Profile Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

[Antvasima]

So just to be clear, what is the issue with the PC verse? If calculations exist and other characters scale to them, what makes those pages worse than the ones that performed the feats? Generally they're not very high quality but it doesn't seem inherently deletion-worthy.

Only 12 of the pages actually scale to the calcs, the rest are as far as we can tell guesswork and based on questionable stuff
Also the only 2 supporters want it nuked

So only said 12 pages stay with the rest being in theory redone later

Are you all absolutely certain that the higher statistics (Low 2-C and similar) are based on guesswork rather than explicitly shown feats that have been mentioned in the relevant Pretty Cure character profile pages?

 

[Tllmbrg]

I'm just going by what @Kflare63 and @Delta333 said, they can further confirm this

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Credit texts at the bottom of such pages seems like a reasonable solution, yes.

So basically "Credits to" followed by a link to the wiki?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes, but we should probably make some sort of official decision regarding where exactly that the ==Credits== sections should be placed in our character profile pages.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

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[Delta333]

Are you all absolutely certain that the higher statistics (Low 2-C and similar) are based on guesswork rather than explicitly shown feats that have been mentioned in the relevant Pretty Cure character profile pages?

Yes, currently Low 2-C feat doesn't exist so I have already used the 3-A feat of Dark King as an example (since for now it's the highest rating) and as I said the universe is not even mentioned anywhere on his scans so I have no idea why he has such AP, at least with the current reasoning (since I have better reasons for 3-A or even infinitely higher tier for him). His AP on profile also links to a tier 4 calc as supporting evidence but I have no idea how is it relevant to a 3-A feat.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that the Pretty Cure pages with unwarranted guesswork statistics can probably be deleted then, but I want confirmations from other staff members here first, and I also think that it seems better if you just revise all of the bad Pretty Cure statistics via a content revision thread instead of completely throwing away all of the work put into them.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I think so, yes, but we should probably make some sort of official decision regarding where exactly that the ==Credits== sections should be placed in our character profile pages.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

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Yeah, it will be better if we have precise instructions on how to do it

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes, but we should probably make some sort of official decision regarding where exactly that the ==Credits== sections should be placed in our character profile pages.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

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@Damage3245 @DarkDragonMedeus @SomebodyData @Andytrenom @Abstractions @Wokistan

Do you have any suggestions for exactly how we should handle this?

 

[Agnaa]

I feel like I have seen some profiles say something like "Credit to X wiki" in bold at the start/end of their summaries, or the start of their NA&T sections, but I can no longer find these. I think this is better since it makes it a bit more clear which part was used, and says it when the reader would be viewing that part of the page. It would feel a tad unsavory to bury some credits like that to the bottom of a massive verse page for a summary located at the top.

 

[Delta333]

Okay. I suppose that the Pretty Cure pages with unwarranted guesswork statistics can probably be deleted then, but I want confirmations from other staff members here first, and I also think that it seems better if you just revise all of the bad Pretty Cure statistics via a content revision thread instead of completely throwing away all of the work put into them.

Thanks for your input but I want to clarify that current profiles barely have any correct information so it's not like old editors put any effort on making them, so throwing away all of the works is not exactly a waste.

 

[Confluctor]

As I said before, I am fine with its complete deletion. It's bad and the person who wants to put efforts into them wants to recreate them from scratch. It's honestly easier to do for pages like this which lacks proper p&a and stuff. And ofc, no bumping hell . Just keep the verse page in a sandbox so you can refer to the calculations and stuff later.

 

[Tllmbrg]

So can I start deleting the pages?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I know Dino Ranger Black was one of the main people who worked on our Pretty Cure pages, but he seems to have been inactive for a long time. I don't mind deleting the guesswork stats pages and what not however.

 

[Antvasima]

I feel like I have seen some profiles say something like "Credit to X wiki" in bold at the start/end of their summaries, or the start of their NA&T sections, but I can no longer find these. I think this is better since it makes it a bit more clear which part was used, and says it when the reader would be viewing that part of the page. It would feel a tad unsavory to bury some credits like that to the bottom of a massive verse page for a summary located at the top.

Well, specific, consistently placed, credits sections seem like much better consistent organisation to me, as we do not move them around depending on which section of a page that was copied from elsewhere. It could simply be specified exactly which part of each page that came from where within these sections.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks for your input but I want to clarify that current profiles barely have any correct information so it's not like old editors put any effort on making them, so throwing away all of the works is not exactly a waste.

As I said before, I am fine with its complete deletion. It's bad and the person who wants to put efforts into them wants to recreate them from scratch. It's honestly easier to do for pages like this which lacks proper p&a and stuff. And ofc, no bumping hell . Just keep the verse page in a sandbox so you can refer to the calculations and stuff later.

I know Dino Ranger Black was one of the main people who worked on our Pretty Cure pages, but he seems to have been inactive for a long time. I don't mind deleting the guesswork stats pages and what not however.

Okay. Thank you for the evaluations. It seems fine to start deleting these pages then, but it obviously has to be done properly, so all links to them from other regular VSB wiki pages are consistently removed.

So can I start deleting the pages?

