The one above all

[StoneKillerz12]

there is no character in marvel that is high 1-A let alone tier 0

While that is true, I think that The One Above All could potentially be upgraded to High 1-A in the future if more stories come out of him showing more of his power.

 

[Garchomp777]

I would like to understand though, what makes The Presence High 1-A but not TOAA?

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

 

[StoneKillerz12]

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

Ah, ok. I think they should add a High 1-A+ Tier to the Tiering System sometime, but I don't see how that would fit into the Tiering System.

 

[Planck69]

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

No, it's not "far beyond Tier 0" over here. In fact, even High 1-A has been contested for him recently.

Ah, ok. I think they should add a High 1-A+ Tier to the Tiering System sometime, but I don't see how that would fit into the Tiering System.

Why should they do that? It serves no purporse. And regarding TOAA, he wasn't retconned but the Tiering System got updated. Now being "omnipotent" isn't even grounds for Low 2-C. Seeing as his best feat is viewing 1-As as fiction, it's just higher into 1-A.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I heard that the marvel and DC god tiers are gonna be downgraded in the future. Is it true?

 

[Planck69]

Marvel might remain the same I think. DC might go down to 1-A though, albeit far higher than Marvel still. This is just what I heard and could gather.

 

[Michaeldem17]

I don't think TOAA will ever get upgraded for baseline 1A

 

[Alphaapexnep00]

Toaa is 3/4 levels above baseline. I think mostly 3.

 

[TheDivineHost]

According to the official marvel guidebook, in fact TOAA has omniscience.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

I am not even sure why Above All Others is considered a retcon or an avatar.

 

[Planck69]

They're virtually the same tier now even.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

ToAA is 1A while Above All Others is Likely 1A

 

[Deleted member 2530]

The profile says that "ToAA is treated as Author Stand in who sees the verse as Fiction" while "AAO is threatened by Regulators and instability of the Multiverse." But when Thanos absorbs AAO he becomes all things including the supposed readers who was reading the entire series as comic book. So, I don't really see any difference between them at all.

 

[Garchomp777]

Nowhere in the entire comic was it even stated to be an avatar. There's characters who are writer level in Marvel comics. Even oblivion would erase the writers and readers


AAO is TOAA he was literally referred to as TLTs master, someone needs to go make a CRT

 

[StoneKillerz12]

Nowhere in the entire comic was it even stated to be an avatar. There's characters who are writer level in Marvel comics. Even oblivion would erase the writers and readers


AAO is TOAA he was literally referred to as TLTs master, someone needs to go make a CRT

Agreed. That is pure speculation and shouldn't be counted towards his Tiering, which Omniversal Battlefield used to bring him back to 0.