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Also even at rela, his mass would have increased a huge amount, remember, theory of relativity has that shit kick as you approach lightspeed, not just when or after you hit it.
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High 3A Saitama (Please read the post before making a decision)
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Pretty sure rela+ scaling stuff is fair game, we use it for geryuganshoop so
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Yeah, it is fair game.
But it wouldn't be if you actually try and use the theory of relativity at 1:1 face value directly.
But it wouldn't be if you actually try and use the theory of relativity at 1:1 face value directly.
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I mean, outside of the superpowers, and saitama himself, opm actually is relatively tame with the physics breaking bullshit if you think about it
we've got geryu explaining how a black hole works, garou specifically abusing the concepts of physics to create nuclear fission, and I didn't even know what a gamma ray burst was until OPM I'm gonna be real
also hyperspace is sorta a physics thing
uh but yeah the more I think about it, the more I realize that I absolutely have to disagree with this
as long as the sperm cum-for-all battle exists, the ftl high 3-A is just not gonna work no matter how hard you reason
we've got geryu explaining how a black hole works, garou specifically abusing the concepts of physics to create nuclear fission, and I didn't even know what a gamma ray burst was until OPM I'm gonna be real
also hyperspace is sorta a physics thing
uh but yeah the more I think about it, the more I realize that I absolutely have to disagree with this
as long as the sperm cum-for-all battle exists, the ftl high 3-A is just not gonna work no matter how hard you reason
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Well I joined because it seemed like a fun discussion. But I can pretty much say with 100%, absolute certainty, that it will not get accepted. Not even because of the argument for or against this proposal. It's just not gonna get accepted.
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Doesn't the theory of general relativity also warrant that time travel would happen if you go FTL? If they're bound by the theory of general relativity, then that means that they wouldn't have needed all the extra crap to time travel. They would have been doing it as they fought.
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Hmm
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impressive post
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Yeah no. You only get High 3-A if you can physically destroy an infinite universe, have infinite energy, or have statements of being able to destroy an infinite universe.
Using a throwaway line about the theory of relativity as evidence is not any of the above.
Using a throwaway line about the theory of relativity as evidence is not any of the above.
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uh well the main issues here are the scaling implication
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a bit of a derailment
This is as fake as me with a girlfriend, literally Flash says that it is due to the effect of relativity on his body
nah, it's because there are levels above the speed of light (like negative-light) and the speed force and other things prevent speedsters and people from being atomized or generate a universal Black hole by acceleration.
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Also, wasn't it supposed that by traveling faster than light, you would go blind because you are faster than the light reflected in the environment?
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Hard disagree FRA
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Oh hell nah. I don't want to see people pitting him against rimuru, nos or Wukong in a few years time FOS
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Welp that was a speculation seeing ONE's knowledge and objective
Tho anos, rimuru or wukong are already in tier 1
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Rimuru hasn't
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PrinceofPein
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Disagree FRA
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Yeah, the whole theory thing also means that it's just speculation on Genos' part not fact, so it's likely not even true that's what happened with Saitama.
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This thread is rejected regardless, but one possible piece of evidence for high 3-A monster garou is him damaging a dimensional seal according to blast. Of course the scaling issues with sperm still are completely unsolved but it’s still interesting nonetheless
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Lol doesn't the rule of relativity literally say nothing can go above Lightspeed?(Lol tachyons are theorized to be FTL But what the heck)
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that it would require infite energy, the impossible part is just a side effect of infinite energy not existing irl, which (according to the crt) doesn't apply to opm, since they can go ftl
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spoiler alert, it makes the entire cast scale to high 3-A, including a small puppy
so yeah
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Alright, I agree then. Casual caped baldy W
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Hey Dr. Doofenshmirtz. I know you have your CRTincininator ready but guess how even just 0.00000001 mg of Antiparticles are created? Moving at almost the speed of light. Also, we have other examples of Saitama clearly being FTL.
This is a genuinely good argument.
Yeah. It wouldn't even be an AP upgrade for Flashy
That's the whole point.
That's misleading.
Did you read the post? The post isn't about Genos' theory of how Saitama traveled through time, it's about the fact that Saitama is canonnically FTL, and the Theory of Relativity is canon.
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Heavy disagreeal
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Almost all settings with FTL feats have this theory being canon by sheer virtue of them having laws of physics within their narrative and Einstein having existed in the same historical manner at some point.
Can we please stop assuming X theory existing means it's applicable to every instance of a character's feats? Might as well downgrade almost all non-FTL verses to Tier 9 since they follow the 1st Law of Thermodynamics by this logic.
Can we please stop assuming X theory existing means it's applicable to every instance of a character's feats? Might as well downgrade almost all non-FTL verses to Tier 9 since they follow the 1st Law of Thermodynamics by this logic.
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I'd actually like to know why, because minus like one person who brought up a valid point everyones just saying "strong disagree".
What? Physical laws being applied and them being stated to exist are very different things.
Again, what? X theory exists in universe, and is specifically BROUGHT UP IN RELATION TO SAITAMA'S feat!
Unless those verses outright tell us that the 1st law of thermodynamics exists, we ignore it. This scenario is completely unrelated to that.
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No? wdym by applied? As in the verse follows them but never states it? What would be the difference in that other than how it’s conveyed to us?
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I also disagree with this for Ovens and Planck's reasoning and Oliver's explanation on valid examples of relativity being used.
High 3-A via Theory of Relativity is only usable if it is explicitly confirmed by reliable statements and sources within the story that it is indeed taking effect for that feat within that exact moment. Case in point, the Flash. The theory merely being followed in general in the story means absolutely nothing if it isn't being used at that exact moment a feat is being performed.
High 3-A via Theory of Relativity is only usable if it is explicitly confirmed by reliable statements and sources within the story that it is indeed taking effect for that feat within that exact moment. Case in point, the Flash. The theory merely being followed in general in the story means absolutely nothing if it isn't being used at that exact moment a feat is being performed.
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The entire premise of the thread is that "the theory of relativity exists in the verse and he can move at FTL speeds so he should be High 3-A"
When the theory of relativity is tied into a principle that says that no object can move FTL.
It's just cherrypicking what's nice and what's not
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Where's the guidline that says this?
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Kinetic Energy Rules, it's indirectly implied, if relativity is not explicitly stated to take effect within a feat, we only assume the KE to be 4 times that of the Newtonian KE method (That being 0.5 * mass * velocity^2).
However, it's been an unspoken rule far longer than before we applied the effects of the RMP to the Flash.
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