I don't know how to tell you this, except that SBG is NOT a thing. There is no mention of it in the canon and we have already gotten rid of it back in 2015-16. This is the year 2021. I can't believe people are still talking about SBG. Anyway, I suggest that you show the evidence from the anime directly rather than linking to a site moderated by fans. If you are making a claim, it's your responsibility to back it up directly. Not mine to look through a fan site and search for it. Even so, what you are referring to is a promotional poster that calls SSR Black's version of Super Saiyan. Which is not enough to assume that the multiplier is exactly the same when being Black's own version provides it a different color than a normal version of SSJ. Could be because Black is god, which is more reason to say that the form is different than normal, since it is Black's own different version of a pre-existing form. Not to mention no such statement exists in the anime and the boost it gives is portrayed miniscule in the anime. Black could easily smirk and fight SSB Vegeta in base and goes SSR and SSB Goku and Trunks were still able to hold their own.
Okay. In the anime after the BoG arc when training with whis inside his staff, Goku and Vegeta learn to extremely precise ki control to be able to move inside that dimension, and vegeta say that it's the secret to divine energy, that is them using the saiyan beyond god form, they don't gain divine energy but are able to sense it and gain access to the power of SSG.
While training in this form they discover that this form is the path that will lead them to unlock SSB. Also this form is mentioned by
toriyama in this interview stating that Goku has mastered the power of SSG and no longer needs to transform to use it's power which is the exact description of SBG.
Now we know that transforming into a SSJ while in SBG makes you a SSB. In black's case in the manga, this form is black's variant of SSB, in the anime, blacks natural god ki allows him to use the SBG form (but dudes can still sense him so it proves that he was in SGB) so upon transforming into a SSJ in Goku's body he turns into a SSB/SSR which is why it's described as black's version of SSJ in the anime,
this promotional poster also supports it. This all proves that black's SSR is a 50x multiplier in the anime. Nobody was able to beat black he wooped everyone until vegeta beat his ass post training.
Zamasu holding back is an unfounded excuse. Of course Zamasu was a bit stronger and both Saiyans had to completely use their powers to hurt him, so they had no other choice but to fuse. But as I already stated, the gap isn't that big. And yes, SSB Vegito was portrayed around the same ballpark as SSB Goku lmao. That is the inconsistency I have been pointing out from the start, given how Zamasu was harmed by SSB Goku, SSB Vegeta and Ikari Trunks, yet SSB Vegito who is supposed to be thousands of times stronger than them was equal to Zamasu.
That's not true, zamasu was clearly holding back, another guy already made soem great points, zamasu clearly beat everyone up, Goku only pushed back his attack because zamasu was being arrogant and holding back, and was damaged by his own attack and the kamehameha exploding on top of him and guess what, he was still fine, and the goku caught him off guard and zamasu still ended up grabing and crushing his leg, then Goku cought him off guard again with kaioken and kicked him and zamasu was fine again, then he powered up further. Zamasu was clearly far more powerful than anyone by a lot and examples like trunks harming him are clear outliers, that trunks would scale below SSR black yet you use this shit as evidence to downplay zamasu, and they even said that their only chance at winning was fusion, it's far more consistent to scale base vegito above SSBk10 Goku than it is to scale SSB vegito to SSB Goku wtf I can't believe I have to say this.
This is not extraordinary proof. This is just abuse of multipliers. It's called using the multipliers to exaggerate ratings when nothing in the show comes close to that level feat-wise. Even going to sextillions from quadrillions without showing anything else is a MASSIVE highball. MASSIVE. But it's accepted because I and other people have been lenient.
No it is proof. Listen, all I'm doing here is taking these huge ass ACCEPTED multipliers and assigning them to this huge ass scaling chain from the beginning of the show to it's end, it's not multiplier abuse (wtf even is that), it's not my fault the characters literally get this fast. Dudes out here making the argument that going from quadrillions to nonillions doesn't make sense, that is not my fault, I'm not exaggerating this scaling chain or the multipliers, the only difference between this scale and ryu's is that I added a few things he missed out in the scale, it's still the same thing, but for some reason you and others think it doesn't make sense if someone goes from quadillions to nonillions even though there's nothing contradicting it, it's just the multipliers and the scaling chain being huge. Lmao is being "lenient" another way of saying that you're downplaying? I'm logically low balling here because I'm not taking into account every single unknown power increase which super is riddled with.
No.
Even SSJRyu1's proposed Gogeta scaling doesn't get this far. Maybe we should wait until that thread happens.
Why not? He himself agreed with this, the reason this is higher is because he didn't use some stuff like SSR and Vegito blue on his scale but I'm using it here.
