• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Scout (Team Fortress 2) vs Tracer (Overwatch)

Status
Not open for further replies.
Abstractions said:
These are not even remotely comparable, I urge you to be more honest.
Click to expand...
My bad overhyped it. still I think that enough to dodge tracer.
Abstractions said:
Genji can wall climb, double jump, swift strike, and perform acrobatic maneuvers within his jumps along with being able to deflect, this is much more agile than what Scout could hope to be.
Click to expand...
Agility isn't my point. my point is movement. scout can get really high in the sky and change directions mid air multiple times. he isn't a sitting duck is what I'm trying to say
Abstractions said:
This is blatantly untrue, being grazed by a rocket caused him to feel immense pain let alone be shot by a bullet, which was enough to kill Sniper.
Click to expand...
Scout has survived getting most if not all of his blood punched out and was still talking. he was already injured when he got hit by that rocket
Abstractions said:
This isn't a chase because she has blinks.
Click to expand...
Widowmaker was capable of keeping away from tracer by evading her gun fire or firing back causing her to dodge and take cover. she cant blink too much or she'll go into cooldown and lose her main ability.

Also about the doomfist video, she doesn't seem to go that crazy any other time in any of the other shorts. could it be that she fighting him like that because of who he was? I don't think she would fight a scrawny Boston kid the same way she would fight against the most most powerful man in her verse. she seems more prone to taunting and joking with others to be honest.
 
She joked around with Widow the first time Round because she knew what Widow was capable of at close range and really didn't have much to genuinely lose because of the damn dirty ape backing her up.
Knifeman29 said:
and again when did the wrestling match between Widowmaker and Winston occur
Click to expand...
I literally HEAVILY IMPLIED I don't think that ever happened, cause i don't recall Widow wrestling with Harambe over there in their one fight.
DaReaperMan said:
Weekly...
Click to expand...
 
That's my point she doesn't seem to really go all out like she did against Doomfist unless the situation is dire.

and about weekly, I'm new here but he didn't seem to be well liked. what did he do that was so bad?
 
Knifeman29 said:
That's my point she doesn't seem to really go all out like she did against Doomfist unless the situation is dire.

and about weekly, I'm new here but he didn't seem to be well liked. what did he do that was so bad?
Click to expand...
And she still spams the living cum out of blink even when she isn't Essentially bloodlusted

Oh he took many feats grossly out of context, using them to wank verses he liked and straight up lied and stone walled many times on anything. He lost his staff position because of numerous stunts he's pulled and he got banned for trying to bribe Mr. Bambu. So yeah. Scummy guy.
 
DaReaperMan said:
And she still spams the living cum out of blink even when she isn't Essentially bloodlusted
Click to expand...
Yeah but it alot more manageable. I think scout can still dodge. and still she doesn't 100% spam it. she would overheat the accelerator if she did.

DaReaperMan said:
Scout was very clearly exaggerating there.
Click to expand...
Still he'd have had to lose a lot of blood. also I remember some feats in the comics. I'll look for them later

DaReaperMan said:
Oh he took many feats grossly out of context, using them to wank verses he liked and straight up lied and stone walled many times on anything. He lost his staff position because of numerous stunts he's pulled and he got banned for trying to bribe Mr. Bambu. So yeah. Scummy guy.
Click to expand...
all that to have a character be city level or something?
 
Knifeman29 said:
Yeah but it alot more manageable. I think scout can still dodge. and still she doesn't 100% spam it. she would overheat the accelerator if she did.


Still he'd have had to lose a lot of blood. also I remember some feats in the comics. I'll look for them later


all that to have a character be city level or something?
Click to expand...
You mean that thing that's only ever happened once and has never happened again even when she was spamming it way more? Yeah, no.

I doubt scout lost much blood at all considering we never see it and like 5 punches from presumably heavy would warrant a reaction like that implying it hurt

Nope! For RWBY to be out of High 8-C and into 8-B with one calc. Which was high 8-C anyway after the fact.
 
Frankly I'm thinking about removing that weakness from her profile due to inconsistencies, in much longer fights where she spammed blink way more she never ran out of juice, yet in like a minute or two fire fight she somehow ran herself dry? And we've seen what happens when the Chronal Accelerator gets deactivated some way or another. And Tracer definitely didn't do that.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Frankly I'm thinking about removing that weakness from her profile due to inconsistencies, in much longer fights where she spammed blink way more she never ran out of juice, yet in like a minute or two fire fight she somehow ran herself dry? And we've seen what happens when the Chronal Accelerator gets deactivated some way or another. And Tracer definitely didn't do that.
Click to expand...
Actually, that weakness isn't even WORDED CORRECTLY. Holy shit weekly what the **** were you doing?
 
I don't think the AP advantage is THAT high for Tracer, considering she downscales from a 0.008 ton feat, and Soldier 76 was clearly injured quite a bit from that feat. Scout was already injured, and took another rocket beforehand barely surviving from his 0.007 ton feat.

