TENFOLD, huh? Who's that referring to?https://media.**********.net/attachments/820211190042066945/924045363608952852/20211220_135951.jpg?width=325&height=433
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Figures. I always viewed G2 as a tenfold multiplier. Can't remember who told me it, but there were good arguments made for it being between 7 to 10 times.
I asked it to be translated
Makes sense based on the Doriki system anyway. Between Blueno and Lucci's base is an a x5 difference, and Luffy beating on Blueno in base then moving to a guy x5 stronger, overwhelming said guy with G2 and even keeping pace if not occasionally outperforming Zoan Lucci who's stronger than base Lucci-
Nothing... Just a higher
Well there we have it : Dhttps://media.**********.net/attachments/820211190042066945/924045363608952852/20211220_135951.jpg?width=325&height=433
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I was about to say..
Oh, wait, it's not an official databook from Oda?
Yes it is... But it's the French version of Databook yellow
French to english translation. "Décuplée" means "ten times" in the french translation as well. So the term "tenfold/Ten times" stays consistent across both translations.
Then why did you ask if it was official?
I don't know
... Maybe you guys only want Japanese version or something
It's One Piece, there's always scaling headaches.
You do know that neither the SSj1 was stated in the verse to be exactly 50x and that we only do it by comparing it with the Kaioken?
Which is still better than nothing, as Mitch said off-site to me, that multiplier is consistent with the gap in doriki from Blueno to Lucci and the hypothetical times 2 of a Zoan (in this case Lucci's), the problem is that unlike Kaioken these two aren't accepted so we wouldn't be able to pull a SSJ multiplier and "calc" it in verse and then apply an extra source for confirmation, same way SSJ2 and 3 aren't accepted.
DBZ's multipliers aren't consistent with their feats in the first place. A character gets a x2 multiplier off their last form and jump from star level to solar system.
?? I didn't understand...
Katakuri, Doffy, both are casually > G2, yet base Luffy somehow survives their attacks even with such a gap, in Kata's case he took a ridiculous amount of damage that simply makes no sense if Kata is casually 10x Luffy. Hody taking pretty much the same amount of damage from Base and G2 is also kinda inconsistent.?? I didn't understand...
Isn't that just his rubber that protects him or his haki?
Can you give an example?
We only use the 50x which is actually consistent in it's first appearance, the others not being consistent doesn't matter that much ig.
Okay? That's good but that's not a reason to use the multiplier.
Did you read my post right above yours? Np if you didn't but c'mon, the 5x isn't accepted, nor is the gap from hybrid to base.
Multipliers are treated entirely different from other statements, rn i can't remember any multiplier that comes entirely from a databook that we accept, like SSJ2 may not be consistent but afaik SSJ3 is and we still don't use it.
Maybe they weren't trying hard enough
When did i say i don't like it? I am like that with all multipliers in and out of OP.
Haki has resistance to resistance negation...
Luffy's Haki, Devil Fruit and himself gets stronger continuously especially when fighting
Show me...
There was such a constant argument during previous vs debates about how the likes of Luffy and Zoro can soak up damage that far outclasses their durability in base. Why ignore it now? Luffy's opponents were never strong enough to flat out one shot him pre ts anyway, because if the gap between himself and Lucci was x10, Lucci still had to bypass his rubberiness, which he failed.
