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Tiers, yes. But they aren't as bad as most other pages here. And if the supporters don't want to fix it, then sure
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Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)
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I agree with Confluctor, I dont think they quite deserve deletion yet but are definitely very outdated and need some reworks.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Merlin_(Fate/Prototype)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kirschtaria_Wodime
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Caster_(Scáthach-Skadi)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ruler_(James_Moriarty)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cernunnos_(Fate)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Manaka_Sajyou
Lack and scans and from what @Paul_Frank and @John985 said on Discord this pages plagiarize Type Moon wiki pages for the character
@ArkhamDC06 can argue against their deletion
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kirschtaria_Wodime
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Caster_(Scáthach-Skadi)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ruler_(James_Moriarty)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cernunnos_(Fate)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Manaka_Sajyou
Lack and scans and from what @Paul_Frank and @John985 said on Discord this pages plagiarize Type Moon wiki pages for the character
@ArkhamDC06 can argue against their deletion
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Summaries and plagiarized content can easily be changed.
Scans can also likely be found relatively easily enough.
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While it can, there are many profiles that are locked and can't be edited. In addition, they're pretty widely of extremely poor quality anyways, with missing abilities, powers, and poorly made sections.
The scans are also not as easy to find as you imply here. There are dozens of scans for each profile, and some of the profiles have no scans because they are exclusively Japanese characters at the moment and aren't in the English release.
Overall these profiles are of extremely poor quality, lacking scans, and outright plagiarized from the Type-Moon Wiki. They should be deleted.
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For the "plagiarized" content, what I've taken from the wiki is literally their official description so I don't see the problem at using these parts for the skills and NP (I can still change them but most would be similar anyway). The summaries however I can easily change them while keeping the most important elements
For the scans, I need to know what I have to find and I'll search for them but this won't be easy honestly (lack of English translation)
For missing powers and abilities, I just need to know what's missing and I can add them, though I can't for locked profiles
For the scans, I need to know what I have to find and I'll search for them but this won't be easy honestly (lack of English translation)
For missing powers and abilities, I just need to know what's missing and I can add them, though I can't for locked profiles
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Honestly? I don't see an issue with copying and pasting character summaries or whatnot. Or even notable attacks and stuff. There are no brownie points for coming up with original descriptions for everything. Why increase one's workload?
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There's been a CRT in the works for the Lostbelts as a whole, where we gathered scans for every ability.
For some context, Lostbelt 2 is 11 hours long when boiled down to just its cutscenes. Finding the scans and collecting them has been a massive undertaking for the people who are working on said CRT.
Bobsican
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I am aware of the rule, just pointing out that is bad
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Didn't know such thread existed in the first place
For the record, Manaka and Merlin aren't about Lostbelts (doesn't change the problems from the profiles but still noteworthy)
Bobsican
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Oh, in any case, I'll just remind we'd need a site-wide revision to go against the current standard.
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Agreeing with this, not even for my personal case but in general, summaries can be rephrased but coping and pasting at least notable attacks shouldn't be a problem if they are good enough
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About that, sheer curiosity but who can erase profiles? Only admin or more?
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admins, bureaucrats, and content mods
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Curiosity satisfied, thx
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Will say that from what I'm seeing some pages do scale to stuff in the verse so you should change the reasoning there (Like this one https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Brahma_(Monster_Strike) )
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Well, I don't think that we should be overly strict to the point of deleting otherwise good profile pages for these sort of reasons, unless the cases are very extreme, but we should still try to discourage plagiarism unless it is necessary/very hard to avoid.
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I deleted it.
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Perhaps somebody should start a content revision thread and summon the currently active verse supporters to there?
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Are you going to tell that user about their mistake?
azontr
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That is going to take a long while given the lack of active supporters and lack of translations for any of the verse material.
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Thank you for the help.
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You're welcome.
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I will do so.
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There were quite a lot of supporters listed though.
azontr
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Not all of them are active or willing to fix the verse at this time.
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@Antvasima anyways alongside the pages I found can I delete the rest of the Pretty Cure pages?
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If one does find themselves needing to copy/paste a section, you should credit the place where you got it from. Most content on wikis (including ours) is under a license where you're allowed to copy it as long as you give credit.
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How do we credit it? With a link somewhere or we mention the original stuff?
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Mention and a link at the top/bottom of the relevant section, iirc.
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OK
If that's ok, I can at least credit the TM wiki on the profiles I made for starters (at least those that aren't locked)
If that's ok, I can at least credit the TM wiki on the profiles I made for starters (at least those that aren't locked)
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So just to be clear, what is the issue with the PC verse? If calculations exist and other characters scale to them, what makes those pages worse than the ones that performed the feats? Generally they're not very high quality but it doesn't seem inherently deletion-worthy.
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Only 12 of the pages actually scale to the calcs, the rest are as far as we can tell guesswork and based on questionable stuff
Also the only 2 supporters want it nuked
So only said 12 pages stay with the rest being in theory redone later
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Credit texts at the bottom of such pages seems like a reasonable solution, yes.
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Are you all absolutely certain that the higher statistics (Low 2-C and similar) are based on guesswork rather than explicitly shown feats that have been mentioned in the relevant Pretty Cure character profile pages?
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