Though, if it's that unfair, I can give Scout his Power Ups/Spells, or Vaporizing weapons

In the mean time, I have changed the distance to 20 meters.

Also, I'm pretty sure Scout not being able to attack under BONK! is a game mechanic, considering he can do stuff like reload, and even taunt kill. It would be unfair if he just had an Ubercharge in his pocket at any time.
 
Last edited:
DaReaperMan said:
Doesn't help Tracer also has a MASSIVE AP advantage, merely downscaling from Small Building Level+ scout can't damage her conventionally.


That's cute and all but dodging a spray of bullets by just, moving out of their way when they're at their max range, isn't a feat.
Click to expand...
I'm assuming you're voting Tracer?
 
Knifeman29 said:
are you going to give scout power ups and spells or no?
Click to expand...
I doubt it’s necessary, since Scout has a wide variety of weapons, not to mention several automatic pistols, one of which heals on hit, as well as many burst weapons, so he really shouldn’t have too much trouble hitting Tracer. Not to mention, he outranges her. So it should honestly be a fairly even fight, giving Scout spells and power ups seems unfair.
 
Going with Tracer. She dances around him, claps his cheeks, and then busts a cap in his ass . Dude can't take on Tracer.
 
I'd prefer Scout voters to restate their reasons for the vote so it would be easier to tackle them all at once, as without elaboration I can only assume the reasons for doing so are bunk.

Knifeman29 said:
Still he'd have had to lose a lot of blood. also I remember some feats in the comics. I'll look for them later
Click to expand...
Scout has bled out quite fast on multiple occasions.
 
Rtxthegamer said:
Is this matchup really that one-sided?
Click to expand...
People are voting based on variety which, without actual justification as to why it would matter, only serves as a filler argument to something rather irrelevant to the fight.

People say Scout would win because he has more equipment to take advantage of, yet it would simultaneously mean he has more options he has to decide to use in such a short period of time, it's a double-edged sword. Meanwhile Tracer doesn't care about any of that, and she'd still be dodging the same gunfire and blinking in the same fashion; she doesn't have to worry at all because when it comes down to it, it's all about if Scout can actually hit her enough times to kill her before she recalls or miraculously makes the Chronal Accelerator malfunction and either prevent her from blinking/recalling or make her fade out of existence altogether, thus incapacitating her.

The former is unlikely due to the fact she's made it hard for Genji in their training sessions, and he can deflect large amounts of gunfire on his own so his reactions are considerably higher than Scout's before Bonk! is accounted for.

Note that I have not said that it is 100% impossible for Scout to win, but it my eyes it would take a freak accident like Tracer tripping over her shoe laces and missing every single shot, brushing aside some character flaws and assuming optimal strategies for one party but not for the other for it to be feasible.

Rtxthegamer said:
Also, I'm pretty sure Scout not being able to attack under BONK! is a game mechanic, considering he can do stuff like reload, and even taunt kill.
Click to expand...
The interpret it as a character flaw on Scout's part, while it is activated he feels untouchable and thus can only taunt opponents while it is active. So he's not going to attack when using it.
 
Abstractions said:
People are voting based on variety which, without actual justification as to why it would matter, only serves as a filler argument to something rather irrelevant to the fight.

People say Scout would win because he has more equipment to take advantage of, yet it would simultaneously mean he has more options he has to decide to use in such a short period of time, it's a double-edged sword. Meanwhile Tracer doesn't care about any of that, and she'd still be dodging the same gunfire and blinking in the same fashion; she doesn't have to worry at all because when it comes down to it, it's all about if Scout can actually hit her enough times to kill her before she recalls or miraculously makes the Chronal Accelerator malfunction and either prevent her from blinking/recalling or make her fade out of existence altogether, thus incapacitating her.

The former is unlikely due to the fact she's made it hard for Genji in their training sessions, and he can deflect large amounts of gunfire on his own so his reactions are considerably higher than Scout's before Bonk! is accounted for.

Note that I have not said that it is 100% impossible for Scout to win, but it my eyes it would take a freak accident like Tracer tripping over her shoe laces and missing every single shot, brushing aside some character flaws and assuming optimal strategies for one party but not for the other for it to be feasible.


The interpret it as a character flaw on Scout's part, while it is activated he feels untouchable and thus can only taunt opponents while it is active. So he's not going to attack when using it.
Click to expand...
I'm removing that weakness there below
DaReaperMan said:
Click to expand...
 
Abstractions said:
People are voting based on variety which, without actual justification as to why it would matter, only serves as a filler argument to something rather irrelevant to the fight.

