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What is the conensus about the speed rating?
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Yeah the speed rating is different. Boros being able to one tap and clown his subordinates doesn't translate to being faster than Gery's attacks. He could just tank and spank or something along those lines. Its why we never scaled Orochi to FTL despite the Murata quote back when we used those.What is the conensus about the speed rating?
I think the argument is that Boros thought he could take on Saitama after the latter reacted to Geryu's sub-light attacks.Yeah the speed rating is different. Boros being able to one tap and clown his subordinates doesn't translate to being faster than Gery's attacks. He could just tank and spank or something along those lines. Its why we never scaled Orochi to FTL despite the Murata quote back when we used those.
Attack Potency: At least Small City level (As the most powerful member of the Dark Matter Thieves, he should be superior to the likes of Melzalgald), possibly/likely Continent level (Was confident in fighting Saitama even after he had destroyed his ship's door, which is stated to have very solid construction, making it somewhat comparable to the durability of the outer hull).
Attack Potency: Likely/Possibly Continent level (..)
Attack Potency: Continent level (..)
But the thing is that Boros really wouldn't know that. The thing from Murata is that Saitama sees it as a bad joke and after tanking the attack he just threw a rock.Saitama after the latter reacted to Geryu's sub-light attacks.
That would downgrade all of Boros’ “possibly FTL” stats then, wouldn’t it?But the thing is that Boros really wouldn't know that. The thing from Murata is that Saitama sees it as a bad joke and after tanking the attack he just threw a rock.
I'm not seeing a valid reasoning to scale Boros' speed that high for this incarnation.
No, it's just that Armoured Boros doesn't scale. The other two versions directly fought SaitamaThat would downgrade all of Boros’ “possibly FTL” stats then, wouldn’t it?
We don’t scale off of Saitama and his speed justification in Released is clearly based on scaling to Geryuganshoop. So…No, it's just that Armoured Boros doesn't scale. The other two versions directly fought Saitama
Okay.. so which format do we choose here?
Only for released if we go down that path. MB visibly shocked Saitama during his rush so it would stay.That would downgrade all of Boros’ “possibly FTL” stats then, wouldn’t it?
^^mb pos ftl is my view on itOnly for released if we go down that path. MB visibly shocked Saitama during his rush so it would stay.
No? This is only restrained.Can it be just "likely Continent Level" instead? Small City Level being there feels weird since it is Boros we are talking about.
Boros's chamber has solid construction. It's implied to be more durable than other parts of the ship.
Aren't the pillars and doors made of the same material? What is your point by emphasizing the fact that the hull is made of metal?What you said is different from what the scan says. It was not implied or stated that those stone pillars are more durable than the outer hull which is made of metal.
Solid Construction=/=Equivalent durability to the outer hull.
The outer metal hull tanked Saitama's jump, not the stone pillars.Aren't the pillars and doors made of the same material? What is your point by emphasizing the fact that the hull is made of metal?
after he had broken a 6-A durability door
They are all made of metal. So I assume your argument is that the outer hull is made of harder metal?Those Pillars look like they are made from some kind of stone.
The outer hull of the ship that took Saitama's Moon Jump is made from some kind of metal too, so it's different from stone pillars.
Regarding the door, didn't Geryuganshoop fight Saitama after he broke though the door in the manga?The argument is that since the door, pillars and the outer hull are made of metal, plus with the statement the throne room has very solid construction, they are arguably relative in durability.
Don't get me wrong, I was just addressing your points regarding the door and pillars are not made of metal, but some random stones.
They are all made of metal. So I assume your argument is that the outer hull is made of harder metal?
And? Geryuganshoop isn't stated to be able to sense power levels. He can't know how strong you must be to break the door.Regarding the door, didn't Geryuganshoop fight Saitama after he broke though the door in the manga?
There is no stone, that's just what Saitama called it. Like when he called the Lava he bathed in water.What you said is different from what the scan says. It was not implied or stated that those stone pillars are more durable than the outer hull which is made of metal.
Solid Construction=/=Equivalent durability to the outer hull.
