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INTRODUCTION:

Hi again, I've gathered you here to continue wanking Boros continue with the only point that was left unconcluded on this thread, which upgrades Base Boros' physicals to 6-A. I'll rewrite it:

Armored Boros' current physical ratings are "At least City level, possibly Island level" for Attack Potency, and "At least Small City level, possibly Island level, Continent level with Armor" for Durability. My purpose here is to remove the distinction between his physicals and his armor, given that there is no evidence to back it up.


REASONING:

Boros' armor is often thought about as a protection for him. Truth is, it has never been portrayed that way. In fact, the only explanation on the armor we got, which was from Boros himself, depicts it as an artifact "he uses to seal his all too powerful strength". In other words, its purpose is not for combat, but rather to prevent Boros from going all out at all times. Approaching a side point, Boros' armor in the manga, as opposed to its anime version, seems to be connected to his body, meaning they may not be totally independent, but linked in some way.

Boros also tanks a punch from Saitama that breaks his ship's pillar. Boros' Ship has a calculation that puts its durability at 6-A/ Continent level (roughly 884 Teratons) from withstanding Saitama's moon jump. Something important to note is that Boros' head isn't protected by the armor and still gets gets hit against the pillar without seemingly any damage. Having his physicals be at best 70,153.1746 times weaker than his armor, which he should scale to, is just not right.

To further solidify his new ratings and make his AP match his durability: Boros was willing to fight Saitama in his armored form after he sensed Saitama's power after he had broken a 6-A durability door, meaning he is confident on dealing damage on Saitama even in his base state.


FINAL RATINGS:

If these were accepted, I think the AP and durability rating should look like this:

Tier: 6-A/ High 6-A/ At least High 6-A, higher with Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon.

Attack Potency: Continent level (Was confident on fighting Saitama even after he had destroyed his ship's door).

Durability: Continent level (Was able to tank an attack that smashed through the walls of his ship/ Should be higher than his AP).


If you want to argue Armored Boros being "possibly FTL" too scaling above Geryuganshoop, I'll let you discuss it, but I myself prefer to stick to AP and dura on this thread
 
Agree. The armor was never a protection. It was just to prevent Boros from going all out. Plus, the armor broke while was Boros' head or any other exposed part wasn't even damaged. So, if anything, Base Boros should scale to/ be greater than the armor in durability.
 
Well, Boros doesn't scale above Geryu's Rel+ feat, but to Saitama's FTL feat against Geryu, so if that's the logic we're using "possibly FTL" should be kept, as it is not an upscaling from a possibly.

I'll let you guys decide that as well.

OP seems to makes sense.

Scaling him above Geryuganshoop should only give a "possibly At least Relativistic+", the same with his second key.
This, but I don’t think his Armored key should scale to Gery. Only his Released and Meteoric Burst keys should scale.

I think the rest of the OP makes sense btw
Agree with the tier part, disagree with FTL, Boros upscaling from geryuganshoop is only a vague upscaling, different from saitama
 
I disagree for now. Boros was confident that his top three underlings could take on Saitama after Geryuganshoop told him that Saitama destroyed 20% of the ship and Geryuganshoop still had some confidence that his attacks against Saitama would work after watching Saitama destroy the ship. Unless Goribibas, Mezl, and Geryugan all scale somewhat, I don't think it's hard to see why using the pillar makes any sense.
 
I disagree for now. Boros was confident that his top three underlings could take on Saitama after Geryuganshoop told him that Saitama destroyed 20% of the ship and Geryuganshoop still had some confidence that his attacks against Saitama would work after watching Saitama destroy the ship. Unless Goribibas, Mezl, and Geryugan all scale somewhat, I don't think it's hard to see why using the pillar makes any sense.
Well, there are many problems with this.

First, Boros hadn't actually sensed Saitama's power at that point. When he did, he looked way more impressed than before. He even called his underlings "minions".

Second, there is no actual evidence Boros knows how durable is the ship exactly, nor there is evidence to say the three generals would have even scathed the ship because there was no interaction between them.

Third, you could be implying that Boros ship's durability is greater in some parts than others, but the calculation seems to assume everything took the same energy. That, or you are simply saying the calc is an outlier.
 
I agree with this overall, but I have a question;

Could CSRC scale to low 5C as Boros's lower forms all scale to High 6A anyways?

Also, I think armored Boros would be relativistic, and then Unleashed Boros could scale to Relativistic+ to Sol, while Metoric Burst would still scale to FTL, as his base should scale above Gery.
 
but the calculation seems to assume everything took the same energy.
That… might be problematic. I’m not a calc guy, but I don’t think we should assume everything took the same amount of force as the hull that Saitama landed on.
 
That… might be problematic. I’m not a calc guy, but I don’t think we should assume everything took the same amount of force as the hull that Saitama landed on.
The gravity core was fine even after taking that moon jump. The 20% of the ship destroyed could have been taking the same amount of damage.
 
That… might be problematic. I’m not a calc guy, but I don’t think we should assume everything took the same amount of force as the hull that Saitama landed on.
idk shit about calcs so don't take my word on it. I believe ByAsura also told me that this case was different from HQs durability because of something regarding the distribution of energy.
 
Well, there are many problems with this.

First, Boros hadn't actually sensed Saitama's power at that point. When he did, he looked way more impressed than before. He even called his underlings "minions".