Yes, I think that seems fine. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Okay I'm finally am done with deleting all the agreed upon pages
I kept the verse page up

 

[Tllmbrg]

Darker Than Black

For detailed information about this series, visit the Darker than Black Wiki. Darker than Black, known in Japan as Darker than Black: The Black Contractor (Japanese: DARKER THAN BLACK -黒の契約者- Hepburn: Dākā Zan Burakku -Kuro no Keiyakusha-), is an anime television series created, directed and...

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Outside Hei's page all the stats either don't have any real reasoning behind or are iffy, no scans and the only supporter is inactive

Trixie (Blade Runner)

Trixie was a rogue Nexus-8 replicant and featured in the anime short Blade Runner Black Out 2022. Three years after the events of Blade Runner, the Tyrell Corporation has developed the new Nexus-8 line of replicants, who now possess lifespans equivalent to that of a regular human. This causes a...

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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus is a Nexus-8 replicant featured in Blade Runner Black Out 2022. He was a combat model on Kalanthia but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that to humans this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox". He then deserted and escaped to...

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Both pages have multiple stats that just don't have any reasoning
So unless if @Naitez is willing to revise both pages they should be axed

Kino

It's important that you use your abilities to the fullest once in a while. Otherwise your skill will grow dull before you even know it.Kino to Hermes Kino (キノ) is the main character of Kino's Journey. They are a composed, stoic, and precocious teenager who travels with their motorrad, Hermes in...

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Weak reasoning for most stats, nearly no scans and so on
@Maruishimaryishi can either revise the verse or let it be nuked

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

and the only supporter is inactive

Nah

 

[Delta333]

Okay I'm finally am done with deleting all the agreed upon pages
I kept the verse page up

5 profiles of Smile Precure are still on the main page despite they have no contents

 

[Armorchompy]

Darker Than Black

For detailed information about this series, visit the Darker than Black Wiki. Darker than Black, known in Japan as Darker than Black: The Black Contractor (Japanese: DARKER THAN BLACK -黒の契約者- Hepburn: Dākā Zan Burakku -Kuro no Keiyakusha-), is an anime television series created, directed and...

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Outside Hei's page all the stats either don't have any real reasoning behind or are iffy, no scans and the only supporter is inactive

You don't exactly need that much reasoning for 9-C and many of those pages kinda explain that the character is an assassin or elite cop which would make them fall in those ratings. Rest, I guess, but whole verse definitely shouldn't get deleted.

Trixie (Blade Runner)

Trixie was a rogue Nexus-8 replicant and featured in the anime short Blade Runner Black Out 2022. Three years after the events of Blade Runner, the Tyrell Corporation has developed the new Nexus-8 line of replicants, who now possess lifespans equivalent to that of a regular human. This causes a...

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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus is a Nexus-8 replicant featured in Blade Runner Black Out 2022. He was a combat model on Kalanthia but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that to humans this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox". He then deserted and escaped to...

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Both pages have multiple stats that just don't have any reasoning
So unless if @Naitez is willing to revise both pages they should be axed

They're BR replicants, fairly sure they're 9-B by default

Kino

It's important that you use your abilities to the fullest once in a while. Otherwise your skill will grow dull before you even know it.Kino to Hermes Kino (キノ) is the main character of Kino's Journey. They are a composed, stoic, and precocious teenager who travels with their motorrad, Hermes in...

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Weak reasoning for most stats, nearly no scans and so on
@Maruishimaryishi can either revise the verse or let it be nuked

Not really? Reasoning's fine, scans would be nice but it's not so horrendously wanked that it needs deletion. Maybe speed but like, still not worth deleting a profile, there's some scans and decent care was taken in some parts of the profiles, chill out. Also don't be so damn aggressive with the supporters.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

The Librarians

The Librarians is an American fantasy-adventure television series developed by John Rogers that is broadcast on TNT, and premiered on December 7, 2014. It is a direct spin-off of The Librarian film series, sharing continuity with the films. On January 24, 2017, TNT renewed the series for a...

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Outdated mostly guesswork. My attempt to revise it didn`t get attention so remove it

 

[Agnaa]

I just had a look and it did get attention. The calc made to replace one AP rating was rejected, and an alternative was suggested, but never implemented. It also looks like, from that thread, that you wanted to change 2 other things on the profiles. There's a dozen of them that have ratings which your CRT didn't try to touch.

Is the entire 20-page verse seriously worth deleting because you couldn't be bothered finishing a CRT for 3 parts of the profiles?

 

[Tllmbrg]

You don't exactly need that much reasoning for 9-C and many of those pages kinda explain that the character is an assassin or elite cop which would make them fall in those ratings. Rest, I guess, but whole verse definitely shouldn't get deleted.

April

Tier: 9-C Name: April, Bella Origin: Darker Than Black Gender: Female Age: Unknown Classification: Human, Contractor, MI6 Agent Powers and Abilities: Peak Human Physical Characteristics physical stats, Atmospheric Pressure Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Can create small hurricanes Attack...

