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Truth Seeking Balls Electric Boogaloo

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KingTempest said:
Please note.
This is not a claim.
This is something approved already via a content revision thread, just like this one.
In late November of 2020, I created a CRT with 8 people agreeing to soul manip and 2 people disagreeing, who changed later on.
Basically, no one disagreed. It was unanimous.

You can't "debunk" my claim in this thread. You would need to make your own thread on it, since now, it's stuck in stone that chakra = souls in Naruto.
Basically, don't debunk me, make a CRT.
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fine I'll debunk u since you asked lmao
 
Reio35 said:
Lmao you didn't debunk any of my claims
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Trying my best trying not to get a warning
Reio35 said:
Dan didn't ask him to bring down the barrier so he can leave. It was cuz he wasn't a threat anymore. Plz read the chapter.
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So why didn't he use the jutsu to turn into a soul prior to Itachi releasing the jutsu?
Reio35 said:
Like i showed on my first argument you see souls ascending out of sealing justu.
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Yes. The souls ascended out of the sealing jutsu meant to seal physical things. The chakra clearly went non-physical and escaped the body.
Or where did all the chakra inside the reanimations go hmm? Why does the specific chakra types stay with the reanimation
Reio35 said:
Itachi's hand bypassed sasuke and his charka networks.
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When the hell.
Reio35 said:
Tailed beast being spirits is false or an outliar as they are affected by physical attacks.
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I quote myself.
"Kurama is a bijuu. The bijuu are purely chakra. Well, Bijuu have bled on occassions, so we can safely say that Hagoromo gave them physical form."
Reio35 said:
As showed before souls and naruto can't be touched physically.
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Reio35 said:
If chakra affected souls edo tensie should have died from the biju bombs.
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No, cause they have regeneration.
Reio35 said:
Tso is a considered physical object yet it is made from charka. That means chakra is considered physical. Guy bending the space around tso means tso can't destroy space itself.
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You know it can be selectively intangible right...
 
KingTempest said:
You know it can be selectively intangible right...
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I think the TSO are considered Physical Chakra Constructs (That can be Solid or Fluid) given how Minato describes them?
"Clear Sensation If They Make Contact With You" "So Since They Physically Exist, And Can Be Traced And Followed"
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
I think the TSO are considered Physical Chakra Constructs (That can be Solid or Fluid) given how Minato describes them?
"Clear Sensation If They Make Contact With You" "So Since They Physically Exist, And Can Be Traced And Followed"
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Yeah, the TSBs aren't intangible, but pure chakra is.
 
Anyway, we really need to stop discussing the Soul-related stuff because it literally has nothing to do with this thread.
 
To circle back, I'd say put the Space-Time manipulation as Possibly, and the changes are fine to go through. That's my view on it.
 
Damage3245 said:
To circle back, I'd say put the Space-Time manipulation as Possibly, and the changes are fine to go through. That's my view on it.
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Btw, what do you think about the last note about Kaguya's Fusionism? I know it's minor, but I just wanted to make sure you're okay with it as well.

Also, I won't have access to my PC until much later tonight or tomorrow, so I won't be able to make any changes to the profiles until then (assuming we come to a conclusion before that)
 
Btw, what do you think about the last note about Kaguya's Fusionism? I know it's minor, but I just wanted to make sure you're okay with it as well.
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Her fusionism is a bit weird since she just hides in a portal, but also has some form of control over the landscape of her dimensions. I think it should be fine to add so long as it is specified what kind of fusionism it is.
 
Damage3245 said:
Her fusionism is a bit weird since she just hides in a portal, but also has some form of control over the landscape of her dimensions. I think it should be fine to add so long as it is specified what kind of fusionism it is.
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Yeah, I was thinking something along the lines of:

Fusionism (Can merge with her dimension's environment, which allows her to completely control the terrain in order to attack her foes)

Does that seem suitable?
 
Omimi said:
so everything is accepted?
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Almost. I'll just make my final proposal for the ability justifications when I get access to a PC today, and once I get the final confirmation, I'll apply them to the profiles.
 
