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4-D Soul Hax

This thread sure did age now that higher-dimensional hax are becoming range.
 
is affecting all souls within a space time continuum still uncountably infnite soul manip if the hax revision thread passes?
No clue. I think someone asked on the thread but I don't remember the answer.
 
i dont follow the discussion. So 4D range hax is basically just "range" now ?
 
i dont follow the discussion. So 4D range hax is basically just "range" now ?
Yeah. Affecting a higher plane of existence that views lower ones in a fictional manner or something equivalent to that is smurf hax.

Affecting geometrically higher dimensional beings and structures however, will just be range. With exception to something like Existence Erasure.
 
There maybe some other advantages hidden in this 4D potency smurf downgrade to range.
For example, such haxxes will allow you kill someone you affect in past, present and future.
So say someone applies 4D soul hax on me, I will die when I was a baby, toddler, kid, teen, adult and Grandpa simultaneously.
🤣🤣
Imagine if you have resistances to soul hax in present, but not in the past when you were baby. Causality will ensure you die out entirely when you get affected 4D range hax.
 
So basically 4-D hax will no longer be auto superior to 3-D? Unless I misread that.
Basically yeah. Mind-haxxing a 6 dimensional duck will just he range. That said, mind-haxxing a duck existing on a higher plane of existence to you will still be smurf.
 
Wait im sorta confused. What would be the difference between them?
One is a qualitative leap while the other is just a larger size. Even though they have the same attack potency their natures are fundamentally different.
 
One is a qualitative leap while the other is just a larger size. Even though they have the same attack potency their natures are fundamentally different.
So for example

Mindhaxing someone who embodies a 4-D realm is just range

But

Mindhaxing someone that lives in the 4-D realm will be considered the smurf hax?
 
So for example

Mindhaxing someone who embodies a 4-D realm is just range

But

Mindhaxing someone that lives in the 4-D realm will be considered the smurf hax?
Not quite. How do I put this?

If I mind-hax a being that's infinitely large across 5 spatial dimensions, I have Low 1-C range with said hax.

If I mind-hax a being that views an infinite multiverse as fiction then I have Low 1-C smurf hax.

The former is just a really big dude while the latter is qualitatively superior to lesser beings.
 
Not quite. How do I put this?

If I mind-hax a being that's infinitely large across 5 spatial dimensions, I have Low 1-C range with said hax.

If I mind-hax a being that views an infinite multiverse as fiction then I have Low 1-C smurf hax.

The former is just a really big dude while the latter is qualitatively superior to lesser beings.
Hmm...I think I understand? Its just a bit confusing to understand the difference is all and what will actually be effected should this hax revision pass.
 
Basically yeah. Mind-haxxing a 6 dimensional duck will just he range. That said, mind-haxxing a duck existing on a higher plane of existence to you will still be smurf.
if X mind hax Y which exist in 5-D plane of existence , then it would be smurf hax ?
 
if X mind hax Y which exist in 5-D plane of existence , then it would be smurf hax ?
What do you mean by this? Do you mean a plane that transcends space-time in a reality-fiction manner or a being that's 5 dimensional in size? Those are 2 different things
 
@Planck69
So if i get it right affecting a character that is fused with 4D space would just be range
But affecting a Low 2-C character that is fused with 4D space would be smurf?
Im asking this for confirmation
 
@Zencha9

Pretty sure the revision that supports this still hasn't gone through.
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@Planck69
So if i get it right affecting a character that is fused with 4D space would just be range
But affecting a Low 2-C character that is fused with 4D space would be smurf?
Im asking this for confirmation
Both would be range. Affecting a being that existing on a higher level of existence in comparison to 3 dimensional beings, in a reality-fiction manner, would be smurf.

Basically, with one or two exceptions, anything involving haxxing an "X-dimensional being" is range if it's strictly talking about spatial and temporal dimensions.
 
That's only the case if it's not transcendental dimensions, AKA the type that isn't accepted by our tiering system.
 
What is the best way to describe "Affecting a being that existing on a higher level of existence in comparison to 3 dimensional beings, in a reality-fiction manner". ?
 
That's only the case if it's not transcendental dimensions, AKA the type that isn't accepted by our tiering system.
How did you get that from the thread? I even brought up an example based on the dimensions we accept on the wiki and DontTalkDT's response was that it would only be range.
 
I know I was just giving examples
is there anyway to identify this kind of feat with accurate context ? or perhaps said verse must blatantly stated "4-D characters view 3-D as fiction, in the same way that we, Real Life people (3-D) see fiction characters as 2-D" ?
 
is there anyway to identify this kind of feat with accurate context ? or perhaps said verse must blatantly stated "4-D characters view 3-D as fiction, in the same way that we, Real Life people (3-D) see fiction characters as 2-D" ?
Yeah there has ways, the series usually shows it, like Umineko and DC that shows blatant examples of reality fiction, but stating is also common ig
 
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