It depends on how much Geryuganshoop knew about the durability of the door. It's unlikely that he was completely ignorant but he might indeed have underestimated the amount of force needed for the door.And? Geryuganshoop isn't stated to be able to sense power levels. He can't know how strong you must be to break the door.
Some characters also just overestimate themselves.It depends on how much Geryuganshoop knew about the durability of the door. It's unlikely that he was completely ignorant but he might indeed have underestimated the amount of force needed for the door.
Yeah, there is that as well. A lot of characters in the series tend to do that, so that isn't implausible.Some characters also just overestimate themselves.
He’s talking about the pillar debris which has the exact appearance of stone and rock whereas the ship’s outside (which is what took the 6-A landing) is explicitly drawn, bends, and breaks like metal. This is shown numerous times. There is a difference between the interior and exterior of the ship and this is even further emphasized when once the ship falls, you see stone, not metal falling from above in Boros' room. Stone with the same appearance as the stones from the pillars and door in that room.There is no stone, that's just what Saitama called it. Like when he called the Lava he bathed in water.
The material is very much a factor. Why would the two being different not be a factor? One material is explicitly metal and is the one that survived a 6-A landing, the other is stone didn't and has no feat to support it. It doesn't matter if there are statements to differentiate the outside and the interior of the ship and there are no statements to say they are the same.The material is a non factor here tbh. The thing is the inside durbility of the ship isn't differentiated from the outside in any statement. If anything, like I said before, the main room, which guards the core, should be harder than every other part.
It isn't because rocks (supposedly) aren't necessarily weaker than steel in fiction. That's assuming they are really rocks.The material is very much a factor. Why would the two being different not be a factor?
It does matter. The burden of proof is on you to prove they are not as hard as one another, because there are no statements that say so. The only statement we got on the ship's durability was one talking about its insides and how strong its unknown steel was. If the outside were stronger they would have said so, but they make no differentiation.One material is explicitly metal and is the one that survived a 6-A landing, the other is stone very didn't and has no feat to support it. It doesn't matter if there are statements to differentiate the outside and the interior of the ship and there are no statements to say they are the same.
That is also an assumption on your part. I could say: what if Boros weren't present? Who would protect the core then? Furthermore, it isn't the only room with the same composition. The camera room also looks like Boros', and he isn't there to protect it. Instead, it should be the most important room of the entire ship because it is the control center, yet it is weaker than every other part? Makes no sense. They both should be harder.And saying the main room that guards the core should be harder than every part is an assumption. For all we know, there could be a reason the room couldn't be metal and that is why Boros is there to protect the core.
Yeah, the doors are implied here to be harder than the rest of the ship, which is literally the same material as the one that tanked Saitama's jump. Then there is Boros' room, the pillars of which look like the door.I'm confused why the databook says the pillars and doors are made of metal, despite them looking like rocks/stones. Perhaps that is some kind of alien metal that looks like rocks?
That's irrelevant when the rocks don't have feats of surviving 6-A damage compared to the metal that does.It isn't because rocks (supposedly) aren't necessarily weaker than steel in fiction. That's assuming they are really rocks.
Outside survived 6-A damage, inside did not, that's enough proof. We already know the outside is strong because it took numerous 7-A attacks and a 6-A landing which was all drawn to be impressive.It does matter. The burden of proof is on you to prove they are not as hard as one another, because there are no statements that say so. The only statement we got on the ship's durability was one talking about its insides and how strong its unknown steel was. If the outside were stronger they would have said so, but they make no differentiation.
My assumption was just to show that there are perfectly reasonable explanations other than your assumption for why the room is made of stone. Regardless, this is irrelevant because, at the end of the day, it's an assumption to say Boros' room should be harder than every other part of the ship.That is also an assumption on your part. I could say: what if Boros weren't present? Who would protect the core then? Furthermore, it isn't the only room with the same composition. The camera room also looks like Boros', and he isn't there to protect it. Instead, it should be the most important room of the entire ship because it is the control center, yet it is weaker than every other part? Makes no sense. They both should be harder.