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Rider vs Archer: Gilgamesh vs Eragon

Meosos

Meosos

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Eragon vs gilgamesh
Conditions

+ Speed is equalized

+ Eragon gets his entire Equipment (Brisingr, Aren, Eldunari, ...)

+ High 7-A versions, Full power Enuma Elish is restricted

+ they fight in a major city

+ win only by death

+ both are in character with the intent to kill

Erago: 1 (RoyGundam)

Gilgamesh: 5 (Reppuzan, TISSG7Redgrave, Gargoyle One, Aizenishere, ThisIsMySwagPack)

Inconclusive: 0
 
well i'm not sure on how eragon's powers work in application i need to know so yeah and well gil is cocky AF while eragon idk his character but i presume he isn't cocky
 
well i think gil has better versatility and regen negation will give eragon huge problems and mind manipulation is gonna have issues though SNI can give info just gil may choose to ignore
 
Eragon mindfucks IMO. There might be some problem with Gil's Resistance to Magic, but that's basically like wards from Inhertance-verse, so he will likely figure out a way to bypass it eventually. Eragon actually has more ways of killing Gil via his borderline reality warping style magic. Gil's regen is also not high
 
how strong is his mind manipulation cause gil couldn't be corrupt by all the world's evil even stated the grail needs 3 times the amount to even have an effect
 
I saw 'regen negation' mentioned. What exactly is regen negation going to do against a guy with no regen?
 
Saphira is going to get eviscerated by the Dragon Slaying weapons in Gil's treasury.

Eragon's magic doesn't seem to be useful enough to do anything meaningful against Gil, so voting Gil.
 
i guess overall i'll go for gil as he will play smart though he is arrogant his variety of weapons will give him the edge to allow eragon to stay out of range
 
@Roy

Eragon's Mind Manipulation doesn't exactly beat being able to resist having billions of curses filled with every sort of sin, depravity, and torture imaginable being dumped into your mind. Nor does it beat being covered in sludge that corrupts the body and soul of spiritual bodies and can literally melt away flesh on contact. Gilgamesh takes all of this with a smile while boasting that you'll need at least three times as many mind destroying curses to even have a chance at breaking him.

In addition, Eragon's magic pales in comparison to the spells in the Nasuverse, since magi worth their salt like Medea can easily lock down space, suck the life force from others, and obliterate mountains with their spells. Gil's Magic Resistance with his armor casually no-sells this.
 
Mind Manipulation wont do the trick, but that doesnt mean Eragon has no options left. Even if we assume that Eragons magic wont directly work on Gilgamesh (He actually has only magic resistance E, which is the lowest level and wears the armor only as spirit, not in human form or unlimited bladeworks) he can still use magic to do stuff like: attacking him with the elements or even use complex spells to do stuff like solidify the air or collapse the ground.

Furthermore: If Eragon closes the distance between them and gets into an actuall swordfight with Gilgamesh, he will win. And he should actually be able to do that: Enkido will be partially blocked by his wards and the effects will be greatly reduced because Eragon isnt a demigod, Gilgamesh wont use Ea because of his arrogance and basically every noble phantasm Gil fires at Eragon will either be blocked by his wards or Eragon just uses Letta to stop them all in the air.
 
@Meosos

Close combat isn't a death sentence for Gil. He can still intercept Eragon's attacks with the weapons, shields, and armor form his treasury as he did with Saber.

He wouldn't use Enkidu on Eragon since he's not divine, so that's moot.

Also, bull on the armor. He wears his armor against Saber because he acknowledges her. If he's coming at Eragon with the intent to kill and not fooling around, he's putting on the armor.

We're already restricting Gil to his High 7-A weapons, among them are numerous weapons that deal conceptual damage on top of ignoring durability.

If he's really bored with Eragon spamming Brisingr at him, he'll just pull out Merodach and swing it to obliterate Saphira and Eragon in one shot.

Also, what's Letta's best feat? I highly doubt that Eragon will be able to stop a barrage of incredibly ancient and powerful magic weaponry from all directions.
 
Facing Eragon in close combat wont kill Gil in the first seconds but if he cant get more distance he will lose like he did in his fight against Shirou (As Shirou said: he is a king, not a warrior).

And to avoid all the stuff Gilgamesh fires at him Eragon just has to say one word: Letta.
 
@Meosos

He wasn't taking Shirou seriously until Shirou cut off his arm.

Against Saber he was able to effortlessly intercept her attacks with his own weapons.

Again, what are Letta's best feats? If the weapons gets stopped in mid-air then Gil will pull out a thousand more and fire them. If those get stopped, he'll pull out a thousand more and fire those. If he finally gets tired of this he can just shoot a sword beam from one of his many treasured weapons.
 
People have this weird idea that Gilgamesh immediately loses if someone engages him in close combat. That only happened against Shirou due to Shirou being the almighty protagonist.

