why do people doubt that CCC Gilgamesh is multiversal?

[God243]

so do you guys agree with the reddit guy?

 

[Vietthai96]

I'm completely don't care

 

[kuramamyfav68]

so do you guys agree with the reddit guy?

I tried making a thread on it, but it got locked super fast lol.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He is very welcome to come on site and just copy paste it himself.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

He is very welcome to come on site and just copy paste it himself.

I think it says somewhere in the edits that a friend of his tried posting it on a site (presumably here), and that people weren't responding properly.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He’s welcome to try again. If not, such is life.

 

[Hecatia_Gaming]

why do people doubt that CCC Gilgamesh is multiversal?​

Because he is country lvl

 

[God243]

I can create the crl with what the guy wrote or it goes against the rules?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If you want to represent his arguments, sure.

 

[FallenMaou2234]

Because he is country lvl

Based

 

[kuramamyfav68]

I can create the crl with what the guy wrote or it goes against the rules?

I already did it... and it got locked super fast. But sure, please do so.

 

[FallenMaou2234]

I don't know much about actual arguments about his feats but this is what i know;

Outside the wiki I often hear statements like "CCC Gilgamesh isn't multiversal and such because the story takes place in a giant computer" and then they proceed to explain the whole premise of the series.
Going by that logic, stuff like all of SAO power scaling is also completely invalidated because a "fictional computer world within a fictional story = fictional and not real". What a revelation, fiction isn't real...

Also I guess people scale things differently than they do here and have their own systems where he doesn't qualify for that status.

The Mooncell tooootally isn't STATED to be an ancient super computer that has of recorded all of human history from habits and people to souls and concepts, being capable of providing a "definite" simulation of the future annnd is also totally not stated to able to affect the real world through its sheer level of internal calculative ability

BASED

 

[Hecatia_Gaming]

Based

Always

 

[God243]

The Mooncell tooootally isn't STATED to be an ancient super computer that has of recorded all of human history from habits and people to souls and concepts, being capable of providing a "definite" simulation of the future annnd is also totally not stated to able to affect the real world through its sheer level of internal calculative ability

BASED

do you know any counter arguments for what the reddit guy wrote?

 

[HyperZero95]

1.The moon cell is no where close to infinite.

Meanwhile Fate/Extra material:

This is the borderline that lies between the seventh layer and Moon Cell‘s core. Pseudo-Spiritrons are made of light, and it’s warned that at the speed of light it would take 404 years to get past this border and to the computer addresses which lie beyond. This essentially communicates “that address doesn’t exist” to anyone/anything attempting to pass.
It’s actually an infinite distance that cannot be covered even if you try for centuries.
The only thing that can serve as a bridge across the borderline to connect Moon Cell‘s core to the normal address space is the arena that Moon Cell made to summon the victor of the Holy Grail War.
…Is how it’s supposed to be, but BB used an imaginary number space to force herself to become an infinite concept,
and by using a fake arena she managed to break past the borderline.

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Because some can't handle fax.

 

[FallenMaou2234]

do you know any counter arguments for what the reddit guy wrote?

why not I got time i guess

-He said Divine Spirits are Higher dimensional in general and used it as an anti-feat saying Goddess Rhongo is a divine spirit but can be interacted with but that's false because there are different Tiers based on Divinity and authority Quetzalcoatl, Euryale, Stheno, Parvati, and Jaguar man are all also "Divine Spirits" but you've never heard any of them being called higher dimensional and that's because they don't have the levels of divinity and authority that a Tamamo with all nine tails or Buddah would meaning they aren't higher dimensional like the latter two

-Also he brought up there being infinite timelines and Multiversal but that doesn't even matter anymore cause The Nasuverse God tiers have been in tier 1 for a while now

-He said that Rin's statement used "Like" and not "is" and therefore should not be interpreted as a reality fiction difference but forgets that the statement itself is what we call an analogy and not a statement of fact so in that context "is" and "like" are essentially synonymous and as a result purposefully taking the word "like" out of context and using it as a justification for the statement not to be interpreted literally is well.....he also states that its merely a different perspective of time but also conveniently leaves out the scan where BB is stated to view the world as a quote on quote "book" which is the most textbook example of a reality fiction difference that you can get and Zelretch also views parallel worlds as a "Book" as seen in the Strange/Fake manga

-Now onto the textures bit and this.......this was not great. The problem here is that he's equating the physical planet to the texture but that's not how that works. The Texture contains the planet but the planet isn't the texture itself, because the texture is a "Layer of reality" and thus not something that can be yeeted by conventional attacks. That's like me saying Saber Alter nuked the Einzbern castle therefore she destroyed part of the texture of the earth or Ishtar nuked Uruk therefore she destroyed part of the texture of the earth that's just not how they work. so him saying Moriarty eas going to destroy the shinjuku singularity with a meteor isn't an anti-feat because he's destroying Shinjuku and not the texture itself. He also mentioned how the texture in which humans today live is a thin layer covering the surface of the planet and therefore that means the texture is not infinite which is kinda a leap in logic cause I don't see how those two pieces of information correlate exactly. That could just be them saying that the Reverse side is larger than the human texture so I don't know what's going on there. And the part about the Spiritual Tomb of Albion reaching the "Reverse Side" is pretty much debunked in volume 8 of The Case Files when it was stated that the dragon who built the tomb died before he could finish it so it doesn't go all the way.

-Also
No one:.........
Absolutely No one:...........
Da Vinci: There isn't a single noble phantasm that can destroy the planet
Arjuna Alter, Strange Fake Gilgamesh, Space Ishtar, Surtr, Zeus, Kiara, Kama, Goetia, BB, The Alien God: AM I A JOKE TO YOU????


annnnd that's about it i guess

 

[Vietthai96]

Texture is just layers, the real Planet Earth is the big ball of molten magna and rock that reside at the inner most of the Earth, that why Ea is an Anti-World NP, it blast all the texture to reveal the actual planet inside, hidden by the layers of reality that is the textures

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Since this came up, allow me to quickly explain even though i am a bit late.
Mahachakravartin and i go a few months back. During a discord debate we became friends and he disagreed with the nasuverse ratings. His main argument was that higher dimensions in nasuverse only gave the power to see past, present and future at once rather then any outright reality fiction difference. When i showed his argument to crimson it was rejected since the greater interpretation of reality fiction difference was more accepted. Ever since that we did not try to deal with any nasuverse related thing here since ....well, different interpretations. That's what basically happened. Apart from that according to him he does not need vs battles approval to validate his arguments, considering the fact that literally forumn NRVNQSR itself and fgo reddit agrees with him.

 

[God243]

Since this came up, allow me to quickly explain even though i am a bit late.
Mahachakravartin and i go a few months back. During a discord debate we became friends and he disagreed with the nasuverse ratings. His main argument was that higher dimensions in nasuverse only gave the power to see past, present and future at once rather then any outright reality fiction difference. When i showed his argument to crimson it was rejected since the greater interpretation of reality fiction difference was more accepted. Ever since that we did not try to deal with any nasuverse related thing here since ....well, different interpretations. That's what basically happened.

hi issei. I have seen all Debunk of fate bro. I personally am against the multiversal 8D fate It made more sense in multiversal+

 

[Vietthai96]

hi issei. I have seen all Debunk of fate bro. I personally am against the multiversal 8D fate It made more sense in multiversal+

everything will stop making sense when it go past 2-A

 

[God243]

everything will stop making sense when it go past 2-A

?

 

[Vietthai96]

?

nah, just a joke from me though