowhere? (Btw upon acknowledging MP, it may open up the questions to "Manga canon".. Or at least anything else MP directed mainline to not deter the conundrums of philosophical canoncity. The bad is still well... Probably acknowledging Lupin's history of being super edgy xD).

In terms of where to watch Lupin Zero - Remember that site I showcased very long ago, where I made the SB CRT thread that you could cryptically watch SpongeBob SquarePants episodes for the feats due to the damned copyright? It also has some of the Lupin Sagas... Only when I wanted to revise them once more for petes sake, I no longer was able to fully watch them unless I had a plan/subscription or something. So my options became even more limited which sucks... Any suggestions?

 

[Fireld]

Gonna respond to the other stuff later, for now:

I forgot where this feat came from though

I think that's from The Last Job

Yessir. I'll try keeping in touch as much as I can as well.

Thanks again & sorry for taking so long last time.

In terms of where to watch Lupin Zero - Remember that site I showcased very long ago, where I made the SB CRT thread that you could cryptically watch SpongeBob SquarePants episodes for the feats due to the damned copyright? It also has some of the Lupin Sagas... Only when I wanted to revise them once more for petes sake, I no longer was able to fully watch them unless I had a plan/subscription or something. So my options became even more limited which sucks... Any suggestions?

You mean W C O . T V, right? Yeah very annoying, now I'll need replace lots of links in my notes. As for other sites were to watch stuff: Kiss/kim cartoons for SB. Kiss/gogo anime for Lupin. Tho be warned, these sites aren't really safe.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Gonna respond to the other stuff later.

Per usual take your time as I did, it took a while to review the whole thing.

I think that's from The Last Job

So that's where this originated, it would have indeed been the last job, but somehow Lupin survived this thing.

Also something else as critical that I forgot to mention of the said feat: We see Lupin not only hold on from the epicenter of all of that, but also briefly move for a bit... Bare in mind this is as impressive considering Black Holes, of course - GO THIS FAST. So Lupin even movement wise is DEFINITIVELY FASTER then his current rating all together as well (furthers consistency with the barrage of laser feats we have too, but to a MASSIVE DEGREE) + could also fall on the newer peak LS considering he was able to budge for just a bit.

You mean W C O . T V, right? Yeah very annoying, now I'll need replace lots of links in my notes. As for other sites were to watch stuff: Kiss/kim cartoons for SB. Kiss/gogo anime for Lupin. Tho be warned, these sites aren't really safe.

YES, THAT ONE. The last I ever mentioned such a site, it refused to let me send a message, so I'm very happy you knew the hint. I'll be sure to check them out when I have the time.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Bump. How's everyone doing?

Btw another very crucial and impressive thing that was a miss: Lupin after seeing what K. Mamo can do, then does similiar abilities to what K. Mamo does despite of the advanced 4th Dimensional complexities, K. Mamo can teleport opponents like Vanessa Fujicakes away from Lupin, and when Mamo retrieved Fuji she was incapacitated... This is actually very notably OP and can't believe I forgot this, we even see Lupin use similiar tactics/abilities over the years too.

I am also adding this, there have been cases where this counts as Regen. Maybe just Low-Mid, considering this would cause the destruction of not just the bodily air but anything else vital in the body, yet Lupin is fine.

 

[Fireld]

Bump. How's everyone doing?

Meh in mood. At least this thread is still chill

Btw another very crucial and impressive thing that was a miss: Lupin after seeing what K. Mamo can do, then does similiar abilities to what K. Mamo does despite of the advanced 4th Dimensional complexities, K. Mamo can teleport opponents like Vanessa Fujicakes away from Lupin, and when Mamo retrieved Fuji she was incapacitated... This is actually very notably OP and can't believe I forgot this, we even see Lupin use similiar tactics/abilities over the years too.

I am also adding this, there have been cases where this counts as Regen. Maybe just Low-Mid, considering this would cause the destruction of not just the bodily air but anything else vital in the body, yet Lupin is fine.

Now I want to pick up spanish

I was gonna count that as Toon Force/Body Control personally. It's impressive how he could still move/swim even before recovering from that state.

So that's where this originated, it would have indeed been the last job, but somehow Lupin survived this thing.

Also something else as critical that I forgot to mention of the said feat: We see Lupin not only hold on from the epicenter of all of that, but also briefly move for a bit... Bare in mind this is as impressive considering Black Holes, of course - GO THIS FAST. So Lupin even movement wise is DEFINITIVELY FASTER then his current rating all together as well (furthers consistency with the barrage of laser feats we have too, but to a MASSIVE DEGREE) + could also fall on the newer peak LS considering he was able to budge for just a bit.

There will never be a Last Job for him as long as TMS Studio is still around.

If only just 1 of the speed feats I picthed could've gotten calced...

 

[Fireld]

I dunno if you can still find the screenshots I gave to some of you (I clearly remember the Bugs Bunny kicking Toriyama Goku's ass though. I was trying to find the right hair for Goku, in the WWE Era that I chose is difficult, so I added the one that closely resembled either SS2-SS3)

Found them: Wrestler Bunny vs SSJ Indian Chief

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Meh in mood. At least this thread is still chill

Yes, I'm trying to keep track with what I started. The SB Thread for example I have lost track massively, but I am picking it back up as well.