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November 11

Tier: 9-C Name: November 11, Jack Simon Origin: Darker Than Black Gender: Male Age: Unknown Classification: Contractor, MI6 Agent Powers and Abilities: Peak human physical stats, very skilled athlete, ability to freeze whatever he comes in contact with Attack Potency: Street level Speed: Peak...

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Ah yes the epic reasoning of not explaining the rating at all, idc if they're elite anything you need to at lest put actual feats in the AP section (Also considering all this people supposedly have supernatural powers I don't think we should assume anything off their position since they can easily have gotten it with that)

Legit out of the pages in this verse they are either the worst or second worst after the one that gets 8-B durability from taking attacks from a 7-C dude

 

[Tllmbrg]

Not really? Reasoning's fine, scans would be nice but it's not so horrendously wanked that it needs deletion. Maybe speed but like, still not worth deleting a profile, there's some scans and decent care was taken in some parts of the profiles

No it's not, "take out many people" is a vague feat and considering this guy has shown using a gun and has subsonic reactions this can easily be a speed/skill thing
Also there's literally a single scan on the page, 2 if we count the image of him having a gun down in the gallery

 

[Armorchompy]

No it's not, "take out many people" is a vague feat and considering this guy has shown using a gun and has subsonic reactions this can easily be a speed/skill thing
Also there's literally a single scan on the page, 2 if we count the image of him having a gun down in the gallery

Implication is it'd be a physical feat given it's in AP. Might not be, but I don't think we should assume that.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Implication is it'd be a physical feat given it's in AP. Might not be, but I don't think we should assume that.

It's still a vague feat that you can do as a 10-A as well
Taking out multiple people at once needs more context for itself at least to be 9-C

 

[Armorchompy]

It's still a vague feat that you can do as a 10-A as well
Taking out multiple people at once needs more context for itself at least to be 9-C

Alright, you disagree with the rating, that's cool. Not a valid reason to delete.

 

[Tllmbrg]

No my point is that the rating does a poor job actually explaining anything
Again "Taking on multiple people" is a vague description that doesn't actually tell us much about what they did without further context or scans which the page gives neither

 

[Armorchompy]

No my point is that the rating does a poor job actually explaining anything
Again "Taking on multiple people" is a vague description that doesn't actually tell us much about what they did without further context or scans which the page gives neither

Yeah but like, there is a very obvious meaning and that meaning can very well be interpreted as 9-C. Obviously more context would be good but I think the page is like, barely fine enough, given some work definitely went into parts of it.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Which is why I pinged the only supporter of the verse to see if they're willing to revise it

 

[Tllmbrg]

Anyways so I assume outside Hei and the verse page all the pages of Darker Than Black are good to go?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay I'm finally am done with deleting all the agreed upon pages
I kept the verse page up

Thank you. You should probably remove all of the verse page links (and accompanying images) to the deleted pages from the Pretty Cure verse page as well.

 

[Antvasima]

You don't exactly need that much reasoning for 9-C and many of those pages kinda explain that the character is an assassin or elite cop which would make them fall in those ratings. Rest, I guess, but whole verse definitely shouldn't get deleted.

They're BR replicants, fairly sure they're 9-B by default

I agree with these points.

Not really? Reasoning's fine, scans would be nice but it's not so horrendously wanked that it needs deletion. Maybe speed but like, still not worth deleting a profile, there's some scans and decent care was taken in some parts of the profiles, chill out. Also don't be so damn aggressive with the supporters.

These are good points as well.

 

[Tllmbrg]

I agree with these points.

Again for the 9-Cs
There's a difference between self evident stuff and not putting a reasoning at all, not to mention that we can't assume stats like that here
Idk Blade Runner so I won't comment further on it

These are good points as well.

Page needs a revision, only one stat is actually backed up well
If the supporter doesn't want to do it then it should be nuked

 

[Tllmbrg]

Thank you. You should probably remove all of the verse page links (and accompanying images) to the deleted pages from the Pretty Cure verse page as well.

I deleted the links from the verse page
I don't think images need deletion since the idea is to eventually remake all of this

 

[Antvasima]

I deleted the links from the verse page
I don't think images need deletion since the idea is to eventually remake all of this

Okay then. It is rather hard for our visitors to find which Pretty Cure pages that still exist that way though.

 

[Agnaa]

Alright, you disagree with the rating, that's cool. Not a valid reason to delete.

Not thinking that "Defeated multiple people" is 9-C is just "someone disagreeing with the rating"? That really sounds like it should be in the "obviously wrong" camp. Some things just obviously have no reason giving certain tiers.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Okay then. It is rather hard for our visitors to find which Pretty Cure pages that still exist that way though.

I mean evidently it was not popular on site as is
Also the verse page has all the remaining pages on it minus Webster who doesn't seem to have been on it to begin with

 

[Antvasima]

Not thinking that "Defeated multiple people" is 9-C is just "someone disagreeing with the rating"? That really sounds like it should be in the "obviously wrong" camp. Some things just obviously have no reason giving certain tiers.

Well, in the real world even champion fighters would have extremely great troubles with defeating around 5 reasonably trained people at the same time, if all of them were unarmed, and real world champion fighters are tier 9-C if I remember correctly.