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Pre crisis supes justif removal

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No, it really doesn’t. Do you know how big the difference between 2-C and countless 2-B is?
 
When he exerts himself performing a feats countless times lower than another, it's an outlier.
 
Again, you don't just call a feat an outlier cause it's higher unless it contradicts something.
Where in my comment did I say it was an outlier? Literally where did you get that from? I’m just questioning if you understand how big the difference in tiers is.
 
How the hell does a cosmology have only 1001 futures for all possibilities?

Also scans pls so we can add to the page.
 
Not how it works, all possible futures is countless without context, that's the case with pretty much every verse with possibility based multiverses.
 
Here, here and here. Hoping that this is 1) relevant here since timelines and dimensions are different in DC, at least in Post-Crisis and onwards and 2) was before the Jaxon feat.

Edit: This is probably irrelevant since dimensions and timelines ain't the same thing as said in one of the previous threads. Well at least it serves as supporting evidence for AM being 2-A if nothing else.
 
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I think you misunderstood, I was just saying that Maldoor's 2-C feat could be casual and thus not an anti-feat and that he could thus scale to Superman rather than the other way around, that's all really.
 
Okay. Anyway, here are working links to the above scans:




The last one (at least) is from a story years after the Jaxon feat though.

Regardless, if it had been established that there were infinite parallell universes before Superman clashed with Jaxon, it would be a 2-A feat and likely more of an outlier.
 
Are those scans part of what we currently scale Doctor Fate from? They seem vague and unproven to me.
 
Yeah, they’re the main justification for 2-B atm I think.

Maybe call Firestorm here so he can maybe elaborate and check which years the infinite-sized multiverse scans I brought up are from.
 
Yeah, DC is plagued with a lot of problems as far as higher tier justifications go. I don't even know why people are 1-A....
 
My knowledge on DC isn't quite up to the task of supplying scans and what not. I could at help in interpretation of feats and tiers since I'm good at that at least.
 
Yeah, DC is plagued with a lot of problems as far as higher tier justifications go. I don't even know why people are 1-A....
Agreed. I personally think that the DC Comics multiversal cosmology should only reach 1-B. Also, if I can downgrade Tenchi Muyo from tier 0 to 1-B for the sake of accuracy, the DC fans should preferably aim for similar priorities.

However, that is off-topic. Let's return to the main discussion please.
 
Agreed. I personally think that the DC Comics multiversal cosmology should only reach 1-B. Also, if I can downgrade Tenchi Muyo from tier 0 to 1-B for the sake of accuracy, the DC fans should preferably aim for similar priorities.

However, that is off-topic. Let's return to the main discussion please.
Why don't you change it to 1-B?
 
I mean, would be nice if you targetted not him but his arguments
I'm referring to how he made an inflammatory "downgrade" thread very recently where he outright implies spite towards DC and Marvel.

Like really, what argument is there for me target anyw?ay
 
I have a strange relationship to Marvel and DC. I love the old-school Jim Shooter and Post-Crisis eras, but dislike the current political propaganda stuff.

However, that is unrelated to that I find the statistics for DC and Marvel cosmic entities partially very unreliable.

I also still love One Piece, Dragon Ball, Tenchi Muyo, and Phineas & Ferb, among others, but am trying to be neutral and to strive for reliability in my handling of them.

Anyway, returning to the main topic, is some experienced member willing to update the Pre-Crisis Superman page, and would he still qualify for 2-C if we remove the Jaxon feat?
 
I have a strange relationship to Marvel and DC. I love the old-school Jim Shooter and Post-Crisis eras, but dislike the current political propaganda stuff.

However, that is unrelated to that I find the statistics for DC and Marvel cosmic entities partially very unreliable.

I also still love One Piece, Dragon Ball, Tenchi Muyo, and Phineas & Ferb, among others, but am trying to be neutral and to strive for reliability in my handling of them.

Anyway, returning to the main topic, is some experienced member willing to update the Pre-Crisis Superman page, and would he still qualify for 2-C if we remove the Jaxon feat?
Political propaganda? I'm sorry, what? You mean how Putin appeared in Doomsday Clock?
 
Nope. I mean that the writers keep pushing politics into the stories in an extremely slanted/partisan/unbalanced manner, but it is best if we avoid any further discussion about that topic to avoid controversy.
 
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