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Some Random One Piece CRT

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StrawHatArslan said:
wait, crackers dura scales to g4? what about kat
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Only his AP scales to G4, Kat's dura scales below that.

And because of this additional 4x multiplier, now even more people scale up there because Oven is more durable than Cracker, so upgrades for Sanji, Vergo, Doffy,, Law, Smoker, and more. Yayyy.

Upgrade one, upgrade all.
 
Yeah, **** no.

This extra 4x on top of it for Monster Hody's AP needs to go.
 
Yeah, **** no.
This extra 4x on top of it for Monster Hody's AP needs to go.
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Since the amount of pills he ate is unknown there, should we just say Monster Hody is "higher" than before without assigning a specific value?
 
KingTempest said:
And because of this additional 4x multiplier, now even more people scale up there because Oven is more durable than Cracker, so upgrades for Sanji, Vergo, Doffy,, Law, Smoker, and more. Yayyy.
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You can't scale Vergo to that, DJ was 2Gts at that point, and it makes more sense to him have developed mid WCI than between FMI to DR.
Damage3245 said:
Since the amount of pills he ate is unknown there, should we just say Monster Hody is "higher" than before without assigning a specific value?
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Disagree, i think the 4x works much better, it doesn't raise G3-G4 to a whole new level but also isn't a vague "much higher" which we would need to add to many characters.
 
4x seems a bit random to me. It seems like you should be arguing for an 16x multiplier since there's four "chomp" sounds at least.

Which would make the total multipliers for Hody Jones to be 512x.
 
XDragnoir said:
You can't scale Vergo to that, DJ was 2Gts at that point, and it makes more sense to him have developed mid WCI than between FMI to DR.
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This is the exact same Sanji from that time, nothing at all has changed from those 2 points
 
Damage3245 said:
4x seems a bit random to me. It seems like you should be arguing for an 16x multiplier since there's four "chomp" sounds at least.

Which would make the total multipliers for Hody Jones to be 512x.
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4x is the effect of more than 1 pill.

The pills also have a healing effect, and he just got his organs burned and sent flying meters across the ocean. We know he took more than 2, but those probably didn't even make him stronger and he was trying to heal off of his damage (which is why he took the pills in the first place).

At least 2 is the safest thing we can do
 
KingTempest said:
This is the exact same Sanji from that time, nothing at all has changed from those 2 points
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It did change, he literally did no damage to Luffy earlier in the arc and with DJ did a not so extreme damage to an Amped Wada (<2Gts), then he is suddenly using Adv. Kenbu and damaging a H7A+ (>3,9GTs) without DJ. This reminds me, i don't think pre-WCI Sanji should have Adv. Kenbu like his profile has currently, not really consistent, but i will do a CRT for that later.
 
XDragnoir said:
It did change, he literally did no damage to Luffy earlier in the arc and with DJ did a not so extreme damage to an Amped Wada (<2Gts), then he is suddenly using Adv. Kenbu and damaging a H7A+ (>3,9GTs) without DJ. This reminds me, i don't think pre-WCI Sanji should have Adv. Kenbu like his profile has currently, not really consistent, but i will do a CRT for that later.
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Well, you do have a point
 
KingTempest said:
4x is the effect of more than 1 pill.

The pills also have a healing effect, and he just got his organs burned and sent flying meters across the ocean. We know he took more than 2, but those probably didn't even make him stronger and he was trying to heal off of his damage (which is why he took the pills in the first place).

At least 2 is the safest thing we can do
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wait so are we using the 4x or not?? since you said at least 2

meaning monster hody is 3.9 GT and gear third is 3.9 GT
 
Im also beyond confused as to how the current scaling for kata, g4 luffy, cracker, and doffy is looking like? can someone explain to me how? and with what multipliers
 
StrawHatArslan said:
Im also beyond confused as to how the current scaling for kata, g4 luffy, cracker, and doffy is looking like? can someone explain to me how? and with what multipliers
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Is that the only thing you're worried about?
It's the same damn thing that has happened before.
Nothing has changed.

Katakuri scales to G4th Luffy.
Cracker scales to G4th Luffy.
G4th Luffy upscales from G3rd Luffy, who (via you guys is now 4x the 994 megatons) making him Island level.
Doflamingo's physicals scale relative to Law.

Sanji scales 2x G2nd Luffy for casually hurting an amped Wadatsumi who's 2x more durable than the one who took a punch from G2nd Luffy.
Vergo, Smoker, and Law scale to Sanji.
Doflamingo's physicals scale to Law and Sanji, his string scales above Law, Smoker, and Sanji, and his Awakening is "higher than before"

You've asked about the same things for the past 4 pages.
Usopp, Caesar and Trebol.
How anything done to any character scales to Katakuri.
The scaling between Katakuri, Cracker, G4th Luffy, and Doflamingo.
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StrawHatArslan said:
Yeah what tempest said confused the shit out of me, he first says he wants to get rid of it but then it seems like he doesn’t so idek what to say
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I will get this clear since people can't read me.

