Kirinator07
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She also has EEWhat is Altair first move?
And what is stoping Monika from just EE
What will be useless, since If Monika is erased, she will just enter in her non-existed stateShe also has EE
Monika EE is conceptual, you need High-Godly to survive. Her acausality is not saving her from EE conceptual (type 2)She has Mid-Godly regen, Acausality, and also resistance to Plot Manipulation, plus more on her profile
Couldn't Altair just copy, nullify, or even clone her? or are some of them not on her profile.My vote is on the Club President. Her EE and Beyond Dimensional Existence should make things fairly simple, since she'd most likely start with erasing her from existence.
So, Monika
She does have Fate Manipulation and BFR though, not sure if she leads with it.What will be useless, since If Monika is erased, she will just enter in her non-existed state
Monika EE is conceptual, you need High-Godly to survive. Her acausality is not saving her from EE conceptual (type 2)
Clone or copy Monika is quite useless, since she resist plot hax and can survive after been erased.Couldn't Altair just copy, nullify, or even clone her? or are some of them not on her profile.
Oh forgot, She is a type 1 abstract, how's she gonna get past it? and She could go for BFR and/or Law Hax if it goes another way.The Fate manipulation it's based on her playing a violin.
So... Monika Fra
Her AE 1, is by conceptual, Monika can manipulate concepts.Oh forgot, She is a type 1 abstract, how's she gonna get past it? and She could go for BFR and/or Law Hax if it goes another way.
Monika can only manipulate type 2 conceptsHer AE 1, is by conceptual, Monika can manipulate concepts.
How work her BFR? Her profile didn't say anything about that
Her Law Hax is not combat applicable
Concepts type 2 > concepts type 3Monika can only manipulate type 2 concepts
How works her Mind control?She still has a mind
acausality 4 is not saving you from conceptual EE. Monika will still be able to use her power, even if she is paralised, since the as long as the paralyzed person is still able to move a little and think (From her profile video, the person is still able to move her mouth). How works her Probability Hax?and Altair is also Acausal 4 so she could affect her with Paralysis Inducement and Probability Hax, her Causality Manipulation works on type 4 Acausals
She use her fate manipulation playing a violin.I don't think her Fate is only based on what you said since it states that she broke out and altered fate set forth by the story
What I meant is that Monika resists her own Plot Manipulation, so making a clone of her will be a little useless and her EE will just put Monika in her state of non-existenceAlso not sure if resisting plot hax would prevent her from mimicking or creating a clone of her to battle with considering that she does not need to see her "Body" to mimic him
But she can't affect Type 1 AbstractConcepts type 2 > concepts type 3
It's pretty self-explanatory, hence that there's no further description about it.How works her Mind control?
With her Probability Hax, she forced Sirius into one of the possibilities for her personalityacausality 4 is not saving you from conceptual EE. Monika will still be able to use her power, even if she is paralised, since the as long as the paralyzed person is still able to move a little and think (From her profile video, the person is still able to move her mouth). How works her Probability Hax?
It's passiveShe is not able to use her Causality Manipulation if Monika erased her.
I don't know if you answered the question fully, she generates a violin and its bow to play in order to activate certain facets of her Holopsicon which includes her notable attacks.She use her fate manipulation playing a violin.
She'd still be able to nullify most of her arsenal, she doesn't have a resistance to that.What I meant is that Monika resists her own Plot Manipulation, so making a clone of her will be a little useless and her EE will just put Monika in her state of non-existence
Her AE is based in a concept type 3But she can't affect Type 1 Abstract
It's not self-explanatory, Is by thought, by gesture, by contact or passive?It's pretty self-explanatory, hence that there's no further description about it.
What? Context?With her Probability Hax, she forced Sirius into one of the possibilities for her personality
So, Monika try to erase her, Monika is erased, enter in her non-existence state, and just erase Altair, since her causality Manipulation can't affect NEP.It's passive
I don't know Altair, I just answered what is in the profile.I don't know if you answered the question fully, she generates a violin and its bow to play in order to activate certain facets of her Holopsicon which includes her notable attacks.