People say Scout would win because he has more equipment to take advantage of, yet it would simultaneously mean he has more options he has to decide to use in such a short period of time, it's a double-edged sword.
Click to expand...
I don't really see how having more weapons = being a double edged sword. It just means he has more options to choose from if the situation calls for it. He's not gonna have a panic attack, nor contemplate for extended periods of time trying to decide which weapon he will use next, Scout isn't that type of person.
Abstractions said:
when it comes down to it, it's all about if Scout can actually hit her enough times to kill her before she recalls or miraculously makes the Chronal Accelerator malfunction and either prevent her from blinking/recalling or make her fade out of existence altogether, thus incapacitating her.
Click to expand...
I think it is still possible for Scout to hit her enough times, since he has several automatic pistols, and while it doesn't deal damage, a very large splash radius with the Mad Milk/Mutated Milk, ergo he doesn't need a direct line of sight to hit her, just a general idea of where she is currently.

From what I can see in the video you linked, even when Tracer is blink spamming, she seems to have openings whenever she is firing her pistols, as she doesn't seem to be able to attack while blinking. It's not like she is a constant blur firing from all directions that Scout is unable to see. So it is definitely possible for Scout to hit her enough times imo.
Abstractions said:
The former is unlikely due to the fact she's made it hard for Genji in their training sessions, and he can deflect large amounts of gunfire on his own so his reactions are considerably higher than Scout's before Bonk! is accounted for.
Click to expand...
Speed is equal, so I don't think this really applies here, as this seems more of a speed feat than anything. It's gonna be more of a case of awareness of surroundings in this fight for Scout due to Tracer's Blink Spam.
Abstractions said:
The interpret it as a character flaw on Scout's part, while it is activated he feels untouchable and thus can only taunt opponents while it is active. So he's not going to attack when using it.
Click to expand...
Well this is more of a personal interpretation. His "taunts" (or rather voicelines) are only after he gets "hit" by something. Scout can still preform actions while under BONK! like reloading and taunt-killing, so worst case, he can use it to get in a better position.
 
Rtxthegamer said:
I don't really see how having more weapons = being a double edged sword. It just means he has more options to choose from if the situation calls for it. He's not gonna have a panic attack, nor contemplate for extended periods of time trying to decide which weapon he will use next, Scout isn't that type of person.
Click to expand...
Except the situation isn't one that changes whether he's using your classic Scattergun or Force of Nature, the fact he's equipped with everything when his loadout is usually restricted to three things only is enough to suggest he's going to need to make choices as to what is actually optimal for him here.

Rtxthegamer said:
I think it is still possible for Scout to hit her enough times, since he has several automatic pistols, and while it doesn't deal damage, a very large splash radius with the Mad Milk/Mutated Milk, ergo he doesn't need a direct line of sight to hit her, just a general idea of where she is currently.
Click to expand...
Him hitting her can be undone by Recalling, which isn't a form of healing reliant on hitting your already extremely slippery target, I also just think you overestimate Scout a bit, he's not dealing with people as agile as he is on a regular basis.

Tracer also wields what are essentially automatic pistols, but she's not experiencing the same issues Scout is.

Mad Milk is a thrown projectile that would still take much more precise prediction to hit with, he'd have to throw it relatively close to himself and at the ground if he wanted to hit Tracer otherwise he'd just flat out miss.

Rtxthegamer said:
Speed is equal, so I don't think this really applies here, as this seems more of a speed feat than anything
Click to expand...
Whether it's speed equal or not is irrelevant to the point I made, that a full on awareness issue by someone that is for all intents and purposes better than Scout at what he does, Genji not catching Tracers blinks would still be the same if not worse for Scout and he's someone who can actually deflect bullets, Scout cannot.

Rtxthegamer said:
Well this is more of a personal interpretation. His "taunts" (or rather voicelines) are only after he gets "hit" by something. Scout can still preform actions while under BONK! like reloading and taunt-killing, so worst case, he can use it to get in a better position.
Click to expand...
Taunt killing or just taunting in general, they aren't 100% designed for kills and can just be used for them, point of the matter is that he's going to play cocky and won't be attacking while under Bonk!.

He, however, can't get into a much better position because Tracer would still physically outspeed him with Blinks.
 
I don't think this match is as one-sided as people here think it is, I think its actually quite close. However, if Tracer's time thingamajig gets hit, she would just recall, right? I doubt Scout would be able to fight her and take her down twice in a row.

Tracer FRA
 
FC5azafXsAQiS88
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

SpiteBattles
Dedmos (MC) vs Scout (TF2) [0-0-0]
Replies
7
Views
697
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69
Hank_J._Wimbleton_69
Redite250
Scout fights a skater
Replies
8
Views
608
Redite250
Redite250
WeeklyBattles
An Everyday Force of Nature - Scout vs Logan Paul
Replies
7
Views
918
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Artorimachi_Meteoraft
Sans2345
'HEAVY DON'T WANT TO SIGN PETITION FROM TINY BABY MAN!" (Heavy vs Postal Dude) (0-0-0)
Replies
7
Views
644
MinecraftHater2011
MinecraftHater2011
Pizzabox492
Berdly vs Scout
Replies
7
Views
811
It_is_i_wyatt
It_is_i_wyatt
Back
Top