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Can we get a profile for the rain in DBS

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Boros-fan

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Its clearly moving at speeds comparable to characters like SSB Goku, Android 17, and Mystic Gohan. This would make the rain many many many times FTL by scaling.
 
well considering we know for a fact that the lorentz factor doesn't exist in DBverse, we should just be able to do a simple kinetic energy calc for each single drop at those speed no?
 
Cropfist said:
Calc stacking and FTL KE is not valid.
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Its not valid in the real world because of lorentz transformation increasing mass until infinity. But that clearly doesn't happen in DBverse otherwise every character that was FTL would be capable of outputting attacks with infinite energy.
 
You can't do KE calcs for anything above Relativistic speed. It just doesn't work mathematically.
 
Is no one going to mention that the rain doing this is obviously just visual convenience?
 
The Everlasting said:
Is no one going to mention that the rain doing this is obviously just visual convenience?
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Wouldn't it be more conveint for the animators to just draw suspended non-moving rain drops? Clearly the animators wanted the rain to move for a reason.
 
So you are telling me that the scene they wanted to set was, Goku and co are slower than normal 20 m/s rain drops when fighting with their godtier transformations? That seems pretty dumb no?
 
Boros-fan said:
So you are telling me that the scene they wanted to set was, Goku and co are slower than normal 20 m/s rain drops when fighting with their godtier transformations?
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Yes
 
Mate this happens in practically every series ever. Battles in the rain are inherently dramatic and the speed of the raindrops is often ignored.

It's like saying falling debris in DBS is MFTL+ because its speed is noticeable in comparison to the characters.
 
Both Naruto and OPM had fight scenes take place during the rain, and both took the time to slow the raindrops in comparison with the characters in motion. Those are only two examples I can think of, but I'm sure there are many more, if not as many as there are counter examples.
 
Also if rain in DB is MFTL+ and you're trying to get KE from it, how is there any human structure still standing on Earth?
 
Clearly, the buildings can withstand an infinite amount of energy every second. It is just that their weaponry is more powerful than the rain.
 
The Everlasting said:
@Boros
...Are you really serious right now?
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Im simply applying the same rules to everything instead of picking and choosing, so yes.
 
There's no rule that applies to everything, m8. Case-by-case basis is a thing.

"Wildly superhuman" average humans in DB is absurd beyond compare.
 
Boros-fan said:
Both Naruto and OPM had fight scenes take place during the rain, and both took the time to slow the raindrops in comparison with the characters in motion. Those are only two examples I can think of, but I'm sure there are many more, if not as many as there are counter examples.
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These exemples are irrelevant, the characters don't seem to be faster than the rain because the writers don't care about logic
 
Do the Z-fighters currently move at speeds above lightspeed while fighting in DBS? Does the rain in question move while said Z-figters are fighting? If the answer to both of those is yes, than either the rain is also FTL, or the Z-fighters are not.
 
Is this serious or a troll thread? FTL characters moving slower than rain drops is purely for dramatic purposes, it doesn't mean the rain is FTL, and why would we make a profile about rain? It's not even a weapon.
 
The Everlasting said:
No, it just means the animators wanted to animate falling rain.
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Ok, by that logic, the animators wanted to animate beerus and whis getting from one part of the universe to the other in a short time frame, but this by no means makes them FTL because its just what the animators wanted to show...
 
That's a thing that happens that's relevant to the story. The rain falling isn't.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Is this serious or a troll thread? FTL characters moving slower than rain drops is purely for dramatic purposes, it doesn't mean the rain is FTL, and why would we make a profile about rain? It's not even a weapon.
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Its a thread meant to highlight discrepencies and inconsistencies in this websites manner of quantifying feats. If you selectly apply your rules even when all other things are equal (sans narrative or author intent) then nothing means anything.
 
Stop treating it as if the same rules apply to everything, case-by-case basis is a thing.
 
If x thing moves at y speed, and z thing also moves as fast, z and x are moving at similar speeds. Very simple logical extrapolation.
 
Not when it results in you not only saying that rai is MFTL+, but also trying to derive KE from it.
 
The Everlasting said:
Not when it results in you not only saying that rai is MFTL+, but also trying to derive KE from it.
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Because you dont like the results?
 
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