Movements =/= techniques. Deku would tell what Lucci is going to do before he does it and would fundamentally pick apart how he fights. That’s not mimicry it’s predicting, and movements for Deku is more important than understanding the techniques themselves (which he would also do anyway)
Scan of Luffy’s actually TAGGING someone that fast? Or being able to keep up with that speed in combat? “Track” is a strange word choice there.
Scans of Lucci’s Haki getting stronger vs Luffy? Last I checked his Haki stated the exact same the entire fight, why would it increase in potency at all here?
Completely ignoring most of that for “tagged luffy” is not the argument you think it is. That section was for him getting better mid fights to show speed amps won’t do anything after less than 20 seconds when he adapts to the speed.
Luffy isn’t stronger than his attack, and it didn’t even out Luffy down he got back up and that was AFTER he had been fighting Lucci for a long ass time and taken hella damage already. You’re talking as if Lucci hit Luffy with it once when Luffy was at full health and it just one shot him completely.
It isn’t cutting any damage out when he’s stronger than an attack that he could barely remain conscious from.
A. Danger Sense dodge
B. Not caught cause Danger Sense or just break the rings or just dig out the ground like he did vs Gentle
C. Tanks all those for breakfast and Danger Sense dodge
Deku adapt to speed amp and hits him anyway or did you ignore the entire section where I explained that he gets better at predicting faster opponents within seconds.
Deku has no prior knowledge. Deku has no experience with anything Lucci does except Geppo (as it's common sense) and maybe Rankakyu. You act as if Deku knows everything he can do. Deku will analyze him, but remember that he's also getting read as well in the middle of the fight.
Luffy tagged Kuro while he was using Shakushi, which is Relativictic. Kuro passed by him, scratched him, then Luffy managed to grab him before he left and slammed him, all while Kuro is FTE to him. Check Kuro's profiles, the people Kuro scales to, and why this is the case.
Haki in definition gets stronger by fighting stronger opponents. This isn't a Lucci rule, this is a technique rule. And this is done by fighting people stronger than you. Luffy is not stronger than Lucci. So it didn't grow. Guess who's stronger than Lucci in this scenario? Deku.
Tagging someone who is capable of using pure skill to tag someone thouasands of times faster than them is a counter to this.
The technique is durability negation. There is no "isn't stronger", it's durability negation.
That isn't even an argument. He didn't use it in that scenario.
A. Predict his movement and tag him
B. "Not caught cause danger sense" why are you acting as if Deku has never been tagged after he got danger sense?
C. He's not tanking the super dura neg technique, so let's stop acting as if his organs are made of steel
Scans of his observation Haki doing this and not his paper stance?
Lucci is already using every stat amp he has from the get go per your own words. If Deku Stat Amps, he’s already used to Lucci’s speed and will be on par if not superior to him in speed with Fa Jin. His speed amps are irrelevant if he’s already using them or if Deku adapts and predicts him despite them.
A. How when Deku predicts his dodge and his on par if not faster than him with Fa Jin
B. Read A
C. The force from Fa Jin would break through his tekkai and nearly kill him considering what G3 did. 45% alone is > G3, and Fa Jin is an amp beyond it, you’re not thinking logically if you say he can just withstand that easily when G3 left him near unconscious.
Nagant bullets were infinitely harder to predict than the movements of paper in the wind, and the fact that Deku gets better at predicting new abilities within seconds has something to do with my argument.
True I forgot kamisoru existed though idk what it’ll do other than let Deku predict him more.
Pin him how through Danger Sense? Like is he going for a pin instantly as the fight starts with the highest speed amps he has? How if Deku is flying the whole time? By the time he gets the chance for a pin Deku has adapted to his speed and he’s not going to get the chance to pin him at all. And even if he manages to pin him, that doesn’t stop Deku from destroying the ground beneath them to escape the pin anyway like he did when Gentle tried that.
Ok.
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From the get go he's only probably using his base just to test the waters. Lucci is skilled enough to flat out not get hit, especially when he has
knowledge that the dude fighting can break his limbs with a finger flick. On that point he'll use Soru to get around. then he'll use Hybrid. Then he'll use Soru. Then he'll use Kamisoru. Then he'll use Life Return.
A. Lucci fought Luffy, who kept up with a dude reading his mind + predicting his movements + was faster than him. He's capable of handling this.
B. Read A
C. I don't think you understand what Utsugi is. He's not taking the force, it's all being shot back out. This isn't a "I take it and send it back". This is a "no sir"
Luffy
couldn't tag inferior users of Kami-e. Luffy could
predict the movements of Enel, who's Haki was easily able to
predict the
movements of Zoro, who could register
6 swords all trying to attack him off guard. This paper in the wind is hard to keep track of.
The highest speed amp he has is Kamisoru, which he won't use in the beginning of the fight.
He might actually. He used Soru on Luffy off the bat.
And atp I need scans of Deku's quick adapting. You guys are acting like he's garou or something.
This is absolute headcanon for Lucci. There is no reasoning whatsoever that he would awaken Haki out of the blue against someone he has prepped to fight just cause they’re stronger, even if it happens to other characters. Plenty of characters don’t awaken Haki by several tiers despite fighting people stronger than them, and especially not in a fight like you’re proposing Lucci would fight.
And I quote Rayleigh
The real advancement in Haki happens during extreme use in battle.
And I quote our Haki page
Ways of acquiring Haki
- During Fighting: When a person is placed in fights where the mind and body are pushed to the limits, abilities that lay dormant may be awakened suddenly. Training is needed in order for the user to manipulate Haki at ease.
Plenty characters do awaken Haki by fighting people stronger than them. We just don't know of it because its not blatantly stated "they use Haki".
That's why Blackbeard sensed Luffy's Haki all the way back in Jaya even though we never see him explicitly use Haki.
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