The one above all

[IntangibleForceAC]

Okay so may I know how the one above all is not tier 0 unless you count above all others and the one above all as the same being then its understandable but uh if you don’t there is no reason for the one above all not to be tier 0 also the one above all should be omniscient

The One Above All

1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions The One Above All (Also referred to as Above All Others) is the supreme being of Marvel Comics, as well as the superior of the cosmic judge known as The Living Tribunal. Having very few mentions and even fewer appearances, The One Above All...

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[Emirp sumitpo]

Because he doesn't meet the requirements for Tier 0? Being stated to be Omnipotent is not enough for Tier 0

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Omnipotence isn’t a thing in fiction anymore besides he is the representation of writer of marvel comics which means he is a author author is already above omnipotence

 

[Zencha9]

there is no character in marvel that is high 1-A let alone tier 0

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Explain how the presence from dc could be high 1-A

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Omnipotence isn’t a thing in fiction anymore besides he is the representation of writer of marvel comics which means he is a author author is already above omnipotence

You literally just said omnipotence isn't a thing yet then you say TOAA is above omnipotence?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Explain how the presence could be high 1-A then

What has he got to do with this?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Marvel’s infinity is bigger then dc’s

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can you tell us why?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Marvel has infinite and beyond infinite dimensions while dc has maybe a couple I could be wrong

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Scans?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

What are scans exactly

 

[Zencha9]

Marvel has infinite and beyond infinite dimensions while dc has maybe a couple I could be wrong

then make a crt

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What are scans exactly

Evidence, show images where such things are stated.

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Cannot find any asoff now lol

 

[Zencha9]

lmao

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Don’t even know how to find such images because i get completely different results then what I actually search for

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Then where are you getting your claims?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

https://youtube.com/c/DanCo

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

You're linking his channel, that doesn't provide any evidence

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

He said in a video that marvel as a whole is bigger then dc

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

His words aren't fact tho.

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Yeah uh this can probably get closed then i kinda believed what he said

 

[Thelastmlg]

Both marvel and DC have infinite and beyond dimensions, idk what he said but he is wrong if he claimed otherwise, DC just has even more 1-A stuff.

Also you don't upgrade a character by comparing it to a different verse, if the verze is wrong, they get downgrade, the character doesn't get upgraded.

Beyond omnipotence/fiction isn't a thing, see the reality-fiction interaction page.

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Bruh the presence being above the one above all doesn't make any sense

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Why? Both are from 2 seperate cosmologies??

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

I mean both structures are same in terms of size and dimensionality

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What makes you say that?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

It has been said everywhere on the internet

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

No, it isn't. Do you have scans to prove your point?

 

[IntangibleForceAC]

Why is dc bigger then?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

You can read the profiles on why?

 

[YuriAkuto]

Current profiles actually suck at explaining this.

 

[Garchomp777]

All of the marvel and DC profiles high 1-B and above here have extremely horrible explanation and understanding on cosmology, I would reccomend you just read the comics yourself and find out the truth

 

[StoneKillerz12]

The One Above All before the retcon in my opinion is Tier 0. I can understand why he was downgraded to 1-A, though.

 

[Garchomp777]

The One Above All before the retcon in my opinion is Tier 0. I can understand why he was downgraded to 1-A, though.

What retcon

 

[StoneKillerz12]

Also, Marvel is nowhere near as big as DC. DanCo is known to be biased towards Marvel in most of his videos.

 

[StoneKillerz12]

What retcon

Infinity Conflict.

 

[Garchomp777]

Infinity Conflict.

Thats not a retcon, he was never omnipotent or the strongest being ever

 

[StoneKillerz12]

I would like to understand though, what makes The Presence High 1-A but not TOAA?

 

[StoneKillerz12]

there is no character in marvel that is high 1-A let alone tier 0

While that is true, I think that The One Above All could potentially be upgraded to High 1-A in the future if more stories come out of him showing more of his power.

 

[Garchomp777]

I would like to understand though, what makes The Presence High 1-A but not TOAA?

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

 

[StoneKillerz12]

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

Ah, ok. I think they should add a High 1-A+ Tier to the Tiering System sometime, but I don't see how that would fit into the Tiering System.

 

[Planck69]

TOAA doesn't have any 1-A feats, The Presence scales above the source which is a non dual being in comparison to already 1-A realms like the monitor sphere. So its like an outerversal transcendence over an already outerversal place. Which is actually far beyond tier 0 for this wiki standards

No, it's not "far beyond Tier 0" over here. In fact, even High 1-A has been contested for him recently.

Ah, ok. I think they should add a High 1-A+ Tier to the Tiering System sometime, but I don't see how that would fit into the Tiering System.

Why should they do that? It serves no purporse. And regarding TOAA, he wasn't retconned but the Tiering System got updated. Now being "omnipotent" isn't even grounds for Low 2-C. Seeing as his best feat is viewing 1-As as fiction, it's just higher into 1-A.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I heard that the marvel and DC god tiers are gonna be downgraded in the future. Is it true?

 

[Planck69]

Marvel might remain the same I think. DC might go down to 1-A though, albeit far higher than Marvel still. This is just what I heard and could gather.