Against others, Gilgamesh has his little SNI to help him in combat even if it's melee.
 
Uhh,,, Full power Enuma Elish may restricted but Gil still actually has access to EA so if Eragon were to really like start pissing him off (assuming Merodach doesn't do the trick) he'd just do what he did in UBW minus his arm getting cut off this time.

Unless i'm missing something and EA is actually restricted by default of us only using HIGH 7-A weapons.


Eithe way though, I'm voting Gil for now,

Repps putting up a good argument and I too would like to know Letta's best feat/s
 
Gilgamesh is still in character, so he wont "waste" powerful noble phantasms on Eragon until it is too late.

Reppuzan made the Argument that Gil would be immune against most or Eragons spells that affect him directly, but he seems to have only magic resistace E.

As I said above, Eragon is clearly the better swordsman and if he can close the distance he will eventually kill Gilgamesh (but yes, not immediatly).

About letta, the spell simply means stop and that alone is one word. In combination with other words he can not only stop Gils noble phantasms, right at the portals but but also redirect them to Gilgamesh. Its best feat would be Galbatorix stopping Oromis and his dragon Gleadr "as long as he wants" from thousands of miles away in the air. But like any spell in the Inheritance verse, the spells have no real limits and what a magician can do is only limited by the amount of magic he has and his grammar.
 
Meosos said:
As I said above, Eragon is clearly the better swordsman and if he can close the distance he will eventually kill Gilgamesh (but yes, not immediatly).
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Buddy...

Wall Class striking strength isn't putting a dent in Tier 7 durability. And Eragon's magic doesn't amp him in that area. Neither do his Eldunari.
 
Waste? Gil sends the weapons back into his vault automatically after he shoots them. That's literally bs, while Gil always restrains SNI it's always active. When he saw Heracles he instantly knew of his abilities and name and then used appropriate weapons to take him down. Gil won't continue spamming weaksauce weapons long enough for Eragon to kill him. Gil uses his levitation noble phantasm or vimana before nuking him with magical warheads, space shattering weapons, conceptual weapons or with Merodach blasts.

Gil's magic resistance is above A rank with his armour on.

Gil kills him in CQC with the space shattering axe or Merodach.

If he redirects them back at Gil he just uses his noble phantasm to send them back into his vault before they hit him.
 
It may be from CCC but it's still a weapon in GOB. Doesn't really matter though since odds are he leans in favour of using Merodach in CQC anyways.
 
Actually it isn't Gil only uses Merodach in the Fate Route and as a projectile in Strange Fake IIRC. The other times he uses his Golden Axe is in GO and CCC so really he seems to prefer the Axe along with the Golden Weapon Arsenal.
 
Contents of GoB are the same, as stated above.

Merodach is his weapon for a casual party. He won't hesitate to use it, especially in combination with SNI.
 
Yeah Gilgamesh wins here. He doesn't need SNI to look at Eragon and Saphira and decide to pull out a barrage of dragon-slaying weapons. Eragon's magic isn't enough to get through his armor, which Gilgamesh is probably going to pull out if he's fighting a dragon.
 
Oh snap the plot thickens. Well regardless they are his CQC weapons of choice. He has experience with them. And they can give Eragon a bad time. And it's even worse if he finds that Eragon is "worthy"
 
A Prom stated, Dragons of Saphira's size and grandeur are top-tier beasts in the Nasuverse. Gilgamesh is more likely to get serious at the sight of her and will thus pull out the stops.

That said, even a casual, uncharged Ea blast will eviscerate Eragon and Saphira if they get remotely close to him.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Meosos said:
As I said above, Eragon is clearly the better swordsman and if he can close the distance he will eventually kill Gilgamesh (but yes, not immediatly).
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Buddy...
Wall Class striking strength isn't putting a dent in Tier 7 durability. And Eragon's magic doesn't amp him in that area. Neither do his Eldunari.
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Oh , what about Barst?
 
Barst isn't Eragon. The former was using one giant Eldunari for the specific purpose of amping himself physically. IIRC, Eragon doesn't do that. That's part of why it was such a shock that Barst was doing so to begin with.

Also, this thread is over four months old. Was there really any need for the necro?
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Barst isn't Eragon. The former was using one giant Eldunari fpr the specific purpose of amping himself physically. IIRC, Eragon doesn't do that. That's part of why it was such a shock that Barst was doing so to begin with.
Also, this thread is over four months old. Was there really any need for the necro?
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1.) This would be in character for Eragon. Firnen (Aryas Dragon) was also boosted by two Eldunari because he was too weak to lift three people, a baby and food and such stuff. So eragon wouldnt hestitate to amp himself physically with his Eldunari.

2.) i just wanted to debunk this claim. As for the rest of the debate, either Eragon wins or Gil stomps, although im kind of leaning towards Eragon.
 
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