Second, there is no actual evidence Boros knows how durable is the ship exactly, nor there is evidence to say the three generals would have even scathed the ship because there was no interaction between them.

Third, you could be implying that Boros ship's durability is greater in some parts than others, but the calculation seems to assume everything took the same energy. That, or you are simply saying the calc is an outlier.
That doesn't exactly matter.

Geryuganshoop is the one who monitors the ship. I highly doubt a highly technologically advanced alien space pirates wouldn't be aware of how durable their FTL ship is.

The calculation could be speaking of the whole ship's outer layer, the part of the ship that actually took the 6-A landing. It doesn't make a lick of sense if every single part of the ship is 6-A.
 
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That doesn't exactly matter.
It does tho.

Geryuganshoop is the one who monitors the ship. I highly doubt a highly technologically advanced alien space pirates wouldn't be aware of how durable their FTL ship is.
Your argument requires an assumption.

The calculation could be speaking of the whole ship's outer layer, the part of the ship that actually took the 6-A landing. It doesn't make a lick of sense if every single part of the ship is 6-A.
You would need to talk with knowledgeable members about the calc, but as for now, the accepted thing is that every part of the ship is 6-A. Plus what ByAsura told me, I will try to find it.

Edit: Found it, comments 29 and 31.
 
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Those Pillars look like they are made from some kind of stone, it's kind of reaching when you assume it has Continental durability without any actual evidence.
The outer hull of the ship that took Saitama's Moon Jump is made from some kind of metal too, so it's different from stone pillars.
 
It does tho.
Boros impression of Saitama is irrelevant to Boros believing Mezalgard, Goribabas and Geryuganshoop could possibly take Saitama after hearing he destroyed 20% of the ship and Geryuganshoop still having confidence in being able to fight Saitama.
Your argument requires an assumption.
I'd like to think the Dark Matter Thieves with their hyper-advanced tech would be aware of something so basic in engineering. But you are right, it is an assumption.
You would need to talk with knowledgable members about the calc, but as for now, the accepted thing is that every part of the ship is 6-A. Plus what ByAsura told me, I will try to find it.
Edit: Found it, comments 29 and 31.
I don't think ByAsura's comment is saying what you think it's saying.
 
Boros also tanks a punch from Saitama that breaks his ship's pillar. Boros' Ship has a calculation that puts its durability at 6-A/ Continent level (roughly 884 Teratons) from withstanding Saitama's moon jump.
Key point here, the ship's outer hull is what withstands the moon jump. Not the interior or the random pillars which is what Boros was hit against.

There's no reason to scale the hull's durability to the durability of some random pillars that Gery damaged during his storm attack.
If you want to argue Armored Boros being "possibly FTL" too scaling above Geryuganshoop
We're not doing that. Just because you're stronger than someone doesn't mean you suddenly scale to a special projectile speed.
 
I like how all this time Boros had 6-A durability with his armor and no one said anything about it, but when someone tries to use that same justification in the profile to make an upgrade, now you suddenly care about it and it's wrong.

Plus a bit of hypocrisy because you were completely fine with scaling the durability of the outside of the Heroes Association HQ with its interior, when you could have made the same argument.

ImposingTiger is just using something that was accepted and in Boros' profile, to suddenly throw this argument against him just feels cheap and lazy, make a CRT when you think something is wrong so people don't have to waste their time in things like this.
 
Wait nevermind. Geryuganshoop has his anime blackhole feat listed on his profile....6-A Geryuganshoop let's goo....I guess.
 
I like how all this time Boros had 6-A durability with his armor and no one said anything about it, but when someone tries to use that same justification in the profile to make an upgrade, now you suddenly care about it and it's wrong.
People can change their views on things, I'm sure you and others have had one opinion here about a rating and changed your mind on it later. If I agreed to it before I don't agree with it now.
Plus a bit of hypocrisy because you were completely fine with scaling the durability of the outside of the Heroes Association HQ with its interior, when you could have made the same argument.
I agreed to it originally, but, later on I looked at it in a more critical light and was against such scaling. Its why I was for the downgrade, because scaling an interior structure to a durable exterior one doesn't make a ton of sense. Plenty of things have stronger hulls or sidings then they do interior. In this case Gery himself damaged the pillars, meaning they're not as strong as the outside armor.
ImposingTiger is just using something that was accepted and in Boros' profile, to suddenly throw this argument against him just feels cheap and lazy, make a CRT when you think something is wrong so people don't have to waste their time in things like this.
You're right, I should have done something earlier about it.
 
I like how all this time Boros had 6-A durability with his armor and no one said anything about it, but when someone tries to use that same justification in the profile to make an upgrade, now you suddenly care about it and it's wrong.

Plus a bit of hypocrisy because you were completely fine with scaling the durability of the outside of the Heroes Association HQ with its interior, when you could have made the same argument.

ImposingTiger is just using something that was accepted and in Boros' profile, to suddenly throw this argument against him just feels cheap and lazy, make a CRT when you think something is wrong so people don't have to waste their time in things like this.
It turns out that this CRT is going to downgrade his amour...

OT: It is sad but as the others and Qaws have said above, pillars/doors shouldn't be comparable to the hull in terms of durability. I think the argument was that they were made of the same material. Whether the difference is that large or not is something I don't know of.
 
Are you fine with a solid rating or prefer a possible/likely one?
I'd imagine it would just be changing the 6-C rating to a 6-A one. Since the scaling is still relies on some assumptions.
 
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