I had an outburst from the numerous amounts of revisions I had to edit plus the increase of the multiplier.

The current shit is fine.

And even if I disagreed with the multiplier, it is the same exact shit that we've said already like 5 times.
Check the sandbox, the thread, anything. Nothing has changed for those 4 characters.
 
KingTempest said:
Is that the only thing you're worried about?
It's the same damn thing that has happened before.
Nothing has changed.

Katakuri scales to G4th Luffy.
Cracker scales to G4th Luffy.
G4th Luffy upscales from G3rd Luffy, who (via you guys is now 4x the 994 megatons) making him Island level.
Doflamingo's physicals scale relative to Law.

Sanji scales 2x G2nd Luffy for casually hurting an amped Wadatsumi who's 2x more durable than the one who took a punch from G2nd Luffy.
Vergo, Smoker, and Law scale to Sanji.
Doflamingo's physicals scale to Law and Sanji, his string scales above Law, Smoker, and Sanji, and his Awakening is "higher than before"

You've asked about the same things for the past 4 pages.


I will get this clear since people can't read me.

I had an outburst from the numerous amounts of revisions I had to edit plus the increase of the multiplier.

The current shit is fine.

And even if I disagreed with the multiplier, it is the same exact shit that we've said already like 5 times.
Check the sandbox, the thread, anything. Nothing has changed for those 4 characters.
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Well you said the 4x multiplier has got to go, but now you’re utilizing it, so it’s confusing dawg
 
Plus the sandbox has not been updated with the multipliers with g4th being 3.9 GT, and wadatsumi being 2 gt, but it's fine, you can take your time
 
Question: Would we in anyway get a circular scaling chain with wadatsumi scaling to sanji at 2GT?


Cause wouldnt sanji scale to his brothers, then his brothers scale to base kata, making him 2 GT in base, and g2 luffy scaling to base kat? isn't that circular? unless you take the statement of them getting stronger after every island.
 
StrawHatArslan said:
Question: Would we in anyway get a circular scaling chain with wadatsumi scaling to sanji at 2GT?


Cause wouldnt sanji scale to his brothers, then his brothers scale to base kata, making him 2 GT in base, and g2 luffy scaling to base kat? isn't that circular? unless you take the statement of them getting stronger after every island.
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Gear second doesn't scale to base katakuri.
 
Also just to confirm, these are kata's keys

Base: 2 GT
Mochi Mochi no Mi: 3.9 GT
Awakening: 4.3 GT

Boundman: 4.3 GT (R1/R2)
Gear Third: 3.9 GT (R1) 4.3 GT (R2)
Snakeman would scale to 3.9 GT correct? off of kata's normal mochi mochi
 
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FluffyCreatureZ said:
Why tf does g3 scale abive g4 wtf.
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it only scales above snakeman, not boundman.

This is simple, R2 gear third can match an awakening attack from katakuri, with his mochi, but snakeman gets hurt by the same version of that attack, from a katakuri that isn't awakened and a smaller version of that attack
 
StrawHatArslan said:
it only scales above snakeman, not boundman.

This is simple, R2 gear third can match an awakening attack from katakuri, with his mochi, but snakeman gets hurt by the same version of that attack, from a katakuri that isn't awakened and a smaller version of that attack
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That makes no sense, katakuri could've gotten stronger too, luffy's haki should be on par or stronger in g4 than g3. It makes no sense if luffy's durability is higher in g3 than in g4 when they are using the same haki.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
That makes no sense, katakuri could've gotten stronger too, luffy's haki should be on par or stronger in g4 than g3. It makes no sense if luffy's durability is higher in g3 than in g4 when they are using the same haki.
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how could've katakuri gotten stronger? we know luffy did due to the feats themselves being presented. The feats disprove it alone, nobody said luffy's durability is higher in G3, we're talking about straight up attack potency, which is where gear third scales above snakeman.

A non awakened katakuri's mochi hurts snakeman, when they clash evenly.

An awakened katakuri's mochi, an even bigger version of that attack, matches gear third evenly in R2.

This just shows that Gear third is a bigger AP amp than gear fourth snakeman, nobody was referring to durability here.

G4th Boundman > G3rd > G4th Snakeman
 
StrawHatArslan said:
Snakeman would scale to 3.9 GT correct? off of kata's normal mochi mochi
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Kata used his mochi powers offensively like twice during the snakeman fight and both did insane damage that Snakeman wasn't able to overcome, so no Snakeman shouldn't scale there.

Snakeman has feats of matching Base kat who's 2 Gigatons so it should scale there.
 
Eminiteable said:
Kata used his mochi powers offensively like twice during the snakeman fight and both did insane damage that Snakeman wasn't able to overcome, so no Snakeman shouldn't scale there.

Snakeman has feats of matching Base kat who's 2 Gigatons so it should scale there.
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Okay that’s fine to me
 
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