Hey! You have forgot it one more thing, what about Kaguya? You change Kaguya's regenartion because she can resistance/regenartion from Existence Erasure and Void manipulation or nah?
 
NaruRiasUzumaki said:
Hey! You have forgot it one more thing, what about Kaguya? You change Kaguya's regenartion because she can resistance/regenartion from Existence Erasure and Void manipulation or nah?
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No, because she's resistant to the hax, so her regeneration would be the same I believe.
 
Sorry it took me so long fellas. I've been really busy irl these past few days, but here is my final proposal for the abilities that should be added to all TSB users' profiles.

For most TSB users:

Reality Warping (The TSBs are partially comprised of Yin-Yang Release, which is capable of altering reality in a variety of ways) which allows for: Existence Erasure (Can erase Ninjutsu, people, space-time, and matter), Transmutation (The TSB can be altered into different states of matter, energy attacks, Chakra Receivers, and more), Shapeshifting and Size Manipulation (The TSB can be morphed into a variety of shapes and sizes) , Possibly Space-Time Manipulation (Potentially capable of creating new Time-Spaces, because the regular TSBs were stated to be the same as Kaguya's ETSB besides their size), and Power Nullification (The Truth Seeking Balls negate and erase all Ninjutsu they come into contact with, which includes energy and elemental based attacks, Edo Tensei, and Dust Release to name a few, with the exception of those imbued with natural energy)



For Kaguya:

Reality Warping (The TSBs are partially comprised of Yin-Yang Release, which is capable of altering reality in a variety of ways) which allows for: Existence Erasure (Can erase Ninjutsu, people, space-time, and matter), Transmutation (The TSB can be altered into different states of matter, energy attacks, Chakra Receivers, and more), Shapeshifting and Size Manipulation (The TSB can be morphed into a variety of shapes and sizes), Space-Time Manipulation (Capable of creating new Time-Spaces), and Power Nullification (The Truth Seeking Balls negate and erase all Ninjutsu they come into, which includes energy and elemental based attacks, Edo Tensei, and Dust Release to name a few, with the exception of those imbued with natural energy)


Additionally, as we've discussed above, Kaguya also needs Fusionism.

Fusionism (Can merge with her dimension's environment, which allows her to completely control the terrain in order to attack her foes)

I also noticed recently that she doesn't have Deconstruction with the All-Killing Ash Bone, so I also propose she gets:

Deconstruction (Can disintegrate and turn whatever she pierces to dust with All-killing Ash Bone)



Finally, I think it's time to discuss changing the characters' Resistances a bit (If everything above is accepted ofc).
Basically, the characters' Matter Manipulation Resistance should be removed and changed to "Resistance to Existence Erasure". The "Limited" should also be removed from their Power Nullification Resistance as well to reflect its removal from the Power Null they resist in the first place.

That's about it really, if all of this gets accepted and applied we'll be all done here.

As for the profiles that need to be unlocked:

  • Naruto Uzumaki (Part II and New Era)
  • Sasuke Uchiha (Part II and New Era)
  • Madara Uchiha
  • Obito Uchiha
  • Kaguya Otsutsuki
  • Hagoromo Otsutsuki
  • Hamura Otsutsuki
  • Toneri Otsutsuki
  • Kakashi Hatake
  • Asura Otsutsuki
 
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Transmutation, Size Manipulation, and Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of shapes, sizes, states of matter and more)
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It should be "Transmutation (Can be altered into different states of matter/energy), Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of different shapes and sizes).
Transmutation part of TSB is when they transform it into GWRE, SWRE, TBBRS, Chakra Receivers, a cage etc.
Shapeshifting is how they transform it into different shape, like a staff, giant hands, etc.
In Transmutation case, TSB is no longer TSB, it transmuted.
In Shapeshifting case it's still a TSB that only changes shape and size.

I added "energy" because of GWRE and TBBRS.
 
