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After many of the calcs done for this feat were considered "incorrect" base on the assumptions made in the past by other members. I’ve concluded that a new calculation which uses extremely correct and obviously consistent showings should be used because the alternative is having no calc at all.
We’re need the result of this calc to support multiple other calcs for the verse.
I recommend using lightning speed Ichigo to get the Soul King Palace distance, and before you agree or disagree, please give me the benefit of the doubt and read the entire thread before you made your decision. It has logical explanation behind it.
Ichigo's casual speed after his training in the final arc is faster than lighting speed, and his max speed which is needed for this calc is “unknown” to us so why don't we use the speed of lightning for the calc as a low-ball? That is his casual speed.
Now how did I reached the conclusion that Ichigo casual speed or in this case his maximum speed is lightning speed?
Ichigo's minimum shown speed on panel is casually blitzing point blank lightning after he arrived from the palace distance we are trying to calc. Ichigo's speed cannot have changed.
Candice lightning is summoned from the clouds.
The sequel light novels confirmed that even when the lightning girl Candice's power got weaker (Yhwach took her Quincy Vollstandig a transformation that boost their stats to match the Shinigami Bankai multiplier of 5-10x) still surpassed the power of any lightning in nature.
And it doesn't seem to be about the power, but just in general. Clouds and sounds of thunder are referenced multiple times. (There are also other feats/explanation for other character's abilities like Meninas and Giriko.) It is intentional given by the narrator to us.
In this other scenario, Tokinada a Captain who is weaker than Ichigo, reacted to the speed of lighting from a fodder Ninja from the second division who are not even captain level. In the novel Tokinada is weaker and slower than characters who fought Kenpachi who himself got blitzed by Candice in the manga. Candice transformed into lighting proving that her lightning is faster than normal lighting as the novel explain.
There’s no way Ichigo isn’t at least lighting speed casually as proven in the scans. Is no outlier either as Ichigo just got out from training and is heading to the battlefield to show his new powers, and is fair to use.
I'll use 443842 m/s the average lightning speed accepted in VS Battle Wiki, based on the feat above. A low-ball.
"The speed of lightning can vary mostly in the range of 1.0-14×105 m/s. For the purpose of calculating speed feats we use the average lightning speed of 4.4×105 m/s (Mach 1294), which is suggested by this study. Similar studies have found average speeds within the same order of magnitude, albeit lower."
And before you say, “he rested” Ichigo training for a week in a treadmill designed to drain his spiritual energy and trained for months without rest.
Here is the accepted stamina thread for Ichigo's character.
Now that that is out of the way let’s make the calc.
CALC
Timeframe:
Normally the distance would take a week:
604800 seconds, but... Ichigo going at full speed arrived earlier than expected by those who trained him.
He even crashed on arrival.
From the Clock Tower in Seireitei, and Ichibei's statement.
The Quincy take over Seireitei began at 5 pm the first day.
Ichigo went down after 3 hours at 8 pm
Ichigo arrived at 5:15 am the next day.
That's 9 hours and 15 minutes or 33,300 seconds.
distance = speed x time
distance = 14779900000 miles
Important note:
The distance isn't "realistic" is not a counter argument, because the distance is in between two different dimensions that can only be cross when the 72 barriers/doors that connected and open. Ichigo broke them all on his way down.
The calcs that depend on it are:
After many of the calcs done for this feat were considered "incorrect" base on the assumptions made in the past by other members. I’ve concluded that a new calculation which uses extremely correct and obviously consistent showings should be used because the alternative is having no calc at all.
We’re need the result of this calc to support multiple other calcs for the verse.
I recommend using lightning speed Ichigo to get the Soul King Palace distance, and before you agree or disagree, please give me the benefit of the doubt and read the entire thread before you made your decision. It has logical explanation behind it.
Ichigo's casual speed after his training in the final arc is faster than lighting speed, and his max speed which is needed for this calc is “unknown” to us so why don't we use the speed of lightning for the calc as a low-ball? That is his casual speed.
Now how did I reached the conclusion that Ichigo casual speed or in this case his maximum speed is lightning speed?
Ichigo's minimum shown speed on panel is casually blitzing point blank lightning after he arrived from the palace distance we are trying to calc. Ichigo's speed cannot have changed.
Candice lightning is summoned from the clouds.
The sequel light novels confirmed that even when the lightning girl Candice's power got weaker (Yhwach took her Quincy Vollstandig a transformation that boost their stats to match the Shinigami Bankai multiplier of 5-10x) still surpassed the power of any lightning in nature.
And it doesn't seem to be about the power, but just in general. Clouds and sounds of thunder are referenced multiple times. (There are also other feats/explanation for other character's abilities like Meninas and Giriko.) It is intentional given by the narrator to us.
In this other scenario, Tokinada a Captain who is weaker than Ichigo, reacted to the speed of lighting from a fodder Ninja from the second division who are not even captain level. In the novel Tokinada is weaker and slower than characters who fought Kenpachi who himself got blitzed by Candice in the manga. Candice transformed into lighting proving that her lightning is faster than normal lighting as the novel explain.
There’s no way Ichigo isn’t at least lighting speed casually as proven in the scans. Is no outlier either as Ichigo just got out from training and is heading to the battlefield to show his new powers, and is fair to use.
I'll use 443842 m/s the average lightning speed accepted in VS Battle Wiki, based on the feat above. A low-ball.
"The speed of lightning can vary mostly in the range of 1.0-14×105 m/s. For the purpose of calculating speed feats we use the average lightning speed of 4.4×105 m/s (Mach 1294), which is suggested by this study. Similar studies have found average speeds within the same order of magnitude, albeit lower."
And before you say, “he rested” Ichigo training for a week in a treadmill designed to drain his spiritual energy and trained for months without rest.
Here is the accepted stamina thread for Ichigo's character.
Now that that is out of the way let’s make the calc.
CALC
Timeframe:
Normally the distance would take a week:
604800 seconds, but... Ichigo going at full speed arrived earlier than expected by those who trained him.
He even crashed on arrival.
From the Clock Tower in Seireitei, and Ichibei's statement.
The Quincy take over Seireitei began at 5 pm the first day.
Ichigo went down after 3 hours at 8 pm
Ichigo arrived at 5:15 am the next day.
That's 9 hours and 15 minutes or 33,300 seconds.
distance = speed x time
distance = 14779900000 miles
Important note:
The distance isn't "realistic" is not a counter argument, because the distance is in between two different dimensions that can only be cross when the 72 barriers/doors that connected and open. Ichigo broke them all on his way down.
The calcs that depend on it are:
- Auswählen Speed – 0.19c (Relativistic)
- Liltotto dodging Auswählen – 0.16c (Relativistic)
- Yhwach’s Beam – 0.29c (Relativistic)
- Mimihagi’s Speed – 0.29c (Relativistic)
- Yhwach lifts the Seireitei - 8.09 Zettatons (Small Planet level)
- Yhwach (Via the Small Planet level calc)
- Mimihagi (Via its speed calc of travelling to the Soul King's palace)
- Liltotto Lamperd (Via her speed calc of dodging Yhwach's Auswahlen)
- Meninas McAllon (Via scaling to Liltotto)
- Giselle Gewelle (Via scaling to Liltotto)
- Cancide Catnipp (Via scaling to Liltotto)
- Bambietta Basterbine (Via scaling to Liltotto)
- Sajin Komamura (Via scaling to Bambietta)