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Infinite-sized DC Comics universes
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We should probably add the blog to the verse page, then close this and make the new thread for scaling stuff.
@Confluctor That sound good to you?
@Confluctor That sound good to you?
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Sounds good to me, though it might be a good idea to make a few different threads for different stuff. Like Universe destroying feats, Universe shaking feats, Universe crossing feats, etc, since they probably are big enough discussions for their own threads.
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Alright, I added the blog to the verse page.
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I did, as it is much easier to get attention and contributions from members by being specific and reminding them what the discussion is about instead of adding nonsense titles.Also who changed the title to this shit
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Anyway, is there even need for another thread? The only people who scale to this as of now are Nekron with absorption and Flash at exactly the speed of light, Orion crossing infinite distance in a heartbeat - would pretty much just scale to him only, and probably Lucifer with his processing speed.
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Weeeeeeeeeell, there’s also Wonder Woman’s
MFTL+ feat that involved universe crossing, and it seems like all the MFTL+ characters scale to that. So that could probably use its own thread.
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Technically it's not a flight speed feat, but more so a combat speed and reactions feat.
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It's not exactly consistent with wonder woman. Only those who have consistent statements/lore/feats on this level should be upgraded. For others, it should be judged based on a few things;
- Was the universe crossing the infinite uni or just the 3600 sectors
- Is it consistent? If not, then should be disregarded - unless there is context involved.
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You can, but it was not sufficiently efficient/clearly stated in this particular case.
I suppose that this makes good sense.
This also makes sense to me.
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Okay, sure, that’s not the issue though. Most MFTL+ characters scale off of Diana’s calc. So if Diana’s calc is unusable, we need to scale them to something else.
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Don't the Green Lantern have plenty of MFTL+ calcs?
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Yes, agreed.
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There’s two (scalable) MFTL+ Green Lantern calcs on the verse page, ye.
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I thought they scaled to Lanterns feat?
I will need to relook into this feat of Diana sometimes. Like the original comic and see if it can be still used - but ofc, doubt it's scalable.
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Nah, most of the scaling seems to lead back to Diana.
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That's a big issue now isn't it... Suppose the scaling stuff can be dealt with at a later time then. I don't have a lot of time anytime soon to focus on this. I assumed it was lanterns but idk if others could scale to that, which was much easier than this (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I need to fix the tier 2 and 1 scaling first.
I need to fix the tier 2 and 1 scaling first.
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Not too sure about it being inapplicable for Wondie because again, not a movement speed feat, but a combat speed and reactions feat. I could be wrong tho.
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Yes
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Downgrade first
Deffo. But she doesn't have infinite reaction and combat speed. So that's why I wanna relook at it
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We'd also have to relook at every single speed feat the other guys have that aren't Lanterns so uh...
Unless you wanna scale the others to them, which is fine of course. But it'd be a damn shame if the other guys had no feats of their own.
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That's the issue I didn't expect earlier. I assumed they were scaling to lanterns MFLT+ feat, but I didn't realise it was this feat...
FFS, why is DC such a mess. Their entire 4B is being held up by literally 1 feat too. And now speed too.
FFS, why is DC such a mess. Their entire 4B is being held up by literally 1 feat too. And now speed too.
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Yeah… unfortunately most 4-Bs get their speed by scaling to Diana… or by scaling to Superman, who then scales to Diana.
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I will get through the tier 2 and 1 scaling - hopefully quickly. That is mainly just creating a scaling blog. Then it's time for 4Bs to get unfucked (is that even possible?)
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It should be, it’s just a matter of replacing a blatantly wrong tier with a better one. The main issue is that there’s SO MANY 4-Bs, it’s probably the most common tier for the verse.
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WTF, I could've sworn Superman had a "Comparable to most Green Lanterns who can test drive around the universe while having their ring be on standby mode" or some shit, did that change?That's the issue I didn't expect earlier. I assumed they were scaling to lanterns MFLT+ feat, but I didn't realise it was this feat...
FFS, why is DC such a mess. Their entire 4B is being held up by literally 1 feat too. And now speed too.
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Thank you very much for helping out.
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That's what I assumed too. I am not really sure anymore.
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Yeah he does. Straight up says he's "swifter than Green Lanterns".
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- #276
In that case, we just remove one part then. No problem.
Also I have a feeling the last feat about books was from new 52.
Also I have a feeling the last feat about books was from new 52.
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I remember that Hal Jordan used to have “Comparable, if not swifter than Superman” on his profile.
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- #278
this circular scaling is gonna be the death of me.
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Anyway, since Infinite uni is accepted for PC, imma need someone to unlock Nekron for me so I can fix his absorption speed.
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Nah, I'm sure Hal scales to his own "standby mode Lantern ring makes a car traversing the entire universe worth of 3600 sectors" stuff even now, and Superman scales off of that.
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