Slacjow said:
It should be "Transmutation (Can be altered into different states of matter/energy), Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of different shapes and sizes).
Transmutation part of TSB is when they transform it into GWRE, SWRE, TBBRS, Chakra Receivers, a cage etc.
Shapeshifting is how they transform it into different shape, like a staff, giant hands, etc.
In Transmutation case, TSB is no longer TSB, it transmuted.
In Shapeshifting case it's still a TSB that only changes shape and size.

I added "energy" because of GWRE and TBBRS.
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That's a good point. I'll edit it shortly.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Sorry it took me so long fellas. I've been really busy irl these past few days, but here is my final proposal for the abilities that should be added to all TSB users' profiles.

For most TSB users:

Reality Warping (The TSBs are partially comprised of Yin-Yang Release, which is capable of altering reality in a variety of ways) which allows for: Existence Erasure (Can erase Ninjutsu, people, space-time, and matter), Transmutation, Size Manipulation, and Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of shapes, sizes, states of matter and more), Possibly Space-Time Manipulation (Capable of creating new Time-Spaces), and Power Nullification (The Truth Seeking Balls negate and erase all Ninjutsu they come into contact with, which includes energy and elemental based attacks, Edo Tensei, and Dust Release to name a few, with the exception of those imbued with natural energy)



For Kaguya:

Reality Warping (The TSBs are partially comprised of Yin-Yang Release, which is capable of altering reality in a variety of ways) which allows for: Existence Erasure (Can erase Ninjutsu, people, space-time, and matter), Transmutation, Size Manipulation, and Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of shapes, sizes, states of matter and more), Space-Time Manipulation (Capable of creating new Time-Spaces), and Power Nullification (The Truth Seeking Balls negate and erase all Ninjutsu they come into, which includes energy and elemental based attacks, Edo Tensei, and Dust Release to name a few, with the exception of those imbued with natural energy)


Additionally, as we've discussed above, Kaguya also needs Fusionism.

Fusionism (Can merge with her dimension's environment, which allows her to completely control the terrain in order to attack her foes)

I also noticed recently that she doesn't have Deconstruction with the All-Killing Ash Bone, so I also propose she gets:

Deconstruction (Can disintegrate and turn whatever she pierces to dust with All-killing Ash Bone)



Finally, I think it's time to discuss changing the characters' Resistances a bit (If everything above is accepted ofc).
Basically, the characters' Matter Manipulation Resistance should be removed and changed to "Resistance to Existence Erasure". The "Limited" should also be removed from their Power Nullification Resistance as well to reflect its removal from the Power Null they resist in the first place.

That's about it really, if all of this gets accepted and applied we'll be all done here.

As for the profiles that need to be unlocked:

  • Naruto Uzumaki (Part II and New Era)
  • Sasuke Uchiha (Part II and New Era)
  • Madara Uchiha
  • Obito Uchiha
  • Kaguya Otsutsuki
  • Hagoromo Otsutsuki
  • Hamura Otsutsuki
  • Toneri Otsutsuki
  • Kakashi Hatake
  • Asura Otsutsuki
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This? This right here.

This is agreed with. By me.
 
Slacjow said:
It should be "Transmutation (Can be altered into different states of matter/energy), Shapeshifting (The TSB can be altered into a variety of different shapes and sizes).
Transmutation part of TSB is when they transform it into GWRE, SWRE, TBBRS, Chakra Receivers, a cage etc.
Shapeshifting is how they transform it into different shape, like a staff, giant hands, etc.
In Transmutation case, TSB is no longer TSB, it transmuted.
In Shapeshifting case it's still a TSB that only changes shape and size.

I added "energy" because of GWRE and TBBRS.
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I made my edits.
 
BTW, this is extremely minor and I was somewhat iffy on it (which is why I didn't include it in the OP), but how would you guys feel about Limited Telekinesis for TSB users? It'll probably look something like this:

Limited Telekinesis (The TSB can be freely controlled telekinetically, up to a 70 meter radius)

Again, it's not super relevant. I just saw other characters get Limited TK for similar applications, so I wanted to ask for your opinions.
 
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