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There where some debates about conceptual creation recently and in order to keep those short, consistent and easy I would like to try to clearly write out exactly which criteria have to be fulfilled for a feat to be accepted as concept creation and than go strictly by that accepting all feats who do fulfil them and reject all who don't.
So essentially I want to write something like the criteria for determining lightspeed lasers on the light dodging page or some (if possible shorter) text like on the Absolute Zero page.
Afterwards I would then want to put that on the Conceptual Manipulation page and go strictly by that, which would make such debates much easier.
What is important for something like that is that the criteria are clearly formulated and things one can objectively tell whether they are given in the work of fiction or not.
As mentioned in my blog my current position on the subject is that Conceptual Manipulation can be granted exactly then, if there is a reliable statement that specifically the concept of something is created, which refers to concept in the sense used for conceptual manipulation (in other words not in the sense of a concept as a product of the (human) mind).
Now I know from threads that people disagree with this position of mine and I would hope that they could try to formulate an criteria that meets their understanding of in which cases concept creation should be given, which is as mentioned above clear and objective, so that we can debate the different suggestions for formulation.
For the sake of not digressing from the main discussion due to debating changes to characters and to keep this unbiased I would like to ask (as I do sometimes on threads regarding general decisions) to not use existing verses as examples or to ask how it would affect them in the thread, but to purely keep to theoretically formulated scenarios.
So essentially I want to write something like the criteria for determining lightspeed lasers on the light dodging page or some (if possible shorter) text like on the Absolute Zero page.
Afterwards I would then want to put that on the Conceptual Manipulation page and go strictly by that, which would make such debates much easier.
What is important for something like that is that the criteria are clearly formulated and things one can objectively tell whether they are given in the work of fiction or not.
As mentioned in my blog my current position on the subject is that Conceptual Manipulation can be granted exactly then, if there is a reliable statement that specifically the concept of something is created, which refers to concept in the sense used for conceptual manipulation (in other words not in the sense of a concept as a product of the (human) mind).
Now I know from threads that people disagree with this position of mine and I would hope that they could try to formulate an criteria that meets their understanding of in which cases concept creation should be given, which is as mentioned above clear and objective, so that we can debate the different suggestions for formulation.
For the sake of not digressing from the main discussion due to debating changes to characters and to keep this unbiased I would like to ask (as I do sometimes on threads regarding general decisions) to not use existing verses as examples or to ask how it would affect them in the thread, but to purely keep to theoretically formulated scenarios.