Now I want to pick up spanish

I said this before, but Spanish & Italian languages have some similarities, including Portuguese (In fact the Chappie Verse is most popular in Brazilian regions as well). Amongst other reasonings for Spanish was due to being the most easily accessible for me as of the time that I am writing this, and I clipped these in Streamable as I remember them irritatingly not working in your guy's countries, plus lesser breach of viruses. Seriously, **** copyright

I was gonna count that as Toon Force/Body Control personally. It's impressive how he could still move/swim even before recovering from that state.

I like to think so as well, however I am giving it the massive benefit of the doubt for a reason. I searched what this sort of negative effects can do to a dood, and yes: It indeed destroys important parts... That includes the ears, complete failure to breath air, and brain damage in general (lack of air of course). Lupin clearly shouldn't be alright if the conditions are this extreme, yet he instantly patched up and I think Sandy had Low-Mid Regen from this as well... So there you go (I forgot where this film took place, so someone may need to recall as to how deep Lupin swam).

There will never be a Last Job for him as long as TMS Studio is still around.

Nevermind black holes, if this is how strong it may get: They can be in the elimination of their entire Cosmology, and they'd somehow survive it.

If only just 1 of the speed feats I picthed could've gotten calced...

Yeah I know it sucks so much as Lupin is definitely much more then he is currently. It's not just in this though, but in stats in general I mean stuff like the Pycal Formula, Teleportation, amongst other inventory or hax have yet to be decided or added.

I am curious however, the Anime Facts recommendations didn't seem much help?

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Found them: Wrestler Bunny vs SSJ Indian Chief

Yep that's the one xD.
Another tid bit is that I got as irked about Goku's Indian hair, so I switched to something more akin to Goku's Base Hairline. Obviously it's not a straight up spikey stylized Goku hair (that's for present day WWE games, they then have the actual spikey Super Saiyan hair custom), but something of a more poofy looking live action thing.
To give a near exact description, it's this:

The same hair I added for Spike Spiegel too, it's just with that slight green tinge.

I cannot find the Lupin tag team bouts tho. So they do seem to be in my laptop, which is wrecked of course. The time to go to the far away store where it first originated is always being put on hold, I wish I can work by laptop as it's a more quicker viable process.

 

[Fireld]

Yes, I'm trying to keep track with what I started. The SB Thread for example I have lost track massively, but I am picking it back up as well.

I've completly lost track of it. I doubt I have anything to contribute there

Seriously, **** copyright

Indeed

I like to think so as well, however I am giving it the massive benefit of the doubt for a reason. I searched what this sort of negative effects can do to a dood, and yes: It indeed destroys important parts... That includes the ears, complete failure to breath air, and brain damage in general (lack of air of course). Lupin clearly shouldn't be alright if the conditions are this extreme, yet he instantly patched up and I think Sandy had Low-Mid Regen from this as well... So there you go (I forgot where this film took place, so someone may need to recall as to how deep Lupin swam).

I don't remember which film was it either. You mean this about Sandy? I couldn't find anything on her page.

Yeah I know it sucks so much as Lupin is definitely much more then he is currently. It's not just in this though, but in stats in general I mean stuff like the Pycal Formula, Teleportation, amongst other inventory or hax have yet to be decided or added.

I am curious however, the Anime Facts recommendations didn't seem much help?

I need to make some better gifs about those abilities cuz my last ones were pretty low quality

So far nope, him & another contact of mine haven't done anything yet. At least I'm not completely empty handed. Thanks to Tony's RT I found another feat with a lot of calc potential.

I cannot find the Lupin tag team bouts tho. So they do seem to be in my laptop, which is wrecked of course. The time to go to the far away store where it first originated is always being put on hold, I wish I can work by laptop as it's a more quicker viable process.

Getting flashback when my laptop stay broken for a month, hard times. GL!

 

[Fireld]

Don't mind me, just a random post out of boredom.

 

[Arceus0x]

Greetings gentlemen

 

[Fireld]

Welcome!

 

[Arceus0x]

ngl Lupin III: The first is very similar in animation style to The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn

 

[Fireld]

Yeah, that too was an awesome movie.

 

[Arceus0x]

Yeah, that too was an awesome movie.

most movies i've seen with this style are fire

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Greetings gentlemen

PRAISE THE MAGIC MONKEY CAUNCH!! HOLOLOLO!!!

ngl Lupin III: The first is very similar in animation style to The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn

most movies i've seen with this style are fire

Indeed. Yes Tintin had remarkably similiar things come to think of it, a bit uncanny at first, but it's a good film of Tintin modernized regardless.
Fun Fact: The same company that made "The First" are also the one's whom have contributed with Sonic The Hedgehog.

Btw if it's any interest for you, Fireld finally found people who can calculate, especially on how fast Lupin was moving in that Danmaku Gauntlet scene, being a decent FTL (Aside Speed, this was also suggested for Lupin to have Instinctive Actions, due to the gauntlet obviously coming out from sides that one wouldn't cognitively react to normally. Not the last as in Part 2, the crew were blindfolded and have aimed accurately at projectIles regardless). Fireld also showcased other consistencies (Once more not the last, these are the only ones I can find but Fireld has shown even more) especially the Black Hole feat yet to be calculated (Not just speed in general, but Dura and LS too, LS/Speed comes with Lupin slightly moving despite the sheer mass a BH can give)... So in terms of Speed thus far, we are looking at bare minimum:
"Speed: Relativistic+ to FTL".

I'd kill if there is some MFTL(+) Reactions/Combat Lupin tho XD.