- The Twenty-Third Movement of the Cosmos: Fate Reconstruction: Redefines and rebuilds fate. It can be used to break and hold off events that are fated to occur in addition to creating something from nothing.
Her Power Nullification is based in contact and don't have feats to power null Conceptual Manipulation type 2She'd still be able to nullify most of her arsenal, she doesn't have a resistance to that.
It's by thought, her passive causality hax is also operated by her thoughts too.It's not self-explanatory, Is by thought, by gesture, by contact or passive?
Altair's Probability Manipulation was just her using it on Sirius and finding a possibility of becoming her before getting Conceptually overtaken.What? Context?
Altair still has Fate Hax to boot.So, Monika try to erase her, Monika is erased, enter in her non-existence state, and just erase Altair, since her causality Manipulation can't affect NEP.
She first starts in her physical form.Is Monika in her normal form or in her NEP form?
Wait its passive or by thoughts?It's by thought, her passive causality hax is also operated by her thoughts too.
Part of it is Thought based, but its only The Fourteenth Movement of the Cosmos - The Vicissitude of FortuneWait its passive or by thoughts?
Her first move would be to capitalize on EE, then immediately move in with her Her Plot and Passive Causality Hax.What is Altair First move?
Both have Plot Manipulation that is canceled out here by their plot resistances, Altair can use her Probability hax in this case.Fate Manipulation? Even if is passive, Monika is aware of the sequence of the events due to her being able to alter the script, which implies that she can read it. Thus, even if Altair manipulates the fate, Monika can just null it given that Plot > Fate here.
Passive Causality works on type 4 acausals, but she does have NEP lacking history, and BDE might do something idk.Causality hax is quite doodoo, if Altair's first move is EE, Monika gainst Type 4 acausality from her erasure, thus nulling it. Not that Monika lacks causality hax btw.
Don't see what she has against resistance negating power null, Altair resists Monika's power null.So... what stops Monika from stomping?
She does have Type 1 Abstract Existence, but it's based on the collective idea of everyone perceiving her which is only Type 3.The altair page looks very outdated, it has type 3 "concept embodiment" instead of abstract existence, no scans or references,
Because it is. Tons of new info to upgrade her. I'll try to do it this month or so if I get free time.The altair page looks very outdated, it has type 3 "concept embodiment" instead of abstract existence, no scans or references,
No, perception-based concept is no longer type 3 as it used to be.She does have Type 1 Abstract Existence, but it's based on the collective idea of everyone perceiving her which is only Type 3.
If so I could either make a separate thread or just not count the current votes but I don't know whichBecause it is. Tons of new info to upgrade her. I'll try to do it this month or so if I get free time.
Maybe due to Type 4 Concept Manipulation which now isn't a thingNo, perception-based concept is no longer type 3 as it used to be.
You can let this match continue with the existing profiles. No issues with that.so I could either make a separate thread or just not count the current votes but I don't know which
Okay thenYou can let this match continue with the existing profiles. No issues with that.
Monika nulled all of Sayori's powers who has Monika's powers.Both have Plot Manipulation that is canceled out here by their plot resistances, Altair can use her Probability hax in this case.
Proof?Passive Causality works on type 4 acausals
My guy, once Monika erases Altair, it's done.Don't see what she has against resistance negating power null, Altair resists Monika's power null.
Don't know how it would work on Altair's resistance to powernull resistance negationMonika nulled all of Sayori's powers who has Monika's powers.
her Causality Manipulation works on all the Creations who have been separated from the Narrative Causality system that is further supported by the GuidebooksProof?
I'm not your guy, but only her info, data, and concept hax would work here and probably be enough, Altair hasn't shown feats of nulling Type 2 Info/Concept Manipulation.My guy, once Monika erases Altair, it's done.
Monika's hax is Type 2 Concept, Type 2 Information, Reality Warping, Data Manipulation and Plot Manipulation at the same time.